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#1. Drove an E46 M3 tonight... - from Rob
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 22:23:22 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: Drove an E46 M3 tonight... The subject line say it all.....I had it at my disposal for 1/2 an hour and beat on it :-) Anyone want to know more or is this old news? Rob
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#2. Re: Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 05:20:58 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >To: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> >CC: e36m3@bmw-m.net >Subject: Re: Looking for chrome lug bolt socket recommendation >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 20:44:12 -0800 (PST) <snip> >>I think that chrome coatings will always be more susceptible to damage >>than anodized coatings. > >Well, then what's a good plan of action if you want shiny metal looking lub >bolts? Anodization only works for aluminum, right? What material is the >OE one made of? They look like crap after much use and handling from >technicians with impact wrenches. Is it possible to make them out of >chromoly so that they wouldn't rust? Then polish the living crap out of >them to give them a nice shine? I'm sure someone can provide you with an answer. I prefer the look of black lug bolts. When they get gnarly looking, I guess I'll just replace them. In the meantime, I very carefully use my 17mm Craftsman socket and torque wrench. The lug bolts still look great. I think that shops have remove my wheels 3-4 times, so "the crazed mechanic with an impact wrench" hasn't had much contact with my car. >Probably putting way too much thought into it, Yeah. Get back to thinking about those valve springs! ;-) -rb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Valve Float and Cams - from RogRacer@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:27:36 EST From: RogRacer@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Valve Float and Cams Mark writes...."If the valves float..the valves contact the pistons....that's what happens when you overev an M3" Agreed. I think this is the real problem with the M3 valvetrain and not the reatiners. IMHO, the extra nitriding on the later retainers was a bit if a red herring. If the valves float, and the pistons contact them, then your going to bend the retainers...that doesn't mean the retainers are the problem. We overreved two motors back in the days of IMSA Street Stock and concluded that valve float was the problem...not the retainers. Fitting stiffener valve springs gave us 500+ rpm more headroom. The retainers were left stock. So I'm not convinced that with these hot 300 hp cams you don't need a spring upgrade. IMO, the stock springs are sized to follow the stock cam profile... anything more aggressive and you may be really asking for it..... BTW, I'd liked to be wrong about this. Roger W. Graves RogRacer@aol.com '95 M3
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#4. Re: M3 specimin - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:44:29 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: M3 specimin on 3/22/01 12:27 AM, "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > *ack* *caugh* *choke* *spew* *heave* > Whew! > The only thing missing from this horrendous M3 is a Zeemax body kit. > I would have rather spent the $100k on a 993 Turbo! God yes! Amazing that someone would spend untold hours and undoubted fabrication skill doing such a thing. Neil 96 M3
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Drove an E46 M3 tonight... - from John Stoj
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:04:33 -0800 (PST) From: John Stoj <John_Stoj@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drove an E46 M3 tonight... On Wed, 21 Mar 2001 23:27:10 -0600, Rob wrote: I had it at my disposal for 1/2 an hour and beat on it :-) Anyone want to know more or is this old news? Gee, I wonder what the answer is to that question. But did you have to beat on it to get it to run? - John _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
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#6. E46 M3 drive details - from Rob
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:16:12 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: E46 M3 drive details Okay, Gotta' make this quick since I'm running late. Sooooo, I drove a Carbon black E46 M3 for half an hour last night. I was not all that excited about this car as I think it is too heavy, too big and waaaay too full of techno crap and gadgets (power rear windows!?!), and not all that sexy. Reminds me more of my Supra TT than it does of an E30 M3. Anyway......underneath the car is smoother (areo) than an E36 M3, according to my mesurements it has 26/22mm sway bars, identical looking brakes that are a bit bigger, alloy F&R control arms, big dia exhaust tubing but the muffler is huge and obviously designed that way just so they con route the (useless) quad tips. At least it sounds like a real ///M car :) I'd say in between an E36 M3 and an E34 M5 with some 'tick' at idle and a nice deep sound. The steering is WAY too light but the clutch is much better than a 330ci. Shifter is short and direct (one of the best parts of the car) and the interior is typical E46. Okay it is pretty damn fast. It is geared quite short which no doubt adds to the feeling of quickness but even with 10 miles on the whole car it flies, can't wait to drive one with 10K miles to see how much faster it is. Even from 2000rpm in 6th it pulls fine. For me this car is all about the engine, I just love it!!!! Understeer....oops did I say that :) Yes she loves to understeer! I am notorious for my Stefan Roser driving style (RUF anyone?) and I know how do drive around understeer but the combo of 225F and 255R tires and that crazy new ///M diff makes the car want to understeer, although when you are sideways it is quite nice and easy to control. The suspension is actually firmer that I had expected and rides quite stiffly over things, although the car is way too high, it must be lowered, at least if you want it to look like a real car and not an X5. Overall a great car for the masses and a better car than the E36 M3 for 99% of the people. For me the perfect car would be an E36 M3 with the E46 M3 motor and diff......and I'd bet it would be as fast or faster than the E46 on any track in the world. Oh well, long live all ///M cars! Rob
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#7. Redline Oil FS in Houston (last 2 qts) - from Daniel
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 07:36:58 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Redline Oil FS in Houston (last 2 qts) Thanks to all who came by to help me clean up the extra qts of oil. I now have 2 qts left of the 10W40 and would sell it for $6.00/qt Thanks Dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Track Events at PIR or SIR - from Miki Haraguchi
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 08:50:55 -0800 (PST) From: Miki Haraguchi <mharaguchi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track Events at PIR or SIR Go to http://www.bmwpugetsound.com (our CCA chapter website) and click on "Driving" in the left navigation bar to view our Motorsports calendar. There are also links on that page to contact the track event directors of other BMW-friendly Pacific Northwest marque clubs that are holding track days at SIR and PIR this season. Miki 1997 328is LTW > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 15:17:00 US/Pacific > From: peter@guagenti.com > Subject: Track Events at PIR or SIR > > Anyone in the Northwest know of BMW (or BMW-friendly) track events > taking place at PIR or SIR this year? I'd like to travel up from the Bay > Area > for one or two and drag some Portland-local friends along. > > Any info is appreciated. > > -p __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters So why are the solid lifters the trick to 8000RPM? Does this mean that valve float isn't what kills you between 7400-8000? Or are the solids lighter, decreasing the mass that the springs must move, therefore increasing the RPM at which float will occur? Or ? -Matt --- Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:15:52 -0000 > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > > The purpose of the valve springs is to prevent valve > float. If the valves > float (which can occur on any car and high enough > rpm) the valves will stay > open long enough to come into contact with the > piston. That's what happens > when you overrev a M3 engine (or a 2.0l 16v > engine....10,000rpm > baby...BOOM!) > > Mark > > > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > To: Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com>, > e36m3@bmw-m.net > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:11:48 -0800 (PST) > > Thanks for the info. I was always under the > impression that the cam lobe > was > in constant contact with the top of the valve and > that the valve springs > push > the valve against the cam to follow it after the > "high" part of the lobe > spins > past. I also thought that when valve float occurs, > the valve springs > resonate > such that they are not able to push the valve > against the cam lobe... Hmmmm > > Chester > > --- Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Lifters are technically cam followers. The job > of the "follower" is to > sit > > between the camshaft lob and the lifter itself. > It turns the shape of > the > > lob into the up and down movement of the valve. > On a solid follower car > the > > actual piece between the cam and valve is not > self-adjusting. > Periodically > > you have to adjust the valvetrain with shims to > maintain the proper gap > > between the camshaft lob and follower. On a > hydraulic follower, oil > > pressure is used to keep the follower pressed > against the cam at all > times. > > Thus no adjustment is needed. I dunno if I > explained that too well... > But > > that is basically the difference. > > > > Mark > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:30:44 -0800 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters Which is more reactive? A solid piece of steel or a pillow? Jim Matt Henson wrote: > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 11:26:08 -0800 (PST) > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > > So why are the solid lifters the trick to 8000RPM? > Does this mean that valve float isn't what kills you > between 7400-8000? Or are the solids lighter, > decreasing the mass that the springs must move, > therefore increasing the RPM at which float will > occur? Or ? > -Matt > > --- Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2001 00:15:52 -0000 > > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > > > > The purpose of the valve springs is to prevent valve > > float. If the valves > > float (which can occur on any car and high enough > > rpm) the valves will stay > > open long enough to come into contact with the > > piston. That's what happens > > when you overrev a M3 engine (or a 2.0l 16v > > engine....10,000rpm > > baby...BOOM!) > > > > Mark > > > > > > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > > To: Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com>, > > e36m3@bmw-m.net > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Solid Valve Lifters > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 14:11:48 -0800 (PST) > > > > Thanks for the info. I was always under the > > impression that the cam lobe > > was > > in constant contact with the top of the valve and > > that the valve springs > > push > > the valve against the cam to follow it after the > > "high" part of the lobe > > spins > > past. I also thought that when valve float occurs, > > the valve springs > > resonate > > such that they are not able to push the valve > > against the cam lobe... Hmmmm > > > > Chester > > > > --- Mark Radelow <radelow@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Lifters are technically cam followers. The job > > of the "follower" is to > > sit > > > between the camshaft lob and the lifter itself. > > It turns the shape of > > the > > > lob into the up and down movement of the valve. > > On a solid follower car > > the > > > actual piece between the cam and valve is not > > self-adjusting. > > Periodically > > > you have to adjust the valvetrain with shims to > > maintain the proper gap > > > between the camshaft lob and follower. On a > > hydraulic follower, oil > > > pressure is used to keep the follower pressed > > against the cam at all > > times. > > > Thus no adjustment is needed. I dunno if I > > explained that too well... > > But > > > that is basically the difference. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > > from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > > list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > > requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > > the > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************