E36M3 #905

Friday, February 02, 2001 14:33:50

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Changing Brake Light Switch - from MDadgar@handspring.com
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? - from Sean Hester
#3. RE: [E36M3] the perennial track pad thread! - from Sean Hester
#4. Re: [E36M3] OBC problem - from Sean Hester
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? - from Peter H Reinhart
#6. Re: Rubber bushings? - from Neil Maller
#7. Looking for a stock airbox for E36 M3. - from Mark Radelow
#8. Re: Gauges for M3 - from Neil Maller
#9. Dealer leather restoration results... - from Juan Rico
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? - from Bora Akyol

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Changing Brake Light Switch - from MDadgar@handspring.com
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:40:56 -0600 From: MDadgar@handspring.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Changing Brake Light Switch Jay wrote: > Anyone know how to do this? I heard it's near the brake pedal. > I just did this last weekend. It's a major PITA to get to, but an easy enough job if you note the catches listed below. I did most of the work lying on my back with my head stuck under the dash. Bleahh. Before you go buy the part, make sure you look at the part that's on the car already. Turns out there are two styles of brake light switch - 2 wire and 4 wire. Ask me how I know. Anyway: 1) remove the cowling under the driver's side dash. There are 3 screws holding it on, 2 on the lower dash face and one under the dash on the right. 2) Swing the heating duct up and out of the way (it will pop and swivel up out of the way) 3) locate the brake light switch. It's NOT the white one - that's the clutch switch (if you do not have Cruise Control, you may not have this one). Pull the connector off of it. 4) IMPORTANT: the plunger on the new switch must be FULLY EXTENDED, as must the red sleeve around it. If the plunger/sleeve is a half-inch or so long, it's been depressed. Pull it out all the way (it will ratchet and sound like it's breaking, but it's not). The switch will NOT go into the holding bracket if the plunger AND THE SLEEVE are not extended fully. Ask me how I know. 5) Remove the old switch. Don't worry about breaking the holding tabs - you won't be using it again anyway. 6) Orient the new switch correctly (there's a guide tab in the upper-left hand corner, looking at it from behind) and push it into the holder. 7) Connect the cable. 8) Re-orient the heating duct 9) Re-install the cowling. - Mark '95 M3 '97 528i 5-spd '88 M3, Hennarot ---- Mark Dadgar - Product Manager, Visor (650) 230-5037 voice - (650) 230-2100 fax mdadgar@handspring.com - Handspring, Inc Check out Visor at www.handspring.com!

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:49:58 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? >ON the old R1's the line at the seam was called "the groove of doom". It >looks identical to the one that forms on the Kumho's. And you still drive >it, eh? I haven't been so bold. I've been very disappointed with the >Kunho's, since the ones without the groove wear as fast as Hoosiers, and >mine developed chunking and cracking that I've not seen on other track >tires. Also not as solid and predictable as original R1's or current day >Hoosiers. YMMV. But they are cheaper. ahhh... old R1s... the sweet memories. there used to be no discussion about which tires to get for track schools. BFG R1s were the answer. for everyone. for every skill level. for every size. for every season. for every budget. they lasted forever, they were very predictible, they gripped great, they were cheap, they were setup for stock (not very much) camber. it was great. then BFG stopped making them. ;-( _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#3. RE: [E36M3] the perennial track pad thread! - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 10:58:18 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] the perennial track pad thread! >I've used the PF90s, and they are awesome track pads. However, the lack of >clips on the inboard pads makes them rattle. Around the track, with >everyone's brakes squealing and rattling, it doesn't really matter. But, >if >you need to do any off-track driving with these pads, you may find yourself >avoiding people's glances as they look at your car and wonder when you're >going to fix your crappy brakes! ;-) fix your crappy brakes? 99% of the people who stare at my rattling car when i'm driving around town with pf-90s have no idea that it's the brakes that are rattling. they just think my car is about to fall apart. (maybe if they're brighter then most they notice that the noise is coming from the sheel area and think the wheels are falling off) >I believe that the R4 pads have clips on the inboard pads. I'm going to >give them a try when my PF90s are worn. So far, the PF90s have withstood >five track days at Summit Point (three on the main track, two on the >Jefferson circuit), and there's plenty of pad left. R4 pads come with clips if you ask for them. when you call porterfield make sure to tell them you want clips. and... if you're infinetly rich... porterfield told me they would make sets of pf-90s with clips for me. it was gonna increase the cost about 50%. (somethine about needing a different backing plate) this would make them cost about double what R4 pads cost, since pf-90s are more expensive already, so i didn't take them up on the offer. but they assured me they could do it if i ever wanted. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] OBC problem - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 11:00:03 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OBC problem >My OBC is indicating "Brake Light Circuit" but only intermittently. I >checked the fuses -- they are OK. AND even when the OBC says this, the >brake lights a working just fine. > >Any ideas about what could be the problem? I want some direction before I >take the car in to be fixed. you need a new "brake light circuit". (i'm not being sarcastic) it's a little part that fails on about 80% of M3s at one point or another. if you're handy you can install it yourself, but it's a pain. if you're lazy like me you'll pay the dealer $50 to install it for you. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? - from Peter H Reinhart
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:18:17 -0500 From: Peter H Reinhart <reinhart@neuro.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Track tires- Kumho's or AO32Rs? At 12:53 PM 2/2/01 -0600, Sean wrote: >ahhh... old R1s... the sweet memories. > >there used to be no discussion about which tires to get for track schools. >BFG R1s were the answer. for everyone. for every skill level. for every size. for every season. for every budget. > >they lasted forever, they were very predictible, they gripped great, they were cheap, they were setup for stock (not very much) >camber. it was great. After cording my Kumho's at a recent Time Trial I was lucky enough to have a friend let me borrow is 50% used 'old' R1s (carefully hoarded). So I was able to compare the Kumho's and the old R1's on the same track same day same car and driver. The upshot: I'd call it dead even. In terms of lap times they were too close to call. The handling on both felt great, although the Kumho's are more 'comfortable' at the limit. The R1s do a little grip-slide-grip dance where the Kumho's just start to slide smoothly. If both tires were available today I'd probably still go for the Kumho's. Since they're not, it's a moot point other than to say, if you liked the old R1s, chances are you'll like the Kumho's. Just put an extra few lbs of air in the fronts..... Cheers, Peter Reinhart http://www.neuro.duke.edu/phr/m3.html

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#6. Re: Rubber bushings? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:20:12 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Rubber bushings? on 2/2/01 12:13 PM, "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone still have those part numbers (and prices)? More important, what > is the effect on performance if you have the larger bars, yet use rubber > bushings instead of poly.? Jonathan, You don't say which swaybars you have. Assuming they're RD, then the rubber bushing from the 850Csi is the same 27mm size. P/N is 31 35 2 227 365 I don't know for a fact that their outside contour fits the M3 mounting bracket, but since they're rubber it should be close enough. I have a set on order, so will know next week. The next size down I've found in the BMW parts bin is 25mm, from the E34 M5. P/N is 31 35 2 226 334 Neil 96 M3

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#7. Looking for a stock airbox for E36 M3. - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 19:29:25 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Looking for a stock airbox for E36 M3. I am looking for a stock airbox for a 95 M3. I believe all the 3 series 6-cylinder airboxs will work. Thanks guys!!! Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#8. Re: Gauges for M3 - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:32:26 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Gauges for M3 on 2/2/01 10:04 AM, "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > My advice would be to get lots of the compression washers used to seal the > sending units. I went through a bunch getting the oil idiot light sender to > stop leaking. Luckily Honda uses the same size compression washers if you > can't get to a BMW dealer easily. Although the VDO instructions tell you not to, I used Teflon pipe tape to help seal the sender threads. If you just put a single wrap on them it'll seal well, but the threads will cut through the tape to make the needed ground connection. I bought the kit from BMP and had to make my own wiring harness. It took an eternity to round up all the parts and get it just right. However much Jamie Harris at Eastern Motorwerks <www.easternmotorwerks.com> charges for his pre-made harness, it's worth it. Unfortunately it wasn't available when I installed my gauges 3 years ago. I bet they supply the correct 80 psi oil pressure gauge too, instead of the 150 psi from BMP which I had to replace. Neil 96 M3

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#9. Dealer leather restoration results... - from Juan Rico
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 11:36:02 -0800 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: Dealer leather restoration results... To those who expressed some interest in the results, if I haven't gotten back to you individually already, here goes. A little background: I have the gray leather Darth Vader seats, car has 110K miles, I use my car as a daily driver, as a grocery getter, and for any other possible chore I can come up with as an excuse to drive it, and last but not least, to go to surfing almost every day (that means plenty of sand and salt water...) This should give you an idea of what the front seats looked like and their condition. Well, the results are indeed dramatic. DRAMATIC! The driver's seat, still has some visible cracks, but it really has that "new" look to it. It's like night and day. I imagine that in cars with no major cracks, your seats will look brand spanking new. In my case it was well worth the money. If you're in LA and want to take a look, you're more than welcome. Just drop me a line. Juan.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 12:32:50 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? This is a message from Jim with two more sizes: I bought the 25.5 mm ones for my car and by the looks of it, the fit will be good. I am putting them in this weekend, so I will report on the results. I feel that the rubber may be gentler on the mounts too. Bora > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <nabli@attglobal.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 4:24 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Rubber Anti-sway Bar Bushings, where to buy. > > > Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 19:24:56 -0500 > > From: nabli@attglobal.net > > Subject: Rubber Anti-sway Bar Bushings, where to buy. > > > > Bora, > > > > Use the regular BMW rubber bushings. > > > > For the Eibach front bars (the 26.000 mm one's) use part # 31 35 1 140 > 188. > > These have a 26.0000 mm inside diameter. > > > > For the UUC front bars (the 25.400 mm (i.e., 1 inch)) use part # 31 35 1 > 090 > > 268. These have a 25.5 mm inside diameter. > > > > I could not find rubber bushings to match the Eibach (24.000 mm) rear bars > nor > > the UUC (23.812 mm) rear bars. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Maller" <neil.maller@gte.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? > Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:20:12 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Rubber bushings? > > on 2/2/01 12:13 PM, "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Does anyone still have those part numbers (and prices)? More important, what > > is the effect on performance if you have the larger bars, yet use rubber > > bushings instead of poly.? > > Jonathan, > > You don't say which swaybars you have. Assuming they're RD, then the rubber > bushing from the 850Csi is the same 27mm size. > P/N is 31 35 2 227 365 > > I don't know for a fact that their outside contour fits the M3 mounting > bracket, but since they're rubber it should be close enough. I have a set on > order, so will know next week. > > The next size down I've found in the BMW parts bin is 25mm, from the E34 M5. > P/N is 31 35 2 226 334 > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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