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#1. Schrick Cams - from WNiaura@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:34:18 EST From: WNiaura@aol.com Subject: Schrick Cams Someone started a thread related to aftermarket cams several days ago. I'm considering cams for a '95 M3 this spring. I'm interested to hear the personal experiences that the members of this list have had. Items of particular interest include HFM and injector mods and effect of cams with different types of exhausts. Of course, dyno numbers are well appreciated. Bill Niaura '95 M3 '88 750il '86 Chevy Van '90 Honda CRX Si (SCCA ITA race-car)
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#2. Rebound/Bump vs entry/exit (was Shock life) - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:39:12 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Rebound/Bump vs entry/exit (was Shock life) Right. I used to be in A stock too. They kicked me out.. something to do with a turbo ;-). Anyway, getting back to another part of my question, how does changing the shock bump/compression Front and Rear affect roll balance during turn entry vs turn exit? Wow that's a lotta words.. Someone (Sean?) said that adjusting the front rebound or rear bump affects leaving a corner while the opposite settings affect entry. Given that the linear weight transfer is only a function of acceleration and not shock settings I don't see how it works. I'd think that adjusting the shocks in either bump or rebound would affect entry and exit. Anyone care to expound? -Matt --- Chris Teague <cteague@home.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 20:06:19 -0800 > From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock life > > Matt, > > I would think it would be better to adjust roll > stiffness with bars/springs, but I know in my case, > I run SCCA stock class rules for AutoX, and > they do not allow any spring changes, or a > rear sway bar change. So shock changes are > the next best thing to fit into the rules for me. > For others, shock changes may be a quick > at the track solution to dial the car in. > > That's my $0.02. > > Chris Teague > 97 M3/4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#3. RE:Sway bars. Anyone tried more than one brand? + more... - from Rob
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 21:55:56 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: RE:Sway bars. Anyone tried more than one brand? + more... Joe wrote "I'd recommend the Eibach instead of the RD. The RD bars are smaller, they were originally designed for the regular 3 series. The Eibach have bigger bars which suits the M3 better." Yes Joe I know the Eibach bars are bigger but I feel that even the RD's are large (stiff) enough to eliminate enough body roll. My current thought is that bars that are smaller than the RD's might be the way to go to keep some compliance in the suspension and help the ride/grip on single wheel bumps. Which brings me to my next question: On an M3 with stock suspension how much rougher is the ride with aftermarket bars? I know this is hard to qualify but if an H&R/Bilstein is 40% stiffer/rougher where would you rate the bars? Rob - still searching...
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#4. FS- 17" winter wheel & tire package - from Rob
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:04:55 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: FS- 17" winter wheel & tire package For sale: E36 M3 winter package consisting of four IWC Italy Quicksilver 17x7.5" wheels and four Pirelli Snowsport 225/45/17 tires. Perfect condition with less than 500 miles total! If seriously interested please e-mail for pic of the wheels. Can ship anywhere and can accept Visa or MC for payment. Regards, Rob
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#5. RE: [E36M3] E36M3 stock parts upgrade? - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:51:24 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36M3 stock parts upgrade? What about the E46 M3 rotors and calipers? Though I've heard that even though they are slotted, drilled and bigger there are mixed opinions if they are enough. I have a -96 european M3 four door with the floating rotors. I have brake problems every time I go to the track :-( I'm really desperate for an upgrade but don't have the money for a Movit kit... Probably puts me out of the price range of swapping original BMW parts too. BTW: I think I heard that the Z8 has fourpot calipers? /Magnus Thomé > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks [mailto:rob@shortshifter.com] > Sent: den 25 januari 2001 04:24 > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: [uuc] E36M3 stock parts upgrade? > > > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 22:20:16 -0500 > From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [uuc] E36M3 stock parts upgrade? > > Good question! > > Without taking any comparative measurements (bring your car > on over and > we'll lift your M3 and my M5), I would bet that the carrier > is the issue. > Rotor offset (and therefore caliper positioning) is the big > difference. The > 345mm '95 Euro M5 brakes (technically not the Nurburgring > package which is > just the suspension, the brakes were standard) use a > different carrier for > which no E36-compatible offset unit exists and the carrier > offset is "the > other way" - an adapter would not be possible. Even if the > offset were > close enough, the mounting holes would probably not line up > and an adapter > would be impossible. Due to the convolutions of the carrier, > it is a cast > part (machining would be very complex and expensive), and setting up a > casting is, once again, a costly proposition. You would > still need custom > rotor hats. > > Besides, as good as the '95 E34 M5 brakes are, they are very expensive > (close to $3K) and superior aftermarket brakes that fit the E36 are > available at a lower cost. > > - Rob > > > From: Michael Turgeon <turgeon1@yahoo.com> > >Subject: [uuc] E36M3 stock parts upgrade? > > Hi Gruppe! Has anyone investigated upgrading the brakes on the e36m3 > > using stock bmw parts? Specifically, I was thinking of the > e34m5 nurburgring > > package. Since the brakes on this car were lifted off the > e34m5 would the > > larger dual piston nurbrugring calipers and disc bolt right > up, or was a > > different knuckle or spindle used for that rare package? > Also, can the rears > > be upgraded to the 5401S rear brakes? > > Any ideas Rob L.? > >Mike Turgeon BMW CCA > > #166866 95 M3 Avus > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#6. Brake Upgrades - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:14:24 -0500 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Brake Upgrades I know E46 parts are a direct bolt on and I suspect the E46 M3's 325mm brakes will probably work here too. Still, they are only a single piston floating caliper setup. SD ================================== Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage - Tel 201-262-0412 *****Note- new email address is ultgar@earthlink.net *****
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#7. MK Motorsport chassie - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:08:08 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: MK Motorsport chassie Hi everybody! I'm relatively new to the list. I've been lurking for a couple of months :-) I live in Sweden and own a -96 four door M3. When I bought the car it already had a full chassie kit from MK Motorsport which I'm very impressed with. It contains modified Bilsteins all round, height adjustable coilovers in the front, afaik upgraded swaybars, MK Motorsport/Remus rear muffler and 18" MK Motorsport wheels with Pirelli PZero-C's (245's all around) Is there anybody more then me on the list with MK stuff on the car? I like the setup very much, it's very stiff in the front end but softer in the back end. The weakest spot is a tendency to be a little bit nervous in the back, tailhappy, in really really fast sweeping corners. That should be easily solved with some aerodynamics in the back. I really don't want a huge wing (I like my car's slightly discreet four door look ;-) but I guess that's the only way? Any suggestions on the best kit for good down force in the back end? Or any other ideas??? Thx!! /Magnus Thomé ___________________________________________________ Member of the Swedish BMW Sport Club. www.bmwsc.com
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#8. Premature Leather Wear & Lexol - from Gil
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:24:14 -0500 From: "Gil" <gpasswat@dmv.com> Subject: Premature Leather Wear & Lexol Bill, I too have the 98 M3/4 (Boston Green) with the light gray interior (hard to keep clean, but looks great). The car was 8 months old when I purchased it with 26000 miles, the steering wheel had cracks in the leather at the 12 O clock position. The dealer replaced the steering wheel complete (~$800.00) under warranty. The drivers seat had wearing at the area where you would slide across to enter. I however kind of place myself on the seat then turn in so as not to cause this. The dealer ordered a new seat hide and then proceeded to have the seat repaired instead under warranty, much to my dismay. Fast forward to now, the spot is back and they have ordered the seat hide again. I have informed them in no uncertain terms that I want it replaced this time! under warranty of course. The car is garage keep so the sun is not so much a factor now. The dealer overall has been very good (Tate BMW, Annapolis, MD). Gil, M3/4 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 12:33:49 EST From: WCRoswell@aol.com Subject: Premature Leather Wear Has anyone had premature leather wear? If so have you gotten any remedy from BMW? I have a 98 M3 4 door sedan 5-speed with 22,000 miles. The leather is spider cracking bad on the drivers seat and passenger (don't usually have passengers in the back) I hve cleaned and treated the leather with Lexol. Thanks, Bill the M Car Nut
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#9. Winterfest at Sebring - from Eric.C.Dotson@travelers.com
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:59:27 -0500 From: Eric.C.Dotson@travelers.com Subject: Winterfest at Sebring Anybody going tomorrow? I'll be there helping out at the Safety School at the Skip Barber facility. Look for the tall, goofy dude trying to help people learn to drive better. My car is a Cosmos '95 with MiM 5-spokes. Stop by and say hello. Eric 95 M3 00 Passat Wagon
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Shock Life - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 06:15:39 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Shock Life I'm going to have to respectfully disagree on this. Dampers can only affect the rate of suspension motions and body roll/pitch. Weight transfer is always directly controlled by those physical properties you mentioned. The only way to slow it down is to turn in slower. Newton didn't give us any time variable in F=MA except, of course that in the A. Dampers can affect the rate of body roll but, for the most part, body roll does not cause weight transfer, it's the other way around. I think that the solution keeps coming back to F/R relative roll stiffness. The dampers can control the dynamic roll stiffnesses and, hence, understeer vs. oversteer. -Matt --- WNiaura@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:30:02 EST > From: WNiaura@aol.com > Subject: Re: Shock Life > > Dampers do not affect the degree of weight transfer, > they affect the > rate of > transfer ... hence the damper's ability to be used > as a tuning aid for > transient (i.e. corner entry) maneuvers. Degree of > weight transfer > during > cornering is affected by the vehicle's weight, CG > height, track, and > cornering force (g's). > > Bill Niaura > '95 M3 > > << Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 10:44:00 -0800 (PST) > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock life > > I have a question.. what does shock valving have to > do > with weight transfer? >>> > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#11. Re: painting calipers - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:17:21 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: painting calipers on 1/24/01 23:44, DrDan976@aol.com wrote: > Take off calipers. > Sandblast the crap off. > Take them apart, piston and seals. > Powdercoat them red. > Reassemble. > Put calipers back on. I've noticed that some of the more recent BMWs seem to have plated brake calipers and support brackets. Anyone tried this, or considered it? Neil 96 M3