E36M3 #887

Monday, January 29, 2001 10:44:00

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#1. change subscription email address to midpoint@mindspring.com - from JTJedi@aol.com
#2. Dealer leather restoration... - from Juan Rico
#3. FS: SSR GT1 Wheels - from sgalaba@ix.netcom.com
#4. FS: SSR Integral Wheels - from sgalaba@ix.netcom.com
#5. Heel and toe - from Ed Tang
#6. E46 M3 looks - from Richard Sperry
#7. Heel and toe - from Dorffer, Rich
#8. Re: P-cars prepare to be destroyed! - from Neil Maller
#9. RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe - from Seth Thomas
#10. RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe - from MDadgar@handspring.com

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#1. change subscription email address to midpoint@mindspring.com - from JTJedi@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:36:16 EST From: JTJedi@aol.com Subject: change subscription email address to midpoint@mindspring.com

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#2. Dealer leather restoration... - from Juan Rico
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 13:39:20 -0800 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: Dealer leather restoration... I'm taking my car in Tuesday for some work. Long Beach BMW has a leather restoration service which runs $300 for both front seats. According to *them* the results are spectacular, although they do warn that it won't do anything for any major cracks in the leather. Anybody have any experience with this? Is it worth it? I know all about Leatherique, and Leathermaster, unfortunately, I just don't have the time, or the inclination for that matter, to follow that route and do it myself. All I know is that I have to do something about my seats! Thanks! Juan.

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#3. FS: SSR GT1 Wheels - from sgalaba@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:31:52 -0600 From: sgalaba@ix.netcom.com Subject: FS: SSR GT1 Wheels For Sale: SSR GT1 Wheels: (2)-17x8s (40mm offset) and (2)-17x9s (45mm offset) in excellent condition. Asking $325.00 per wheel plus shipping. Email to respond, TKS!

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#4. FS: SSR Integral Wheels - from sgalaba@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:33:14 -0600 From: sgalaba@ix.netcom.com Subject: FS: SSR Integral Wheels For Sale: SSR Integral Wheels: (2)-17x8s (40mm offset) and (2)-17x9s (45mm offset) in excellent to very good condition. Great track wheels. Mounted with Hoosier tires 225/45/17 and 245/40/17 with one weekend use on them. Asking $300.00 per wheel plus shipping. Email to respond, TKS!

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#5. Heel and toe - from Ed Tang
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 05:23:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Heel and toe Some people do that. It's all about what you are comfortable with. As long as you don't do it so awkwardly that you wrap the car around a pole. The most important thing is to get the timing right and do it smoothly. I'm still working on that. I'll nail it perfect maybe 60% of the time. The other 40 is when I don't rev it up quick enough and you get the little pull from the engine (not good)from being at a lower rpm. Good luck. Ed Still working on matching revs. --- "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> wrote: > humph! and i was trying it brake[heel] and blip[toe] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Tang" <etangf1@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:24 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Heel and toe > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:14:27 -0800 (PST) > > From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Heel and toe > > > > Hi Frank, > > > > First advice: > > Take the process slowly and gradually. It is > very > > awkward when you first do it. > > > > Let's say your barrelling down a straight in > fourth > > gear at 90 mph and the next corner requires a > third > > gear downshift and your speed going in should be > ~65 > > mph. Personally, while I'm on the straight I've > > already spotted my turn-in point and locating the > > apex. At your brake marker you begin braking and > > prepare for the downshift. So I'm hard on the > brakes > > and I'm already searching for my optimal track-out > > staring through the apex. Under braking (toe) I > would > > blip the throttle with my heel. You should have > slowed > > down enough to ~65-70 mph and you heel and toed to > > match revs b/w the input and output shafts. You > should > > already be in gear before the turn-in point. > Depending > > on the turn, I will still trail on the brakes to > pivot > > the car a bit and accelerate hard at the apex. You > > should be at your track-out point at this time and > > look for your next corner. > > > > On the street, you're just doing it at sane > speeds. > > Brake, depress clutch while blipping the throttle, > > gear it and accelerate out. > > > > It is very awkward at first so don't be alarmed. > Doing > > it patiently and slowly will reap huge rewards. > Nest > > thing you'll be doing is double clutching:-) > > > > Ed > > --- "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> wrote: > > > so in order to do that i guess i need to ask. > How do > > > i heel toe shift?haha > > > Thanks, > > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Ed Tang" <etangf1@yahoo.com> > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 2:24 PM > > > Subject: [E36M3] Heel and toe > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 11:14:22 -0800 (PST) > > > > From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> > > > > Subject: Heel and toe > > > > > > > > Frank wrote: > > > > > > > > "well, we're on the subject. Any sites that > have > > > good > > > > basic info on Heel > > > > toe > > > > techniques. > > > > thanks, > > > > Frank" > > > > > > > > In all the books on racing I've read there is > no > > > in > > > > depth coverage of heel and toe. It is 'basic > info' > > > so > > > > to say. I believe it is a technique that > requires > > > a > > > > lot more practice than theory. You just have > to > > > > develop that natural pattern into your > driving. > > > You'll > > > > have to keep working at it until the point > where > > > your > > > > transition into a corner is seemless. > > > > > > > > Ed Tang > > > > 95 Cosmos M3 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! 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#6. E46 M3 looks - from Richard Sperry
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 09:52:35 -0500 From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@home.com> Subject: E46 M3 looks The E30 M3 looked the way it did, not to differentiate it from the reg E30, but because it had to. The fender flairs and wing were added to make the car competitive when racing. the new E46 looks the way it does for the same reason. Racing has changed, to race an E46 look at what PTG has to do. If I had a new M3, I don't think I would care too much about how it looks. I would know, underline, know,( limitations of plain text) it was bad as hell. Rich 95 ///M3 Baltimore Home of the 2000 Super Bowl Champions, The Baltimore Ravens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#7. Heel and toe - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Heel and toe I have been practicing heel-and-toe on the street for a couple of years in my M3 (although my daily driver is an automatic but that is soon to change) but holding off still to apply it on the track, I would make one small recommendation to someone just starting, "it is better to error on the high side of the rpms when you blip the throttle than the low end." The low end will get you into more trouble than being on the high end. Best regards, Rich

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#8. Re: P-cars prepare to be destroyed! - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:24:06 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: P-cars prepare to be destroyed! on 1/28/01 18:43, "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> wrote: > Well, it's true! Beall Motorsports will be running a new (never turned a > wheel!) PTG E46 M3 with an M5 motor at Daytona. Would that be the "be all" to end all of M3s? Neil 96 M3

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:31:33 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe I don't think I follow what you are saying here. Why is it better to error on the high side. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com -----Original Message----- From: Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:24 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Heel and toe Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Heel and toe I have been practicing heel-and-toe on the street for a couple of years in my M3 (although my daily driver is an automatic but that is soon to change) but holding off still to apply it on the track, I would make one small recommendation to someone just starting, "it is better to error on the high side of the rpms when you blip the throttle than the low end." The low end will get you into more trouble than being on the high end. Best regards, Rich ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 08:43:15 -0800 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe Because if you err on the high side, you induce understeer in the corner (car jerks forward, center of gravity shifts backward, off the front tires). If you err on the slow side, the car jerks forward, you lighten the rear end and the car wants to spin. - Mark > ---------- > From: Seth Thomas > Reply To: Seth Thomas > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 7:33 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe > > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:31:33 -0500 > From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Heel and toe > > I don't think I follow what you are saying here. Why is it better to > error > on the high side. > > Seth Thomas > www.m3ltw.com > www.m3power.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:24 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Heel and toe > > > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 10:16:32 -0500 > From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> > Subject: Heel and toe > > I have been practicing heel-and-toe on the street for a couple of years in > my M3 (although my daily driver is an automatic but that is soon to > change) > but holding off still to apply it on the track, I would make one small > recommendation to someone just starting, "it is better to error on the > high > side of the rpms when you blip the throttle than the low end." The low > end > will get you into more trouble than being on the high end. > > Best regards, > > Rich > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >

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