E36M3 #1082

Wednesday, March 21, 2001 21:07:58

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Jim Powell
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from John Van Houten
#3. Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation - from Chester Wong
#4. Track Events at PIR or SIR - from peter@guagenti.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Mark Radelow
#6. Re: [E36M3] Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation - from reed nicholson
#7. RE: [E36M3] Track Events at PIR or SIR - from Wentz, Don
#8. Re: [E36M3] CF/Fiberglass Body Panels - from Chester Wong
#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: 300 HP Cams/Valvetrain - from Ron Katona
#10. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Problem - from Chester Wong

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:49:54 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters And if you make it strong enough without a light valvetrain, you will grind the cam lobes off in no time at all. Jim John Van Houten wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:28:16 -0600 > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > > > I also thought that when valve float occurs, the valve springs resonate > > such that they are not able to push the valve against the cam lobe... > Hmmmm > > My understanding of valve float is that at high rpms, the spring is not > strong enough to move the valve out of the way of the piston before the hit > one another, a bad thing. > > That's why it is so import to really design your all of your valvetrain > (followers, springs, cam lift, duration and timing) for high rpm > applications--you have to make sure your valves stay out of the way of the > pistons ;-) > > John > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from John Van Houten
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:54:06 -0600 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > And if you make it strong enough without a light valvetrain, you will grind the > cam lobes off in no time at all. Yup, that's why the expertise is limited and the cost is high ;) John

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#3. Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation What socket should I use to not scratch/chip/flake/etc off the chrome coating on the Fikse lug bolts? The aluminum type ones? I know that impact sockets wrenches are way out of the question (and I'll probably swap to the OE ones when it goes to the dealer or in for service, etc). TIA, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#4. Track Events at PIR or SIR - from peter@guagenti.com
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:17:00 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: Track Events at PIR or SIR Anyone in the Northwest know of BMW (or BMW-friendly) track events taking place at PIR or SIR this year? I'd like to travel up from the Bay Area for one or two and drag some Portland-local friends along. Any info is appreciated. -p ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. http://www.hispeed.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:15:52 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters The purpose of the valve springs is to prevent valve float. If the valves float (which can occur on any car and high enough rpm) the valves will stay open long enough to come into contact with the piston. That's what happens when you overrev a M3 engine (or a 2.0l 16v engine....10,000rpm baby...BOOM!) Mark From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com>, e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:11:48 -0800 (PST) Thanks for the info. I was always under the impression that the cam lobe was in constant contact with the top of the valve and that the valve springs push the valve against the cam to follow it after the "high" part of the lobe spins past. I also thought that when valve float occurs, the valve springs resonate such that they are not able to push the valve against the cam lobe... Hmmmm Chester --- Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> wrote: > Lifters are technically cam followers. The job of the "follower" is to sit > between the camshaft lob and the lifter itself. It turns the shape of the > lob into the up and down movement of the valve. On a solid follower car the > actual piece between the cam and valve is not self-adjusting. Periodically > you have to adjust the valvetrain with shims to maintain the proper gap > between the camshaft lob and follower. On a hydraulic follower, oil > pressure is used to keep the follower pressed against the cam at all times. > Thus no adjustment is needed. I dunno if I explained that too well... But > that is basically the difference. > > Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation - from reed nicholson
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:20:44 From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation >What socket should I use to not scratch/chip/flake/etc off the chrome >coating >on the Fikse lug bolts? The aluminum type ones? I have used the aluminum one from Griot's religiously (well, I WAS on my knees) on my Fikse chrome lugs and the chrome is STILL chipping on some of the corners. Reed/Seattle _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Track Events at PIR or SIR - from Wentz, Don
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 16:50:11 -0800 From: "Wentz, Don" <don.wentz@intel.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Track Events at PIR or SIR www.drivingevents.com has an amazing list of tracks and events. Videos of laps at many of them as well. BMWs are welcome at pretty much all of the events at PIR. We've been to Shelby, Porsche, Alfa, Lotus and BMW days. Viper is the only one that I know has turned us away. Most events are about $85/day, although I just heard that insurance costs will make BMW days go to $100. That's typically for 5 20-35 minute sessions and lunch, free instructors. dw Anyone in the Northwest know of BMW (or BMW-friendly) track events taking place at PIR or SIR this year? I'd like to travel up from the Bay Area for one or two and drag some Portland-local friends along. Any info is appreciated.

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#8. Re: [E36M3] CF/Fiberglass Body Panels - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 17:02:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] CF/Fiberglass Body Panels You should check the archives at bimmer.org. They seem to be obsessed with the black stuff. Personally, if I wasn't racing and if I didn't have say a rollcage for side impact, there's no way I'd replace something like a door with CF. One site that has a hood is http://mkautosport.com/engine.htm Chester --- John Van Houten <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 12:38:08 -0600 > From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> > Subject: CF/Fiberglass Body Panels > > Anyone know who makes 'em? How much, etc? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: 300 HP Cams/Valvetrain - from Ron Katona
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:00:09 -0500 From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 300 HP Cams/Valvetrain Matt Henson wrote: >The Euro head has solid lifters. This is the critical >component. Yeah, and the solid lifters would eliminate that damn tick-tick-ticking after autocross runs. -- Ron Katona

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Fuel Problem - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 18:56:28 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fuel Problem Could this be multiple overfillings filling up the overflow container? I was under the impression that our cars have an overflow catch container that picks up any gas that might overflow the tank. So if you or your service attendant likes to get that extra $.25 worth of gas to even it out, you're not doing your car any favors. But it could also be a seal problem. Anyway, what I always do is as soon as the filler nozzle pops, I take it out. If a service attendant is filling the car (damn Jersey), I tell them that it's okay not to top it off. Chester --- Todd Ogi <TOgi@etimecapital.com> wrote: > So I roll into work today and after parking, notice a fuel smell. I haven't > driven the car in two days but prior > to that I have 80 miles on the current tank, so I'm thinking it can't be the > overflow. I check underneath the > car, right about on the rear jackpoint on the passenger side and see that > the underside is a bit wet. I give it > the smell/feel test and sure enough it's gas. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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