E36M3 #923

Thursday, February 08, 2001 17:15:01

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#1. MKAutosport.com - from Chris Brown
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from James Clay
#3. Check engine light ?s - from eevans@planetc.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Chester Wong
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks
#6. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Scott .
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Bora Akyol
#8. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Bora Akyol
#9. RE: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Jim Bassett
#10. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Bora Akyol
#11. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Joe Dyer
#12. Re: V-8 M3 - from GregKono@aol.com
#13. trunk closer - from Kin Fong

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#1. MKAutosport.com - from Chris Brown
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:59:56 -0500 From: "Chris Brown" <ChrisB@Drextec.com> Subject: MKAutosport.com Hi Folks - Is Milos still doing his thing? I sent him an email several days ago wanting to spend some $$ but so far no response. Anyone have a clue to his whereabouts? Thanks! Chris Brown '95 M3 - interior wants a makeover ------------- http://www.ChristianBrown.com

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:14:40 -0500 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation Got you. We usually have the entire rear apart to replace all the other bushings with bearings as well. Also, I don't know how TC's pieces are made, but we actually have to press some of ours in - seems the BMW tolerances are not so good on the bushing hole, we have found 0.020" from our smallest hole to largest. Excellent instructions. Definitely listen to the advice about cutting through the trailing arm. The remainder of the sleeve can actually be knocked out by catching the edge with a flat-blade punch instead of cutting. Since you don't want to even score the trailing arm surface with a sawz-all blade (stressed member and all...), we prefer to not take the chance. James Late model ignition coils now on sale, just $39.95 each. For more information, visit http://www.bimmerworld.com/ignition_wires.htm http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance BMWCCA/SCCA Racecar Rental Genuine OEM and Used BMW Parts (540) 639-9648 Please copy original message text in all correspondences. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation > I did before: > > http://www.apexcone.com/RearBushings/RearBushing.html > > I do recommend removing the tires > > Jim > > James Clay wrote: > > > Elaborate? > > > > James > > > > Late model ignition coils now on sale, just $39.95 each. For more > > information, visit http://www.bimmerworld.com/ignition_wires.htm > > > > http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Engineered BMW Performance > > BMWCCA/SCCA Racecar Rental > > Genuine OEM and Used BMW Parts > > (540) 639-9648 > > > > Please copy original message text in all correspondences. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > To: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> > > Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 11:45 AM > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation > > > > > No you don't. > > > > > > Jim > > > > >

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#3. Check engine light ?s - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:19:49 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Check engine light ?s My "Check Engine" light just came on last night and I can't find any references in the owner's manual on what to "Check" for. Any suggestions on what to do? BTW it's on a '95 M3. TIA Evan

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:35:07 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation How are these bearing replacements suited for street use and part time track use in terms of maintenance (snow, rain, salt, need for grease, or cleaning, etc), additional (unnecessary) wear, practicality? I would think that the rubber bushings certainly absorb some of the initial jolt, but when these wear wouldn't the looseness cause additional damage? If a bearing is not appropriate for street use, would polyurethane bushings be better? Also, how much are the rest of the bearings? Where are they available from? As a side note, I was watching one of the races on Speedvision (with Will Turner, Dan Salama, etc) and they had a in-rear-wheel-well camera shot on one of the Audis. You could actually see the whole strut and control arm assembly twist during the corners... Chester --- James Clay <james@bimmerworld.com> wrote: > Got you. We usually have the entire rear apart to replace all the other > bushings with bearings as well. Also, I don't know how TC's pieces are > made, but we actually have to press some of ours in - seems the BMW > tolerances are not so good on the bushing hole, we have found 0.020" from > our smallest hole to largest. > > Excellent instructions. Definitely listen to the advice about cutting > through the trailing arm. The remainder of the sleeve can actually be > knocked out by catching the edge with a flat-blade punch instead of cutting. > Since you don't want to even score the trailing arm surface with a sawz-all > blade (stressed member and all...), we prefer to not take the chance. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:55:53 -0500 From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation i'm told by brian leib (from tc kline) that the monoball components for the rear should last approximately 30k-40k miles, in harsh environments (that specifically use salt). apparently, the salt can wear down the telfon liner which is bonded to the inside surface of the spherical bearing races. fortunately, replacement of these bearings are inexpensive (less than $20 from what he said). from the looks of things, the actual replacement of them, when needed, may take a bit of work. there are polyurethane replacements for the trailing arm bushings (front, which the ones from tc kline replace) as well as the mounting bushings, subframe bushings...a total of 4 different ones, all available in polyurethane. i'm told they will NOT make noise (we'll see about that). fortunately, for the entire rear set, in poly, would cost between $400-$450. not bad considering just the front trailing arm bushing from tc kline costs that much alone. unfortunately, they're still no easier to install since removing the old ones, without the correct tools, takes time. ben liaw > How are these bearing replacements suited for street use and part time track > use in terms of maintenance (snow, rain, salt, need for grease, or cleaning, > etc), additional (unnecessary) wear, practicality? > > I would think that the rubber bushings certainly absorb some of the initial > jolt, but when these wear wouldn't the looseness cause additional damage? If a > bearing is not appropriate for street use, would polyurethane bushings be > better? > > Also, how much are the rest of the bearings? Where are they available from? > > As a side note, I was watching one of the races on Speedvision (with Will > Turner, Dan Salama, etc) and they had a in-rear-wheel-well camera shot on one > of the Audis. You could actually see the whole strut and control arm assembly > twist during the corners...

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Scott .
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:17:14 -0600 From: "Scott ." <whosez@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s That light can mean a broad range of things. From what I've seen, it's a catch all error light. It could likely be a bad oxygen sensor, but also could mean you put gas in the car with the engine running. I had mine go on again awhile back and then it went off again after putting some more miles on it. If you take it to the stealer, they can plug their computer into yours and read in the data to see what caused the light to come on. -Scott ----Original Message Follows---- Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:19:49 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Check engine light ?s My "Check Engine" light just came on last night and I can't find any references in the owner's manual on what to "Check" for. Any suggestions on what to do? BTW it's on a '95 M3. TIA Evan ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:25:36 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation Ben Who makes (or will make) the poly-urethane bushing set? I am somewhat doubtful of the "will not make noise" part. Thanks Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:55:53 -0500 > From: "Ben Liaw - UUC Motorwerks" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Trailing arm bushing installation > > i'm told by brian leib (from tc kline) that the monoball components for the > rear should last approximately 30k-40k miles, in harsh environments (that > specifically use salt). apparently, the salt can wear down the telfon > liner which is bonded to the inside surface of the spherical bearing races. > fortunately, replacement of these bearings are inexpensive (less than $20 > from what he said). from the looks of things, the actual replacement of > them, when needed, may take a bit of work. > > there are polyurethane replacements for the trailing arm bushings (front, > which the ones from tc kline replace) as well as the mounting bushings, > subframe bushings...a total of 4 different ones, all available in > polyurethane. i'm told they will NOT make noise (we'll see about that). > fortunately, for the entire rear set, in poly, would cost between > $400-$450. not bad considering just the front trailing arm bushing from tc > kline costs that much alone. > > unfortunately, they're still no easier to install since removing the old > ones, without the correct tools, takes time. > > ben liaw > > > > How are these bearing replacements suited for street use and part time > track > > use in terms of maintenance (snow, rain, salt, need for grease, or > cleaning, > > etc), additional (unnecessary) wear, practicality? > > > > I would think that the rubber bushings certainly absorb some of the > initial > > jolt, but when these wear wouldn't the looseness cause additional damage? > If a > > bearing is not appropriate for street use, would polyurethane bushings be > > better? > > > > Also, how much are the rest of the bearings? Where are they available > from? > > > > As a side note, I was watching one of the races on Speedvision (with Will > > Turner, Dan Salama, etc) and they had a in-rear-wheel-well camera shot on > one > > of the Audis. You could actually see the whole strut and control arm > assembly > > twist during the corners... > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:34:29 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s On a 95, you can read the code using the "pump the gas pedal" method. Get the Bentley manual. Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott ." <whosez@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:17:14 -0600 > From: "Scott ." <whosez@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > > That light can mean a broad range of things. From what I've seen, it's a > catch all error light. It could likely be a bad oxygen sensor, but also > could mean you put gas in the car with the engine running. I had mine go on > again awhile back and then it went off again after putting some more miles > on it. If you take it to the stealer, they can plug their computer into > yours and read in the data to see what caused the light to come on. > > -Scott > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:19:49 -0500 > From: eevans@planetc.com > Subject: Check engine light ?s > > My "Check Engine" light just came on last night and I can't find any > references in the owner's manual on what to "Check" for. Any suggestions on > what to do? BTW it's on a '95 M3. > > TIA > > Evan > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:44:57 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <JBassett@mayannetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:34:29 -0800 > From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > > On a 95, you can read the code using the "pump the gas pedal" method. > > Get the Bentley manual. Or go to: http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:06 -0800 From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s Still useful to get the Bentley manual over long term. Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bassett" <JBassett@mayannetworks.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:44:57 -0800 > From: Jim Bassett <JBassett@mayannetworks.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > > > Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:34:29 -0800 > > From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s > > > > On a 95, you can read the code using the "pump the gas pedal" method. > > > > Get the Bentley manual. > > Or go to: > http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:25:49 -0800 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s On my 95 M3 its just a random reminder! Pull over, turn off the engine. Restart the engine. If the Check light goes off, ignore it, if it still comes on, better take it in for a formal code reading. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <eevans@planetc.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: [E36M3] Check engine light ?s | Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:19:49 -0500 | From: eevans@planetc.com | Subject: Check engine light ?s | | My "Check Engine" light just came on last night and I can't find any | references in the owner's manual on what to "Check" for. Any suggestions on | what to do? BTW it's on a '95 M3. | | TIA | | Evan | | | ************************************************************* | List Commands | UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. | DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. | GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). | | To issue a command/request to the server: | Send a message with the command you wish executed as the | subject of the message. | ************************************************************* | | |

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#12. Re: V-8  M3 - from GregKono@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:33:51 EST From: GregKono@aol.com Subject: Re: V-8 M3 Just returned from the Rolex 24 at Daytona. Despite the fact that Mr. France now has the "IRL" of sportscar racing series (old technology for the most part), the highlight was being blind sided by Hans Stuck. Cruising past me in the pits was this enormous V-8 rumble following the M3 mark on a beautiful Dark Blue/gray car. Made my trip south (Mi) worth the effort, despite the fact that the best seat in the house was the 24hr. Speedvision coverage. The team was pumping in 20 gallons worth ($100) of racing fuel for night practice on Thursday and I asked a few crew members about the "engine". They all played dumb on the size and technology under the hood. When he (Hans) fired the beast up to head for the track, it was awesome!!!!! I understand that he set the race record for the fastest GT car in the race (lap 200). The car lead the GT class at 0300 on Sunday, but burned a piston and was over run by the Porsche GT3R's. The M5 based motor (rumor) will definetly run with the GT3's. I'm a fan of both, let the challenge begin!!!!!!!!

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#13. trunk closer - from Kin Fong
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:51:12 -0500 From: Kin Fong <K-Fong@peapc.com> Subject: trunk closer Ha group, This is not a trick question. How many of you notice that we all have a built in trunk closer in our e-36 car? And the location is.....? I will let you know by tomorrow. Kin Fong NJ Chapter 97///M3

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