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#1. More exhaust... - from David Hogg
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:32:00 -0800 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: More exhaust... Scott, I've had both. The Borla was very entertaining, much louder than stock, and funky looking. What I remember about it most was that it would regularly set off car alarms in parking garages. It also had an awful "booming" sound in the cabin at (as I recall) 60-65 mph. I now have the AA. It is noticeably louder than stock and sounds mean and rumbly in the garage (only one alarm set off in 16 months), gives spectators an awesome staccatto sound on acceleration, and there's no booming in the cabin. I've also had the Dinan, which sounded low and mean at idle but a bit like a school bus underway. Assuming they all produce same-as-stock power, AA has hit the sporty tone dead-on for my ears. Dave Hogg Buddy with the lift got sick today so no monoball t.a.b. install yet...
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#2. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Jim Powell
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:34:29 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. Well its much better to get fooked by being stuck with the car all together? If the car won't sell..... You have to make a decision. Personally, if I couldn't sell a modified car, I'd make it an unmodified car. For instance. I had to sit and think about it when I decided to put the turbo on. Would anyone else want it. N O W A Y. I knew that I was shrinking my resell market by about 90%. Then I welded a rollbar in. There goes another 90% of my remaining market. In the next 30 days I'm going to pitch the stock seats out and weld in the front part of the cage, cutting holes in the dash in the process. Wanna guess how many people will want to buy my car then? I can count them on one hand. Now when I'm sick of the car, I'm not going to cry because the car has a retail value of about $5K. I'm a smart guy. I went to college. I even manage to feed myself without nursing assistance. Bottom line..... You run your car on the track, you modify it, you put an air freshner in it; you have decreased your market. You should either take your modifications out or get a clue. Anyone else NOT take Life 101? Jim Mark Radelow wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:21:54 -0000 > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Because: > > 1.) Not everyone has the financial freedom to let a dealer screw them on the > trade in value > > 2.) Not everyone can afford to buy a brand new car, nor do they want to get > reamed with depreciation the first two years of ownership > > 3.) Not everyone wants to get screw on the trade-in value > > I think that about covers it...huh? > > Mark > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Reply-To: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:13:26 -0600 > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what you > want? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > hahaha > > Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather seats > > > help-- > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > To: E36M3 > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one > interested? > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all > mechanical > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only > 52k > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? > Am > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a > fabulous > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance? > = > > > > am > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > Asking > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a > 300ZX > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > decided > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been > honest > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > events.) > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to > know > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > heard > > > nothing back. > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from F. Graziano
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:37:24 -0500 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. the time, and money involved in me taking off my supercharger, stock chip, radiator, injectors, exhaust, springs etc. etc. etc. is not work the 19k the dealer would give me for the car. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what you > want? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > hahaha > > Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather seats > > > help-- > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > To: E36M3 > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one interested? > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all mechanical > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only 52k > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? Am > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a fabulous > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance? = > > > > am > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > Asking > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a 300ZX > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > decided > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been honest > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > events.) > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to know > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > heard > > > nothing back. > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Jim Powell
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:36:27 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. I feel for you but you didn't see this coming? Jim "F. Graziano" wrote: > the time, and money involved in me taking off my supercharger, stock chip, > radiator, injectors, exhaust, springs etc. etc. etc. is not work the 19k the > dealer would give me for the car. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:13 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what > you > > want? > > > > Jim > > > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > > hahaha > > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather > seats > > > > help-- > > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > > To: E36M3 > > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one > interested? > > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all > mechanical > > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only > 52k > > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? > Am > > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a > fabulous > > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable > performance? = > > > > > am > > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > > Asking > > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a > 300ZX > > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > > decided > > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been > honest > > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > > events.) > > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to > know > > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > > heard > > > > nothing back. > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > List Commands > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > list. > > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > > subject of the message. > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > List Commands > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > list. > > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > > subject of the message. > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > >
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#5. Selling E36 M3 troubles - from Ed Tang
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:42:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Selling E36 M3 troubles Frank wrote: "Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? Am i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a fabulous racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance?" After getting X-mas bills and with $200 utility bills, I think the beginning of the year is a hard time to sell a car. My 2 pennies. Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#6. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:50:10 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. I fully agree that removing the mods is the best choice. I wouldn't touch a modded car simply because those mods indicate how the car was driven. My point was that trading a car in to the dealer is not always a viable position. Some people outright can't afford to take the 20-40% hit you see between market value and trade in value. Life 101...how about Finance 101. Mark From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> CC: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:34:29 -0800 Well its much better to get fooked by being stuck with the car all together? If the car won't sell..... You have to make a decision. Personally, if I couldn't sell a modified car, I'd make it an unmodified car. For instance. I had to sit and think about it when I decided to put the turbo on. Would anyone else want it. N O W A Y. I knew that I was shrinking my resell market by about 90%. Then I welded a rollbar in. There goes another 90% of my remaining market. In the next 30 days I'm going to pitch the stock seats out and weld in the front part of the cage, cutting holes in the dash in the process. Wanna guess how many people will want to buy my car then? I can count them on one hand. Now when I'm sick of the car, I'm not going to cry because the car has a retail value of about $5K. I'm a smart guy. I went to college. I even manage to feed myself without nursing assistance. Bottom line..... You run your car on the track, you modify it, you put an air freshner in it; you have decreased your market. You should either take your modifications out or get a clue. Anyone else NOT take Life 101? Jim Mark Radelow wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:21:54 -0000 > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Because: > > 1.) Not everyone has the financial freedom to let a dealer screw them on the > trade in value > > 2.) Not everyone can afford to buy a brand new car, nor do they want to get > reamed with depreciation the first two years of ownership > > 3.) Not everyone wants to get screw on the trade-in value > > I think that about covers it...huh? > > Mark > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Reply-To: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:13:26 -0600 > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what you > want? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > hahaha > > Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather seats > > > help-- > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > To: E36M3 > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one > interested? > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all > mechanical > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only > 52k > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? > Am > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a > fabulous > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance? > = > > > > am > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > Asking > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a > 300ZX > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > decided > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been > honest > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > events.) > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to > know > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > heard > > > nothing back. > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:50:06 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. I fully agree that removing the mods is the best choice. I wouldn't touch a modded car simply because those mods indicate how the car was driven. My point was that trading a car in to the dealer is not always a viable position. Some people outright can't afford to take the 20-40% hit you see between market value and trade in value. Life 101...how about Finance 101. Mark From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> CC: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:34:29 -0800 Well its much better to get fooked by being stuck with the car all together? If the car won't sell..... You have to make a decision. Personally, if I couldn't sell a modified car, I'd make it an unmodified car. For instance. I had to sit and think about it when I decided to put the turbo on. Would anyone else want it. N O W A Y. I knew that I was shrinking my resell market by about 90%. Then I welded a rollbar in. There goes another 90% of my remaining market. In the next 30 days I'm going to pitch the stock seats out and weld in the front part of the cage, cutting holes in the dash in the process. Wanna guess how many people will want to buy my car then? I can count them on one hand. Now when I'm sick of the car, I'm not going to cry because the car has a retail value of about $5K. I'm a smart guy. I went to college. I even manage to feed myself without nursing assistance. Bottom line..... You run your car on the track, you modify it, you put an air freshner in it; you have decreased your market. You should either take your modifications out or get a clue. Anyone else NOT take Life 101? Jim Mark Radelow wrote: > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 22:21:54 -0000 > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Because: > > 1.) Not everyone has the financial freedom to let a dealer screw them on the > trade in value > > 2.) Not everyone can afford to buy a brand new car, nor do they want to get > reamed with depreciation the first two years of ownership > > 3.) Not everyone wants to get screw on the trade-in value > > I think that about covers it...huh? > > Mark > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Reply-To: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:13:26 -0600 > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what you > want? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > hahaha > > Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather seats > > > help-- > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > To: E36M3 > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one > interested? > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all > mechanical > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only > 52k > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? > Am > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a > fabulous > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance? > = > > > > am > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > Asking > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a > 300ZX > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > decided > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been > honest > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > events.) > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to > know > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > heard > > > nothing back. > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#8. RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 15:01:44 -0800 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. So Jim, ..... planning on selling soon? ;-) Good point you made. I plan to hang on to mine and make it into a track baby, or pick up someone else's track baby. Say, ... Donna, ... how's Guido these days??? Hmmm???? Mike drive it like you just stole it! -----Original Message----- From: Jim Powell [mailto:jsp98m3@apexcone.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:44 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. Well its much better to get fooked by being stuck with the car all together? If the car won't sell..... You have to make a decision. Personally, if I couldn't sell a modified car, I'd make it an unmodified car. For instance. I had to sit and think about it when I decided to put the turbo on. Would anyone else want it. N O W A Y.
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#9. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Jim Wilcox
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:06:43 -0600 From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. I've had my '95 M3 up for sale now for about 3 months. I knew going into it that it would be tough being winter tiem and all, but I had no idea!!! When I first posted my car, KBB et all had the car retailed out at $27,500, now the car is going for between 23,900 and 24,500 depending where you look.(VERY SAD!!!) KBB is generous at 25,000 right now. My car is incredibly clean, has a full documented history, 4k left on the CPO Warranty , with some extras (wheels/tires, etc...) and still there was very little interest. Luckily for me I just (2hrs ago) sold it to a guy locally for a little less than I really wanted to, but not too terrible........... Hang in there, I'm betting in another 30-45 days, the M3 market will come back a little bit. JIM FWIW,YMMV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:36:27 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > I feel for you but you didn't see this coming? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > the time, and money involved in me taking off my supercharger, stock chip, > > radiator, injectors, exhaust, springs etc. etc. etc. is not work the 19k the > > dealer would give me for the car. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what > > you > > > want? > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > > > hahaha > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather > > seats > > > > > help-- > > > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > > > To: E36M3 > > > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one > > interested? > > > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all > > mechanical > > > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only > > 52k > > > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? > > Am > > > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a > > fabulous > > > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable > > performance? = > > > > > > am > > > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > > > Asking > > > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a > > 300ZX > > > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > > > decided > > > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been > > honest > > > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > > > events.) > > > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to > > know > > > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > > > heard > > > > > nothing back. > > > > > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > List Commands > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > > list. > > > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > > > subject of the message. > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > List Commands > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing > > list. > > > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > > > subject of the message. > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > List Commands > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > > subject of the message. > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. - from Jim Wilcox
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 18:09:20 -0600 From: "Jim Wilcox" <JimShadow1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. FWIW, I took off my mods, sold them separately and put the car up as stock. That got MUCH more interest than a "Modified" car. I think the impression out there is that a modified car has had the hell beaten out of it..... JIM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:10:31 -0800 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > Why don't you guys take the mods off and just trade the car in for what you > want? > > Jim > > "F. Graziano" wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 16:23:06 -0500 > > From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > i really don't know, all the P-car guys hate me because i constantly > > embarass them on the street too. go figure :-) > > P-Car driver: "whats the noise under your hood?" > > Me: uh its nothing, my belts are just loose.... :-)~ > > hahaha > > Frank > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 4:13 PM > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:01:34 -0800 > > > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > The funny thing about it is that I get *constantly* complimented > > > on my car-- avus blue (fairly rare), nice wheels and gray leather seats > > > help-- > > > in a city where 911's are more common than M3's. > > > So in a sense, it is a very desirable car, but with 110K miles, > > > and living here in LA, I doubt I could get more than $14K for it... > > > So my only option is to keep it. For good. With your low mileage, > > > I don't understand how you're having any problems... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rich Gay [mailto:rich_gay@linbeck.com] > > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:43 PM > > > To: E36M3 > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 14:35:06 -0600 > > > From: "Rich Gay" <rich_gay@linbeck.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] The M3 Market in General, My rants and questions. > > > > > > on 2/9/01 2:13 PM, F. Graziano at fgraziano@monmouth.com wrote: > > > > > > > What is going on with e36 M3's today? I put my car on the for sale > > > > market almost a week ago and i have not recieved One single solitary > > > > inquisition aside from on guy across the country. Is no one interested? > > > > I have a fine condition 1995 370hp supercharged M3 with all mechanical > > > > records, routine maintenence and quite a few upgrades. Car has only 52k > > > > miles, is manual, has brand new SO2 pole positions, brand new UUC > > > > exhaust and brand new H&R spings and some other acoutrements > > > > (spelling?).Why is nobody interested, im only asking $27,000 for it? Am > > > > i crazy or is this supposed to be a high end sports car with a fabulous > > > > racing heritage, great reliablitly and almost unbeatable performance? = > > > > am > > > > i the only person having trouble selling their car? > > > > > > I'm having trouble too. I've got a 95 M3, 75K miles, suspension mods. > > Asking > > > $22K. Had two serious prospects. First was a car guy, autocrosses a 300ZX > > > Twin Turbo, loved the car. Thought about it, talked to some buddies, > > decided > > > not to take a chance on a car which had been 'raced.' (I've been honest > > > that the car has seen about 20 track weekends for Driver Education > > events.) > > > Second guy not a car guy, couldn't drive it worth a damn, wanted to know > > > 'how negotiable is the price?', offered 20K, I countered with 20,500, > > heard > > > nothing back. > > > > > > Weird. > > > > > > I'm seriously bummed. > > > > > > - Rich > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >