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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 - from Andy Korczynski
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:25:17 -0600 From: "Andy Korczynski" <andy@casskor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 Ok so what is a clean 99 M3 really worth? I see dealers listing them for $40K here so I figured asking for $37k was reasonable. What about edmunds's TMV (true market value) which lists a 99 M3 at $37k?? Andy K. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Powell [mailto:jsp98m3@apexcone.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 11:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:11:42 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 How about the whackos who think that E30M3s are worth $15K+? "George M. Kofman" wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 11:08:20 -0600 > From: "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> > Subject: Re: price for a '95 M3 > > > I have almost the exact car. I'm selling it with my set of winter > > wheels/tires plus 2 extra street tires. I'm having a helluva time moving > > it at $24,500. My car is EXTRA clean. Talk about frustrating. > > Not trying to be a bummer, just warning you of what may be out there. > > Unfortunately, the prices of the '95 M3's are plummeting. Kbb had my car > at > > $27,800 when I first advertised it 3 months ago. Today Kbb has it at > > $25,200. > > About 2 weeks ago, while looking for my dream car - a Caterham deDion Super > 7, I saw a pic of what appeared to me a LTW (flag on fender, etc) in one of > the high-line car monthlies. The price was amazing ~25K asking for a > reasonably low-mi car (for a LTW being sold by a high-line east coast > dealer). when I called, I was told the car was sold. I asked a few more > questions, and discovered it was not a LTW but a regular white M3 with a > flag decal and a few options. Just for shits and giggles, I asked how much > it sold for. The DEALER got $22 or 22.5K for it. I asked him for pricing > on a few other cars, and he was on the money. This appears to be a legit > price, as I was recently quoted 25K on a TRADE-IN for my '97. > > FWIW, KBB doesn't sell cars. Auctions and dealers do... Check what the > dealers in your area are GETTING for these cars, and price accordingly. > Also, keep in mind that the economy is slowing down and the dealers are > eager to move their inventories. > > YMMV. > > GMK > '97 M3
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#2. computer memory saver for battery changing - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:45:40 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: computer memory saver for battery changing Group, Anyone ever use this 9volt computer memory saver on their M3 when pulling the battery out? I bought one at Pep Boys the other day but there is a sticker on it that reads, "CAUTION: Consult service manual before using this device on vehicles with air bags to avoid accential inflation". That sticker's got me worried. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:50:35 -0800 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 Jim wrote: > How about the whackos who think that E30M3s are worth $15K+? > They are worth $15K+. If that's what you can get for one. Capitalism rules. - Mark '95 M3 '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, Hennarot, worth whatever I can sell it for ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Visor (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc Check out Visor at www.handspring.com!
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#4. Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? - from Steve
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:44:21 -0800 From: Steve <sgrigory@pacbell.net> Subject: Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? I'm ordering track tires today- for open track events, not autocrossing. I prefer the Kuhmo's based on cost and my understanding that they last a bit longer than the Hoosiers do and may have a nicer breakaway feeling when they let go as compared to the Hoosiers. My understanding of the Hoosier is that it is a faster tire but is a bit edgy near its limit. I'm curious what people who have run one or the other think. Size for both is 225/45-17 on an 8-inch IFG on a 95 M3 with Dinan Stage III suspension. You'll note I didn't list BFG R1's. It seems pretty much no one likes them! Thanks, steve
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: EBC Math - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:57:50 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: EBC Math well... um... i always leave 1% open so someone doesn't say "what about XXXXX, you didn't leave any room for that". i hadn't really tried to fill the last percent. but i have to... ;-) i'd say the next biggest factor is braking technique. there is a right and wrong way to do it. books could be written about it, but the executive summary is "firm and for a short time". (as opposed to braking medium for a longer time). i'd actually probably give that 6%. leaving how fast you go at only 70% >From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] Re: EBC Math >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 09:43:48 -0600 > >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:34:26 -0500 >From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> >Subject: Re: EBC Math > >Um, Sean? What's the other 1%? :) > >-Paul > > > From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: was EBC Red Stuff, > > > > this is 75% due to driving style. or driving speed to be more direct. > > > > it's also 24% due to the track and weather. the two tracks close to me >(SIR _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a spare original shifter - from Wen Liew
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 18:09:17 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a spare original shifter For several months, I couldn't even give it away for free. So, I put it on Ebay and it got bidded up to over $40. Go figure! >Since upgrading to a short shifter seems to be one of the most common >upgrades, I imagine that there are many people with original shifters >lying around collecting dust. A friend of mine is looking for one. If >you happen to have one that you're willing to part with, please send me >email privately. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: Lug stud conversion ? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:14:06 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Lug stud conversion ? on 2/1/01 12:33 PM, "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> wrote: > Has anyone done this ? I see huge benefits (EZ tire changes), but any > drawbacks (extra weight, etc) ? > if you've done this, where did you obtain the parts ? I converted to wheel studs last year. Here's how you can learn from my mistakes... I got a kit from Tire Rack, although it turns out TC Kline has the same one. Cost was $3.50 per stud and $3.50 per nut, so that's $140 minimum, plus however many spares you might care to buy. Pro: - Easier to mount wheels (especially if you use wheel spacers) - Nice plated studs - Lightweight nuts in standard 17mm size - Nuts have closed ends, and are black Con: - Nuts are aluminum, a totally unsuitable material for the purpose - Must use 6 pt socket to avoid rounding nuts - Care needed when using impact tools - Installation/removal soon damages black finish - Nuts are extra long, won't fit under centre covers on some wheels. I soon decided that the aluminum nuts were an expensive mistake. Will Turner also sells studs and nuts, so I bought a replacement set of nuts from him ($2.60 each). These are normal open-ended lug nuts, plated steel with open ends. Their disadvantage is that they take a 19mm socket. A typical impact socket in that size may be difficult to fit in some wheels, and of course the toolkit lug wrench won't fit now. Either use a standard socket or a thin wall impact. The open end TMS nuts don't look quite as nice as the black aluminum nuts, but they're infinitely more functional. I'm glad I made the stud conversion, wish I'd done it right to start with. The ideal would be steel nuts but in a 17mm size. Neil 96 M3 - studly...
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 - from George M. Kofman
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:19:43 -0600 From: "George M. Kofman" <sdg2@execpc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 > How about the whackos who think that E30M3s are worth $15K+? > JP; not to start a flame war here, but you cannot compare an E30M3 to an E36M3. I seriously (yet briefly) considered spending 10-12K for an E30 M3 track car. And yes, you can get an E30M3 for 8K and spend another 8-10 making it "right." There are just so many E36M3s out there that well, for a lack of a better word, it is treated as a regular (yet spirited and infinitely fun) car. In a free market economy, it's all supply and demand. more supply than demand, price goes down. less supply than demand, well then pay 15K for a nice 12 yr old car. YMMV. As far as I am concerned, matter closed. GMK '97 M3
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? - from Rich Gay
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:15:17 -0600 From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? on 2/1/01 11:53 AM, Steve at sgrigory@pacbell.net wrote: > I'm ordering track tires today- for open track events, not autocrossing. > > I prefer the Kuhmo's based on cost and my understanding that they last a bit > longer than the Hoosiers do and may have a nicer breakaway feeling when they > let go as compared to the Hoosiers. My understanding of the Hoosier is that > it is a faster tire but is a bit edgy near its limit. > > I'm curious what people who have run one or the other think. I've run both on my 95 M3. The Hoosier is absolutely faster. The Kuhmo's may have had better longevity in previous years, but my experience last year is they suck. Possibly even not as good as the Hoosier. They are still cheaper than the Hoosier. I consistently was getting less than four track days on the Kuhmo's. I could get up to six on the Hoosiers. > Size for both is 225/45-17 on an 8-inch IFG on a 95 M3 with Dinan Stage III > suspension. My setup is 245/45-17 for the Kuhmo, 245/40-17 for the Hoosier, on 8.5" width rims. Suspension is H&R springs, Koni's, UUC swaybars, Dinan fixed-camber plates. > You'll note I didn't list BFG R1's. It seems pretty much no one likes them! I don't think BFG is manufacturing them anymore. - Rich
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:20:40 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or Hoosier? >I'm ordering track tires today- for open track events, not autocrossing. > >I prefer the Kuhmo's based on cost and my understanding that they last a >bit >longer than the Hoosiers do and may have a nicer breakaway feeling when >they >let go as compared to the Hoosiers. My understanding of the Hoosier is that >it is a faster tire but is a bit edgy near its limit. > >I'm curious what people who have run one or the other think. your understanding is correct. hoosiers are not as friendly, but will allow you to go faster. unless you're in competition i think khumos would be the better way to go. the other "bummer" about hoosiers for track schools (as opposed to racing) is that besides not lasting very long, they are very fragile. one sharp rock, or nail, or piece of glass and they'll be ruined. for racing, i can live with the risk, for schools i don't think it's worth it. >You'll note I didn't list BFG R1's. It seems pretty much no one likes them! woo hoo! good answer! just don't do it! (actually they are a similar answer to hoosiers. they are pretty fast, but annoying as hell, hard to set up, etc... for racing it might be worth it, for fun and schools, they're definetly NOT!) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com