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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 17:24:37 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? Stoopid question.. Can we use the bigger bars from other BMW's on our M3's? -Matt > > The outside contour will fit perfectly since they > use the same stabilizer support - > i.e., the part that the bushing goes into. > > In fact, that same support is used on E36, E34, E32, > E31, E28 M5, E24 635 csi, and > all the Z3s. > > Cheers, > Jim E. __________________________________________________ Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#2. Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:50:46 -0500 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA I've been looking at the local and the driving schools being offered = for the upcoming season. Why is it that every BMW CCA event is $30-50 more than the PCA events per weekend at the same track? I know that a majority of the instructors are the same for both schools. Are the PCA events subsidized somehow? =20 Jeremy Lucas Delaware, OH 1995
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#3. Timing Chain Tensioner replacement cost... - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 03:27:24 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Timing Chain Tensioner replacement cost... To those of you with M50 engines that have had the timing chain tensioners replaced...What does it cost? Thanks! Mark _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 19:36:52 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA NASA driving schools are cheaper than both and some tracks like Thunderhill have their own driving schools that are cheaper than NASA ones. On the other hand, I did hear that BMWCCA schools are much more strict and maybe all the organization etc takes more money. Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: [E36M3] Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA > Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 21:50:46 -0500 > From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> > Subject: Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA > > > I've been looking at the local and the driving schools being offered = > for > the upcoming season. Why is it that every BMW CCA event is $30-50 more > than the PCA events per weekend at the same track? I know that a > majority of the instructors are the same for both schools. Are the PCA > events subsidized somehow? > =20 > Jeremy Lucas > Delaware, OH > 1995 > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#5. rotor replacement - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2001 23:19:35 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: rotor replacement Im thinking of replacing my stock front rotors....Ive done pads before, so I'm comfortable with that, but never rotors....How would your rate the relative difficulty or gotchas attendant with rotor vs pad replacment? I'm thinking of possible problems like not having enough room behind the rotors to torque the calipur bracket bolts sufficiently, and things like that. I'll be doing this in my condo garage on jack stands. thanks. _____________________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <25000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:36:02 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving Schools - BMWCCA vs PCA > > I've been looking at the local and the driving schools being offered = > > for > > the upcoming season. Why is it that every BMW CCA event is $30-50 more > > than the PCA events per weekend at the same track? I know that a > > majority of the instructors are the same for both schools. Are the PCA > > events subsidized somehow? > >NASA driving schools are cheaper than both and some tracks like Thunderhill >have their own driving schools that are cheaper than NASA ones. > >On the other hand, I did hear that BMWCCA schools are much more strict and >maybe all the organization etc takes more money. there's lots of things that effect the prices. - how much the organization pays for insurance. - weather the organization exepects to "profit" from putting on a school, or weather they expect it to be a "loss". (they consider it an event, like a picnic, that the club dues help pay for) - different weekends can cost different amounts to rent the track. and sometimes different organizations pay different amounts (depending on how many times they rent) - how much they need to pay instructors, or if they can get enough free volunteers. - how much they need to pay corner workers, or if they can get enough free volunteers. - if they are providing meals, and how good they are. - if they're providing t-shirts and how good they are. here's the cynical way to think about it... i calculated the "cost" for tracking my M3. (tires, brakes, rotors, gas, wear and tear, etc...) my calculations showed that it cost me almost $500 per DAY. (yes i mean $1000 for a weekend). this was based on all my expenses for 2.5 years, divided by the number of events i did in those 2.5 years. so... in light of that... who cares if the entrance fee is $30 more or less? ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] rotor replacement - from Sean Hester
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:43:57 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] rotor replacement >Im thinking of replacing my stock front rotors....Ive done pads before, so >I'm comfortable with that, but never rotors....How would your rate the >relative difficulty or gotchas attendant with rotor vs pad replacment? I'm >thinking of possible problems like not having enough room behind the rotors >to torque the calipur bracket bolts sufficiently, and things like that. >I'll be doing this in my condo garage on jack stands. thanks. first off... you gotta remember that i'm lazy and hate being a mechanic... but... i'd say rotors make the job 3 times harder and longer. it's simple on paper (only three more bolts) but execution is a different story. those bolts you talk about ARE a pain to deal with. you have to turn the wheel lock to lock to get at them. and you need to have a breaker bar (or a torque gun like lazy me) to get them out. it also pays to have a rubber mallet on hand as well. about 60% of the time, the rotor is fused to the hub, from all the heat. so even after you remove all the bolts you have to "encourage" the rotor to come off. of course you don't want to bang on the bearings too hard, and of course you don't want the rotor dropping on your toe once you "encourage" it enough. ;-) P.S. the bolts that holds the carrier are 16mm. NOT 17mm like the lug nuts. you'd be surprised the mess you make of things, when you use a 17mm socket with a turque gun to remove the bolts, like i did the first time. ;-( P.P.S. the allen wrench size for the rotor set screw is also different then the one you need for doing the pads. i don't remember the size, but it's smaller... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] rotor replacement - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:28:14 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] rotor replacement Re: >Im thinking of replacing my stock front rotors....Ive done pads before, so >I'm comfortable with that, but never rotors....How would your rate the >relative difficulty or gotchas attendant with rotor vs pad replacment? I'm >thinking of possible problems like not having enough room behind the rotors >to torque the calipur bracket bolts sufficiently, and things like that. >I'll be doing this in my condo garage on jack stands. thanks. The hard parts and gotchas are: 1) Often times the Allen-head "bolt" that semi-secures the rotor to the hub will be frozen. If you strip it trying to get it off, the job becomes a nightmare ... if it comes off easily, great. Be sure to use some sort of anti-seize on it or on a new one when you replace it. 2) As I recall the caliper bracket bolts have 16mm (!) heads. I use a breaker bar and perhaps also a short (2"-3") extension, with the steering wheel turned to the extreme l/r in order to get at it. 3) It's not a bad idea to put a very thin film of anti-seize on the hub flange where it meets the rotor -- will make later disassembly much easier. Other than that, it's a pretty easy job, about 2x the time to do just the pads alone. Regards, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#9. The V8 M3 Daytona Tale Revisited - from David Hogg
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 06:19:11 -0800 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: The V8 M3 Daytona Tale Revisited Surprise! The M5-powered Jet Motorsports (A.K.A. Bell Motorsports) E46 M3 has qualified 1.3 seconds faster than the fastest P-car GT3R at Daytona! Drivers are Said, Jennings, Borcheller, Stuck. Who's Jennings? The wallet. God bless him. The bad news is that there's a pesky Mosler in GT just a couple ticks faster than the M3. But this is an endurance race. We'll see. Other bad news is that Dieter Quester is helping to drive a P-car. Anybody in York, PA with Speedvision who wants to invite me over, I'll bring the beer... Dave Hogg
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? - from Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2001 08:36:15 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Rubber bushings? not a stupid question at all. you can get the bar from a Z3 2.8 Coupe which will fit (26mm diameter). just make sure you get the appropriate bushings as well (31 35 1 140 188). of course, it is not adjustable. unfortunately, there is no replacement rear bar larger than the ones found on 96+ M3s (20mm) that will fit. however, if you do wind up replacing *JUST* the front, you wind up with a car that will understeer MORE than it already does. hope this helps. ben ------------------------------------------- ben liaw - ben@shortshifter.com http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Stoopid question.. Can we use the bigger bars from > other BMW's on our M3's? > -Matt