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#1.Early E36 4 door - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:20:23 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: <LTB> Early E36 4 door My girlfriend is looking to unload the POS family Honda Civic w/ 93K miles and is thinking about a bimmer. Cost of ownership has to remain on the low side. Is it even advisable? For me, I spend $$$$ on whatever goodies, but her family isn't as fortunate. Should I advise her into looking into something more reliable like a Toyota? Anyway, I think she's looking to spend $5k on a used car for the family. I was thinking of an early E36 318i (how much more would it be for a 6 cyl car), slushbox (father doesn't know and probably doesn't want to be bothered with a manual), 4dr... Anyone have one for sale in the tri-state area? Thanks, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#2. Buying Forgelines - from dHoleman@spooze.com
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Date: 27 Feb 2001 14:22:13 -0800 From: dHoleman@spooze.com Subject: Buying Forgelines I have noticed a number of used Forgeline wheels come up for sale and wanted to throw in my two cents. First of all these are great wheels and I own two sets so I am not here to knock them. There are two very similar models that look very much the same but are actually quite different and you should be sure which model you are getting. The RS model has the valve stem inside rim behind the spokes. The RC model has the valve stem outside the spokes. The RC is the race model. It has a thinner hub but plenty of offset to clear large brake calipers. With the valve stem outside the spokes they do not interfere with the large brake calipers. The RS is more of a street model. Even though the offset is fine for large brake calipers the inside set valve stem will hit the caliper. You will not have a problem with the RS model if you are running the stock calipers (the ones that came with your car) but you will have trouble if you have the Movit Big Brake or other like brake kit. www.racepad.com www.racepad.com
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#3. Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:25:33 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! on 2/27/01 5:13 PM, "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> wrote: > DAMN COMPUTERS!!! I want a throttle cable. i'm perfectly capable of > deciding what amount of throttle i need thankyou. It's not the computers, but the idiots that program them! Neil 96 M3
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#4. New address for Leathermaster - from Skip Bogard
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:23:35 -0500 From: Skip Bogard <Skip.Bogard@ALUMni.DUKE.edu> Subject: New address for Leathermaster Somebody file this away 'cause one day I'm gonna ask if anyone has the address! Info & leather care story courtesy of Duane <burp> "RR" Collie. The "SunSafe" kit is a dye & cleaner prep, and probably the thing you need to fix slightly cracked leather (esp. light gray) right about now. It's the one hundreds of have used on their 95' 96' high mileage muscle machines. By now those L-M folks should have assigned names to the color mixes for our BMW's. Anybody know for sure? If not, a swatch can be obtained by removing your rear seat & going underneath. - Skip _______________ From: "Duane Collie" <drcollie@keepingroom.com> Subject: New address for Leathermaster For all of you looking for the Leathermaster web site, they have a new one and have moved their U.S. operations from S.C. to FL. Here's the web site address: http://www.stainsafe.com/ssafe/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=400 FYI, I had a Bradington Young ($$$$) leather sofa that had become sun-bleached from the skylights in my old house (Analine dyes don't tolerate UV rays well). Moved it into the new digs and it looked like crap. Beat-up, used up, ......shot. Wife sez: "That sofa has to go....maybe put it in the kid's rec room". I said, "I can fix it". Sent off a color swatch of the leather (small cutting from the underside) to the Leathermaster people and they mixed up the color and sent it back in a "sun safe kit" for $ 70.00. Yesterday I did the sofa with the kit (you MUST follow the directions exactly) and today when Mrs. Collie came downstairs she was shocked and quite pleased at how good it looked. In fact, it looked pretty damn close to the day it was new. These kits really work so long as the leather is not more than 50% bleached out, and it has not started dry-rotting or is heavily cracked to the point the hide is fractured. Stuff is not cheap, but then the good stuff usually isn't. -Duane Collie
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#5. > 4. damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Scott Yu
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:32:30 -0500 From: "Scott Yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: > 4. damn computers!!!!!!!!!! I wonder if this is an argument for or against the still-imaginary SMG tranny? As much as I love my 5-spd, a _true_ SMG that my gal could still drive around in 'A' mode would be such a wonderful thing... scott yu > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 12:26:11 -0800 > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > Subject: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! > > i just discovered two reasons NOT to buy an S4. (which is drive by wire) > and two things i'm gonna pay particular attention to when i test drive the > new M3 (also drive by wire, right?)
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#6. Re: [E36M3]Early E36 4 door - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:39:20 -0500 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <LTB> Early E36 4 door Why not just stick with a Honda, they're relatively cheap, very reliable and they're a ton of them all around. Go for an early to mid 1990's Accord. Just a thought, the Bimmer would be too costly in the long run IMHO. ~Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: [E36M3] <LTB> Early E36 4 door > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:20:23 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: <LTB> Early E36 4 door > > My girlfriend is looking to unload the POS family Honda Civic w/ 93K miles and > is thinking about a bimmer. Cost of ownership has to remain on the low side. > Is it even advisable? For me, I spend $$$$ on whatever goodies, but her family > isn't as fortunate. Should I advise her into looking into something more > reliable like a Toyota? > > Anyway, I think she's looking to spend $5k on a used car for the family. > > I was thinking of an early E36 318i (how much more would it be for a 6 cyl > car), slushbox (father doesn't know and probably doesn't want to be bothered > with a manual), 4dr... > > Anyone have one for sale in the tri-state area? > > Thanks, > Chester > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#7. Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Ron Katona
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:38:18 -0500 From: Ron Katona <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! Sean Hester wrote: > imagine my grief as i'm flying around an > offramp at the limit, start to develop a push, decide to lift ever so little > to get the front tires to hook up, only to have all power cut as if i'd > lifted all the way. GRUMBLE!!!!!!! is this computer trying to kill me? Remember the debut of the new Airbus at the Paris Air Show some years ago? This was the first all fly-by-wire commercial airliner. The pilot was going to do a slow pass down the runway in landing configuration then execute a go-round without touching down. Well, apparently his air-show routine didn't sit so well with the computers. The computer assumed that having the flaps and gear down and getting so close to the runway at such a slow speed meant that he _had_ to land. Pilot tried like hell to keep it flying, the computer tried like hell to land. End result? Mushroom cloud in the woods about 1/4 mile past the end of the runway. Airbus gave a little redesign to the software after that. Two lessons learned when trying to make machines think too much: intuitive acts for humans, when programmed into computers, become massively complex; and there only needs to be one bad line of code to really ruin your day. -- Ron Katona
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#8. Re: [E36M3]Early E36 4 door - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] <LTB> Early E36 4 door That's what I was thinking as well. I guess she wanted to do the, "my dad has worked so hard and sacrificed so much, I want him to enjoy driving a nice car." The strange thing is that her current Honda Civic (I think) is a '90 or '91 w/ 93K miles and it's falling apart. They'd bring it to a hack mechanic who would always nickle and dime them. Funny how they never thought of asking me to fix it....a Hayne manual would do, right? +) Chester --- "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:39:20 -0500 > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] <LTB> Early E36 4 door > > Why not just stick with a Honda, they're relatively cheap, very reliable and > they're a ton of them all around. Go for an early to mid 1990's Accord. > Just a thought, the Bimmer would be too costly in the long run IMHO. > ~Frank ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#9. Re: [E36M3] damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:52:46 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] damn computers!!!!!!!!!! Haven't you had the S4 for a while? Were these issues not immediately apparent when you drove it for the first week? I'm not a local on the S4 boards, but I figure this would have surfaced by now, no? Chester --- Sean Hester <seanh_race@hotmail.com> wrote: > i just discovered two reasons NOT to buy an S4. (which is drive by wire) > and two things i'm gonna pay particular attention to when i test drive the > new M3 (also drive by wire, right?) ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Sean Hester
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 14:55:26 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: damn computers!!!!!!!!!! > > DAMN COMPUTERS!!! I want a throttle cable. i'm perfectly capable of > > deciding what amount of throttle i need thankyou. > >It's not the computers, but the idiots that program them! but of there were no computers, the idiot programmers couldn't mess it up. now... i gotta get back to work (progamming computers ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#11. [E36M3] damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 17:59:24 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: [E36M3] damn computers!!!!!!!!!! >Well, I certainly don't like the sound of that. If I'm not mistaken, the M5 >is also "drive by wire." Maybe some of our list members who happen to have >new M5s sitting around can comment on this? >>From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> >> >>if the new M3 does this i'm gonna be pissed. does anyone know anything >>weather this is the case with the new M3? My brother has a new M5 (2001) and I did the M5 Driving Experience with him in Spartanburg a month and a half ago. The car exhibited none of the behavior that Sean describes and I did many heel and toe downshifts, and used left foot braking during the Autocross competition at the end of the school with no issues. Shane Kleinpeter Tarheel Chapter '96 M3 '88 535is This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
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#12. Re: [E36M3] > 4. damn computers!!!!!!!!!! - from Sean Hester
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:02:45 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] > 4. damn computers!!!!!!!!!! >I wonder if this is an argument for or against the still-imaginary SMG >tranny? >As much as I love my 5-spd, a _true_ SMG that my gal could still drive >around in 'A' mode would be such a wonderful thing... kinda. i know the "tiptronic" transmission isn't the same thing. but the computer overriding you idea is alreay in place. i test drove a tiptronic S4. in order to get a good feel for low end torque i put the car manual mode, put it in high gear, entered an offramp, and floored it. the car upshifted immediately and accelerated quickly. i screamed WTF to the salesman and he said. "when you floor it, the computer decides you must be in a panic situation (like about to get hit by a train) and shifts to the gear to give you the best acceleration." sigh. i guess noone ever floors an audi for fun. only when in a panic. good thing i got the manual transmission. ;-P _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com