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#1. M3 Rear Speakers - from Roman
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:25:18 -0800 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: M3 Rear Speakers Greetings All, I know that many people hear enjoy the beautiful music of their M3's engine above 5k rpm but being mostly a city driver one, of my speakers left to a better place a couple of days ago. I have the upgraded HK stereo. I was told by a fellow that the stock M3 speaker is probably 4" and has a built in amplifier on it. I would like to replace both rear speakers with high quality speakers that will fit in the stock space without any modifications. Any recomendations? Is there really an amp on each speaker on the HK stereo system? Thanks in advance, Roman S. 96 ///M3
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:34:45 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: price for a '95 M3 Here is what I found out when I was looking for me an E30 M3. First off, lets look at the number of cars out there for sale. If you do a nationwide search on www.autotrader.com you will come up with 20 individual E30s (one is listed 4 times) and 455 E36 M3s for sale. Remember this is just on AutoTrader.com and is a nationwide search. Seems like the supply of E36 M3s is a little bit more than E30s. So that makes it a lot easier to find an E36 in your area. Most of the E30s that are worthwhile to buy will not be in your area. Now lets look at the condition of the cars for sale. The several cheaper E30 M3s in the price range of $6500-$9000 that I looked at nice cars in the pictures, had good records but under close inspection needed mechanical work. They would make a great car to drive once you got all the mechanicals worked out. But to get the cars running like I would want, it would take about $3000. A couple of them had bad repair jobs done to them. Then I looked at the ones that were in the $11K-$20K range. Here you find M3s with nothing wrong with them, are in top condition mechanically and cosmetically, and you can drive them home and not have to work on them. My thoughts on the prices for an E30 is that the good ones are priced about right. These cars are very expensive to maintain, are pretty rare, and are very expensive to repair if broken. I feel their price reflects this. If you want a cheap one then buy one and fix it up. By the time you get it to the same condition of an expensive one, you will have about the same amount of money in the car. These are just my thoughts on this topic. I might be a little prejudiced since I did buy an expensive one and I think it was worth every penny. At least mine does have an E36 motor in it ;) Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com
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#3. Regarding Dutch Woman for Sale/Trade - from Roman
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 12:30:48 -0800 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: Regarding Dutch Woman for Sale/Trade Hiya Gang, I was reading an email from Jim me thinks, when I accidentally hit the deleted button (probably out of shock). Is he trading/sell a Dutch woman? Jim, how many miles she got? How are the tires? Any modifications like high intensity head lights? :p :) I love this group!!! Roman S. 96 ///M3
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or AO32R's? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:33:54 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track tires- Kuhmo's or AO32R's? >OK, while this track tire thread is still open and before it goes on too >far, I wanted to get some opinions about the Kumho's compared to the >Yoko-Ono AO32R's. I'm moving into 255/40/17's (hopefully) this season >after >having run through two sets of 235/40/17 AO32R's. Previously, without my >fenders rolled or the correct spacers (I now have both), I never considered >the Kumho's. I absolutely loved the AO32R's for driving schools and open >track days. Not very grippy, only slightly better than MXX3's or BFG KD >street tires, but they lasted forever, were incredibly durable and >resistant >to damage, gave progressive feel all the way to the limit and talked to you >a bit right at the edge. All-in-all, I think a great tire for everything >but racing. I've been told that the Kumho's offer much of the same but are >a little grippier (more like a real R-compound) and therefore don't last >quite as well as the Yok's. Any first-hand experience with both? your impressions are correct as well. A032Rs aren't quite as grippy, but last longer then khumos. they also come in the correct size (235/40 17). A032Rs are my favorite track tire for e36 M3s. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#5. new Kumho question - from vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 15:37:57 -0500 From: vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com Subject: new Kumho question I used 2 complete sets (8 tires) of Kumho track tires on my 99 M3 last year, rotated them religiously and ended up with the same situation. The tires develop a line across them much like where the rubber would be seemed together. This happens way before they are corded. I have been told that Kumhos do this and they are not shot they can still be used until they cord. I was also told that they will not rip apart at this spot. I'd hate to lose a tire on the back straight or in a turn. Anyone else have this happen or am I just doing something wrong? Please let me know. Vince 99 M3 89 M3 *******************Internet Email Confidentiality Footer******************* Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Street brake pads - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:45:50 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Street brake pads Well, I can't exactly argue with that. That list has gone to crap and I'm lucky if I can 5 posts a week that are worth reading. However, for people to be warping rotors with regular street driving *and* to have EBC stop recommending that particular pad for the E36M3 application, that's enough for me to never waste the time/money trying them (on my Razor Scooter... Hi Jim!) ;) Jonathan L. >From: Jim Bassett > >Pffftt! The people on bimmer.org complain about *everything*, justified or >not. > >Not exactly a representative sample of the enthusiast community, IMO. > >Cheers, >Jim Bassett >1998 M3/4 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Street brake pads - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:48:32 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Street brake pads Well, I can't argue with that. That list has really gone to crap. I'm lucky if I can find 5 posts a week that are worth reading. However, if people are warping rotors with those pads on the street *and* EBC is no longer recommending them for E36M3 applications, that's enough for me to never bother wasting the time/money trying them (on my Razor Scooter... Hi Jim!) ;) Jonathan >From: Jim Bassett > >Pffftt! The people on bimmer.org complain about *everything*, justified or >not. > >Not exactly a representative sample of the enthusiast community, IMO. > >Cheers, >Jim Bassett >1998 M3/4 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#8.Rear Shock Mounts - from Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 16:08:18 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: <E30/E36/E46> Rear Shock Mounts for those interested, it would appear that BMW improved their rear shock mounts *AGAIN*. the new one, found on all E46 convertibles (not surprisingly) as well as the E46 M3 (only non-convertible that is factory equipped with this mount) seems even more beefy than it's predecessors. it's still produced by Boge and appears to be much more sturdy than previous versions. my quick analysis of the rubber material on this rubber shows the following: E46 mount: 56-58 Shore A Hardness to give you perspective on this hardness, i also measured a JTD "blue" bushing for their rear shock mount and it measured to a 62 Shore A Hardness. it uses a metal "post" similar to the one bonded into the Boge made BMW E46 rear mount. i did not have the "black" bushing to measure. although different in design execution, the Ground Control "bushings" were measured at a 90 Shore A Hardness. however, since these mounts do not have a central "post" going through the bushing, thier bushing needs to be much more stiff to do it's job. anyhow, the part number for this mount is 33-52-6-754-096 and lists for only $18.40 retail. for those interested in what the new mount looks like, here's a link: http://www.benliaw.com/bmw/m3gt/rear_shock_mount_lg.jpg not a bad upgrade for those that need to replace them. while you're at it, get the Z3 reinforcement plate (BMW # 51 71 8 413 359) to get a more secure mounting to the shock tower body. if you have a rear strut tower brace, this is not necessary as most aftermarket rear strut tower braces already incorprate a similar plate to mount the bar. good luck. ben liaw
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#9. Re: [E36M3] new Kumho question - from Rich Gay
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 15:15:29 -0600 From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] new Kumho question on 2/1/01 3:03 PM, vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com at vincent.a.leo@us.arthurandersen.com wrote: > I used 2 complete sets (8 tires) of Kumho track tires on my 99 M3 last year, > rotated them religiously and ended up with the same situation. The tires > develop a line across them much like where the rubber would be seemed > together. > This happens way before they are corded. I have been told that Kumhos do this > and they are not shot they can still be used until they cord. I was also > told > that they will not rip apart at this spot. I'd hate to lose a tire on the > back > straight or in a turn. > > Anyone else have this happen or am I just doing something wrong? Please let > me > know. I've experienced the same thing, was told the same thing, and continued to use them down to the cords, no problems. - Rich
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#10. Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 16:24:56 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? on 2/1/01 3:33 PM, Vern Anderson <VAnderson@IVW.com> wrote: > OK, while this track tire thread is still open and before it goes on too > far, I wanted to get some opinions about the Kumho's compared to the > Yoko-Ono AO32R's. I've used up several sets of Yokos, one set of Kumhos. Although slightly cheaper to buy, the Kumhos are significantly more costly to run. This is because they have a 25-40% shorter life, depending on how good you are at tire wear management. You'll need to rotate tires more often than the Yokos, but they both benefit from flipping on the rim around half life. You also need to run plenty of negative camber to prevent premature outside edge wear with the Kumhos. My 2.5 degrees at the front wasn't really enough. The Kumhos grip a little bit better than the Yokos, and are almost as benign to drive. They do lose grip if overheated, and need a good rest to recover - not just a couple of slow laps. An aggravating factor for me was that I had to run the smaller 225/45 size Kumho, due to the lack of a 235/40 or 245/40. The Yokos come in 235/40. If you're going to try the 255, you may have a better experience. As long as you can shoehorn them into the wheel wells! Lastly, the Kumhos have only vestigial tread, which disappears almost immediately. That makes them problematical to drive any distance to and from the track, not to mention any issues of lapping in the rain. Neil 96 M3