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#1. Re[2]: [E36M3] Fuel Economy - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:47:54 -0600 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re[2]: [E36M3] Fuel Economy > Without fail I get between 19 and 20 MPG per tank. One time I drove to > Buttonwillow and back and got overall 25mpg. I was pretty happy about that. > The best is my first tank of gas when I got the car was gone in about 220 > miles....Gee I wonder why???? ;) Back in the fall of '99 I took an extended road trip in my M3 (~17,000 miles in 2.5 months) and consistently saw around or above 25 mpg on plain, flat, boring highway driving. This was computed the old fashioned way - mileage covered / gas put in tank. Andrej '97 M3
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices - from Peter H Reinhart
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:04:07 -0500 From: Peter H Reinhart <reinhart@neuro.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices At 11:33 AM 2/20/01 -0600, Bora Akyol wrote: >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices > >The M rated helmets are crash tested for hitting the pavement etc, don't you >think that they will be strong enough to handle the roll bar. Possibly, but...... The difference is that SA helmets have to pass 4 types of test anvils - flat hemispherical, roll-bar and edge. M helmets have to pass only 3 - flat, hemispherical, and edge. Furthermore the helmets have to survive one, two or three impacts depending on the shape. For the roll bar they have to survive *3* impacts, possibly to mimic hitting your roll bar or another helmet multiple times. The faceshield testing is also more stringent on SA helmets. Whereas test pellets can't penetrate the M helmet, they aren't even allowed to make a 2.5 mm indentation in the SA helmet. So it seems SA helmet testing is significantly more stringent, and they have to pass a load of fire resistance tests to boot. For my money it's no contest. Cheers, Peter Reinhart - http://www.neuro.duke.edu/phr/m3.html
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#3. Fuel Economy.. - from lee.leslie@firstunion.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:05:46 -0500 From: lee.leslie@firstunion.com Subject: Fuel Economy.. I don't get the variances here.. Last week I AVERAGED 88mph over the 525 mile stent to the rolex and averaged 28.4 mpg.. On trips where I drive normal speeds 75-85 I have seen 30mpg several times.. I get it over 100+ on almost a daily basis & over the life of the car I have an overall average of 23.4 MPG.. Lee 97' M3/4 37K
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices - from John Van Houten
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:11:10 -0600 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices The pavement is a flat surface, a rollbar is a cylindrical one. The impact will have different energy absorbtion charateristics on the different surfaces. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:28:33 -0800 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices > > The M rated helmets are crash tested for hitting the pavement etc, don't you > think that they will be strong enough to handle the roll bar. > > Bora > > > > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > > Reply-To: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:53:30 -0600 > > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Subject: [E36M3] Helmet Choices > > > > Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:51:53 -0600 > > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > > Subject: Helmet Choices > > > >> From the Snell Memorial Foundation Website (www.smf.org) > > > > What are the differences between the SA and M standards? > > SA Standard was designed for auto racing while M Standard was for > > motorcycling and other motorsports. There are three major differences > > between them: > > 1. SA standard requires flammability test while the M standard does > > not; > > 2. SA standard allows narrower visual field than M standard (Some SA > > helmets may not be street legal); > > 3. SA standard has rollbar impact test while M standard does not. > > > > Of course the helmet needs to fit, but I feel the SA standard is better for > > drivers schools than an M, certainly if you have a rollbar. No matter how > > careful you are, you never know when someone may dump coolant in a turn or a > > deer may run in front of you. I've seen both. > > > > Make your own choice appropriately. I'd be willing to bet that all of us > > have way more $ invested in our heads than our cars. > > > > John > > www.jvanhouten.com > > HANS ordered 2 weeks ago... > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy - from John Van Houten
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:13:49 -0600 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy I got ~26 MPG in the 2150 mile journey from Salt Lake City to Charlotte when I picked up Ice9 from Carl. This trip was done in two days--you do the math on the average speeds ;-) John
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy.. - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 18:24:43 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy.. Well you must be special....Or there are huge variances in fuel economy between OBDI and OBDII. Mark From: lee.leslie@firstunion.com Reply-To: lee.leslie@firstunion.com To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] Fuel Economy.. Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:13:30 -0600 Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 13:05:46 -0500 From: lee.leslie@firstunion.com Subject: Fuel Economy.. I don't get the variances here.. Last week I AVERAGED 88mph over the 525 mile stent to the rolex and averaged 28.4 mpg.. On trips where I drive normal speeds 75-85 I have seen 30mpg several times.. I get it over 100+ on almost a daily basis & over the life of the car I have an overall average of 23.4 MPG.. Lee 97' M3/4 37K ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices - from Sean Hester
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:30:34 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Helmet Choices >The M rated helmets are crash tested for hitting the pavement etc, don't >you >think that they will be strong enough to handle the roll bar. it's a different kind of impact. it's not a matter of being strong enough. your head hitting the pavement is a pretty WIDE dispersal of energy. your head hitting a roll bar is a pretty CONCENTRATED impact. the helmets are designed for different things. i don't think either is "better". _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#8. Car shipment cross-country - from Steve Sharp
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:49:51 -0800 From: Steve Sharp <steve.sharp@xilinx.com> Subject: Car shipment cross-country I've got to ship a car from San Jose to Pennsilvania (not my M3, but that's another story). Does anyone know of companies that do car transport at reasonable prices? Thanks, Steve Sharp '97 M3/2 '01 330i sport/premium package (wife's car)
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy.. - from Carey Probst
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:01:54 -0800 (PST) From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Economy.. I was averaging 25-26 overall until I sharked the M3. Now I'm down to 23-24 but with much better performance. Carey Probst > Well you must be special....Or there are huge variances in fuel > economy > between OBDI and OBDII. > > Last week I AVERAGED 88mph over the 525 mile stent to the rolex and > averaged 28.4 mpg.. On trips where I drive normal speeds 75-85 I > have seen > 30mpg several times.. > > I get it over 100+ on almost a daily basis & over the life of the > car I > have an overall average of 23.4 MPG.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Insurance for Driving Schools - from Sean Hester
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:07:27 -0800 From: "Sean Hester" <seanh_race@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Insurance for Driving Schools > Sean, I think you may want to consider this information regarding >coverage... > If your agent tells you that you are covered; you are (in California >anyway) covered. There is no 'out.' > As for your knowledge of the person whose claim was not paid, I >would consider the facts of that carefully. Insurance agents are agents >for >the company.... not for you. If they can avoid paying a claim, you can bet >that is what they will do. It is about money, and they will use any and >every loophole to avoid giving you $40k for your M3 that you put into a >wall >at Laguna Seca's turn 9. That too is one reason why the BMW CCA is so >adamant about not allowing anything that remotely resembles racing (lap >timing, places, etc). > My ex- is an attorney who specializes in insurance cases, and her >opinion is that an agents statement is a legally binding agreement between >you and the company he/she represents. They are acting as the agent for >the >company, that is why they are licensed by the state agencies. > If I were being jacked around by my insurance company, I would call >my agent and tell them to deal with my attorney. (and I would find the >biggest, baddest s.o.b. in the area) if i ask my agent if i'm "covered in the parking lot of a mall". he'll say "yes of course". but when some idiot backed into me in a mall parking lot, they refused my claim based on some technicality. (nothing to do with the location) are you saying that i could have hired a lawyer and said "my agent said so" and gotten paid? i doubt it. and does anyone really want to hire (and pay) a lawyer? what if you lose? now, not only do you pay $40k for your car, but you have to pay a lawyer. what if you win (and actually get your lawyer expenses paid back)? how much time and effort did you spend, take off work, etc. to get your par paid for? if you guys/gals are all comfortible thinking that you're covered that's great. i think you need to be realistic and be prepared to not be covered, not be covered unless you spend 6 months in court(s) fighting it, not have coverage after your claim is paid. if i were still tracking my $40k street car(s), i'd definetly be paying for supplemental track insurance. (assuming i could find it) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com