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#1. Need info on 6spd tranny conversion - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:38:16 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Need info on 6spd tranny conversion Rob asks> I'm need some info on the 6spd tranny conversion. My buddy wants to convert his '94 Euro-spec car to a 6spd and change the diff so that the new 6th gear is a 'tiny' bit taller than the original 5th. -Anyone know exactly what parts are needed (Ben?) ? -Anyone have a good source, either new or used, for the parts? -Anyone know the proper ratio?. I was thinking ~3.45 ? -What about adding a Quaife or upgading to a 40% lock? Rob, You need to check with Brett Anderson (Brett@koalamotorsport.com). He can probably help you with the diff or even build you one and may have some of the parts you need or help assist in sourcing some of them. He always seems to know where he can get parts for this type of project if he does not have them already. He can also perform the install if you like. I believe he is installing a 6 speed in an E34 M5 touring (Euro Spec) in April along with building the diff for this one. If you plan to do it yourself (or your buddy), he can probably help source some of the tools necessary to do this. I personally would drop the car off at his house and come back a few days/week later and pick up my car with new 6 speed and diff ;-) Best regards, Rich
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#2. Re: Another M3 Bites the Duts - from Scott Smith
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:46:13 -0800 From: Scott Smith <ssmith@akamai.com> Subject: Re: Another M3 Bites the Duts > A driving-challenged person in a saturn wagon blew through a stop sign on > Friday and I t-boned her in my '98 M3/4, a.k.a. Fleder Maus. > > BMW SF's initial estimate on the damage (the entire front end and the left > rear door) is $18K. > > Two questions: > > 1. I would like to have the insurance company total the car, as I don't > think I will ever feel safe driving it at 140mph on a track again. Does > anyone have any advice on how to convince the insurance company that they > should not fix my car? I had a local insurance carrier, and when I had two incidents out of their area, they asked for an estimate and cut me a check. it was up to me to have it repaired. when it went over the estimate, they cut me another check. so I could have easily just taken the money and bought a different car. my two incidents were roughly $9000 and $2000 to my '97 M3/4. I had no problems driving it on the track at 125+mph after the $9000 deal (front end into a wall, more on that later). I never reached 140mph, guess I'm slow :-( heck, my rev limiter kicks in at 137! > > 2. Has anyone ever had any serious body work done at BMW San Francisco? Are > they a good shop? (I am sure that they are ridiculously expensive, but I am > not footing the bill here). I had the $2000 repair (ran over a truck tire, damaging A/C, front spoiler, brake ducts, etc). They were courteous and professional. > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > drew | hating his POS Mitsubishi Galant rental > > PS--I found it very curious that none of my four airbags deployed in this > accident. While I am glad that they did not, given the potential for injury > and mess, I am left wondering what exactly would be required to trip the > sensor. > My $9000 incident was basically me driving straight into a wall (didn't know it was around that corner that I took too fast (damn Canadians and their metric system!)). bent the frame, airbag deployed, etc. re: airbag -- I looked up in Bentley or the manual or something, where it said it would deploy in a front end collision at 18mph or more (I think, I could be wrong). perhaps your collision didn't slow down your car fast enough to trigger the deceleration threshold? since you hit another car (as opposed to a fixed immovable wall), their car probably slid, absorbing some of the impact and lowering your deceleration. hence the computer thought it wasn't abrupt enough to trigger an airbag? as for the side airbags, you wouldn't expect them to go off since it was head on, as opposed to a side impact. Scott '97 M3/4 (still runs great) '96 911TT (I can hit 140 in this...)
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#3. Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust - from tristar500@mac.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:48:53 -0600 From: "tristar500@mac.com" <tristar500@mac.com> Subject: Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust Welcome to the club and a miserable club to belong to it is. Some pics of my adventure: http://homepage.mac.com/tristar500/ Happened 1/3/00 and the car is still in the shop. Should be done this week though. Happy with the repair and structurally this looks a lot worse than it is. About $17k parts and labor. I'd say impact was right at 30mph and my airbag didn't pop either. Curious to what the parameters are to blow the bag. > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:48:51 > From: "Drew Bamford" <drewbam@hotmail.com> > Subject: Another M3 Bites the Dust > > A driving-challenged person in a saturn wagon blew through a stop sign on > Friday and I t-boned her in my '98 M3/4, a.k.a. Fleder Maus. > > BMW SF's initial estimate on the damage (the entire front end and the left > rear door) is $18K. > > Two questions: > > 1. I would like to have the insurance company total the car, as I don't > think I will ever feel safe driving it at 140mph on a track again. Does > anyone have any advice on how to convince the insurance company that they > should not fix my car? > > 2. Has anyone ever had any serious body work done at BMW San Francisco? Are > they a good shop? (I am sure that they are ridiculously expensive, but I am > not footing the bill here). > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > drew | hating his POS Mitsubishi Galant rental > > PS--I found it very curious that none of my four airbags deployed in this > accident. While I am glad that they did not, given the potential for injury > and mess, I am left wondering what exactly would be required to trip the > sensor.
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Need info on 6spd tranny conversion - from ben@shortshifter.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:52:59 -0500 From: ben@shortshifter.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need info on 6spd tranny conversion >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:05:41 -0700 >From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> >Subject: Need info on 6spd tranny conversion > > I'm need some info on the 6spd tranny conversion. My buddy wants to >convert his '94 Euro-spec car to a 6spd and change the diff so that >the new 6th gear is a 'tiny' bit taller than the original 5th. > >-Anyone know exactly what parts are needed (Ben?) ? sure. you need: - 6-speed tranny - 6-speed driveshaft - tranny brace (factory one...aftermarket ones won't fit) - tranny bushings - shifter arm (aluminum carrier) - shifter lever - selector rod >-Anyone have a good source, either new or used, for the parts? i've got a complete used 6-speed kit in stock, ready to go. >-Anyone know the proper ratio?. I was thinking ~3.45 ? of course, this is subjective. a 3.23 works fine for the street, but consider the new E46 M3 with a 3.64 LSD as well. the new M3 has incredible acceleration from 0-60 (advertised as 4.8 seconds) which has a lot to do with the short gearing. my personal opinion is that a 3.38, 3.46 or even a 3.64 would be great with the 6-spd on the street. anything higher (like a 3.73) would be best on the track. >-What about adding a Quaife or upgading to a 40% lock? big dinero. figure $1300 for the quaife alone (not including installation). good luck. ben liaw
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:09:28 -0500 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust i never had to deal with this thank god (knocking on wood) but what are the chances of having the "shop" be like Turner Motorsports or something. Would the insurance care if you dropped in like a Euro 3.2 motor etc etc? Or does the car need to be repaired back to stock specs? ~Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: <tristar500@mac.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:57 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:48:53 -0600 > From: "tristar500@mac.com" <tristar500@mac.com> > Subject: Re: Another M3 Bites the Dust > > Welcome to the club and a miserable club to belong to it is. > > Some pics of my adventure: http://homepage.mac.com/tristar500/ > > Happened 1/3/00 and the car is still in the shop. Should be done this week > though. Happy with the repair and structurally this looks a lot worse than > it is. About $17k parts and labor. > > I'd say impact was right at 30mph and my airbag didn't pop either. Curious > to what the parameters are to blow the bag. > > > > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:48:51 > > From: "Drew Bamford" <drewbam@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Another M3 Bites the Dust > > > > A driving-challenged person in a saturn wagon blew through a stop sign on > > Friday and I t-boned her in my '98 M3/4, a.k.a. Fleder Maus. > > > > BMW SF's initial estimate on the damage (the entire front end and the left > > rear door) is $18K. > > > > Two questions: > > > > 1. I would like to have the insurance company total the car, as I don't > > think I will ever feel safe driving it at 140mph on a track again. Does > > anyone have any advice on how to convince the insurance company that they > > should not fix my car? > > > > 2. Has anyone ever had any serious body work done at BMW San Francisco? Are > > they a good shop? (I am sure that they are ridiculously expensive, but I am > > not footing the bill here). > > > > Thanks for any assistance you can provide. > > > > drew | hating his POS Mitsubishi Galant rental > > > > PS--I found it very curious that none of my four airbags deployed in this > > accident. While I am glad that they did not, given the potential for injury > > and mess, I am left wondering what exactly would be required to trip the > > sensor. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#6. RE: Model year changes '96-'99 - from Mark Doran
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:09:38 -0700 From: "Mark Doran" <CHOICE_Biz_Ops@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: Model year changes '96-'99 I've been unable to find details on changes to the E36 M3 from 1996 thru 1999 models. I am intimately familiar with the '95-'96 changes. Any help would be appreciated. Mark Doran CHOICE_Biz_Ops@compuserve.com
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#7. Why does Ate do this on the M3's brakes? - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:54:24 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Why does Ate do this on the M3's brakes? Hi All. There's something about the E36 M3's floating calipers that puzzles me -- perhaps someone can explain. When you install new (full-thickness) pads, you'll notice that the rear-facing "ears" at the extreme top and bottom of each brake pad's backing plates rest against a machined, horizontal surface on the caliper. However, as the pads wear, the caliper moves in such a way that those ears "leave" the machined area, move towards each other, and are now positioned over the "trough" that separates the two machined areas. Why is that? You'd think that the caliper ought to constrain the pads the same way, from when they are new to when they are nearly gone ... -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#8. [OT]: Do Northern Winters Often Do This To Aluminum Wheels? - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 10:57:56 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: [OT]: Do Northern Winters Often Do This To Aluminum Wheels? (No M3 content, therefore OT) Yesterday while getting groceries I parked next to a mid-90's Subaru from Quebec. This car, with factory aluminum wheels, had the most horribly corroded aluminum wheels I've ever seen. The paint was flaking off in various places, exposing a very rough casting below. It looked kind like someone had applied a gel-based paint stripper to the wheel, and then some of the paint had sloughed off and the rest had stayed on. Really weird. I also noticed that the brakes and rotors were totally rusted. Is this typical for cars with aluminum wheels when driven on salt-treated roads? -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Need info on 6spd tranny conversion - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:40:41 -0500 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need info on 6spd tranny conversion I just did the 6 speed conversion and Ben's list of parts is correct. I have the stock 3.23 ring & pinion now and am getting a new one with a 3.46 r&p + a Quaife built up by Brett Anderson today and installed sometime next week. I think that the 3.46 should be a good compromise between stock and the 3.73 that I bought but never installed. According to my spreadsheet, the 3.73 will bring 6th gear almost where 5th was before (i.e., a tiny bit taller) but will require a lot more shifting and I was getting used to the nice and quiet highway cruising. I would have gone with a 3.38 but they are difficult to find and quite expensive, if you can find one. I heard many positives and few negatives regarding the Quaife with the biggest negative being that it cost about $1,300. I was also told that if my car was so stiff that it lifts a rear wheel (which I don't think that my car is), then I would have a problem. There has to be at least some resistance at both wheels for a Quaife to work, otherwise you get the open differential effect and both wheels will spin freely. I also considered getting the 40% lsd but it wasn't all that much cheaper and it required a rebuild of the clutch pack every 2 years or so while the Quaife is lifetime maintenance free. I will report back next week when everything is complete. -Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 1:47 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Need info on 6spd tranny conversion Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:38:16 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Need info on 6spd tranny conversion Rob asks> I'm need some info on the 6spd tranny conversion. My buddy wants to convert his '94 Euro-spec car to a 6spd and change the diff so that the new 6th gear is a 'tiny' bit taller than the original 5th. -Anyone know exactly what parts are needed (Ben?) ? -Anyone have a good source, either new or used, for the parts? -Anyone know the proper ratio?. I was thinking ~3.45 ? -What about adding a Quaife or upgading to a 40% lock? Rob, You need to check with Brett Anderson (Brett@koalamotorsport.com). He can probably help you with the diff or even build you one and may have some of the parts you need or help assist in sourcing some of them. He always seems to know where he can get parts for this type of project if he does not have them already. He can also perform the install if you like. I believe he is installing a 6 speed in an E34 M5 touring (Euro Spec) in April along with building the diff for this one. If you plan to do it yourself (or your buddy), he can probably help source some of the tools necessary to do this. I personally would drop the car off at his house and come back a few days/week later and pick up my car with new 6 speed and diff ;-) Best regards, Rich ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Model year changes '96-'99 - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:45:14 -0500 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Model year changes '96-'99 i don't know if all of these are only in 1999 or what but some of the new features were: 4 wheel anti-lock brakes the coded Key ignition system (drive away or something like that) updated harmon kardon stereo front seat side airbags thats what i could find during a quick search ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Doran" <CHOICE_Biz_Ops@compuserve.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: [E36M3] RE: Model year changes '96-'99 > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:09:38 -0700 > From: "Mark Doran" <CHOICE_Biz_Ops@compuserve.com> > Subject: RE: Model year changes '96-'99 > > I've been unable to find details on changes to the E36 M3 > from 1996 thru 1999 models. I am intimately familiar with > the '95-'96 changes. Any help would be appreciated. > > Mark Doran > CHOICE_Biz_Ops@compuserve.com > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >