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#1. RE: [E36M3] Buttonwillow caravan? - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:57:56 -0800 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Buttonwillow caravan? *sigh* the interstate? 101? And then Hwy 46, 'the highway of death?' Yikes, you got more guts than I! Okay, here's the skinny, take 101 to Santa Margarita, it's maybe 15 miles south of the 101/46 interchange. Head into Santa Margarita, but don't blink as you'll miss it. Take the Hwy 58 turn off and follow it a looooooong way. Towards the end, waaay out in California Valley is really some beautiful country, and certainly so this time of year. Grassy rolling hills, poppys popping out all over the place... long sweepers, smooth roads and nary a car or RV/SUV/insane semi-trucker in sight. At the end of California Valley is some 15 mph corners between the WFO straights. Try to keep it under 110, anything beyond tends to get you airborne on the rolling hills at the east end of the California Valley. Follow it up and over the Temblor Range (did you know you passed over the San Andreas fault line?) and then take Hwy 33 north. That will take you into Buttonwillow and on towards I-5 which is east of B/w. Don't blame me if it was fun. Mike
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#2. Eddie Bello Arrested - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:21 EST From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: Eddie Bello Arrested I dont know if anyone follows import drag racing but this is pretty big news. Ive raced with him in the past. http://www.cbsnewyork.com/topstories/StoryFolder/story_085181937_html
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#3. Mid-Ohio Driving School - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:22:32 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Mid-Ohio Driving School I just spoke to the Driving Events Chair for the Northern Ohio Mid-Ohio driving school on May 26 - 27 and it is approximately 75% full at the present moment. There is also a club race on that Monday. Packets will be mailed mid to late April. http://www.nohiobmwcca.org/ FYI. Any other listers going or planning to go? Regards, Rich '95 M3 - May Mid-Ohio should be the first driving school of the year. '89 325is - May Mid-Ohio will be this car and my brother's first driving school.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Track Wheels - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:38:03 -0500 From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track Wheels Mike, I seem to recall reading that cast wheels will bend before cracking whereas forged wheels are not supposed to bend before they finally just crack. However, like you, I find it interesting that the suspension and tire didn't give as well... Dave -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:55:50 -0500 From: "Michael" <mike@strictly-german.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Track Wheels I have seen a IFG wheel with a spoke that cracked all the way through It had been on a car that went off track and did several 360s. But I was shocked that the wheel broke and the tire did not blow out nor did any of the suspension bend with the way folks described the IFGs as being SUPER strong. I would have thought it would have bent instead of snapping with it being forged. Mike
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Eddie Bello Arrested - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:39:42 -0800 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eddie Bello Arrested so thats what i need to do to build my rally car ... hmmm. ~Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: <HYPERM3@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 1610 Subject: [E36M3] Eddie Bello Arrested > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:08:21 EST > From: HYPERM3@aol.com > Subject: Eddie Bello Arrested > > I dont know if anyone follows import drag racing but this is pretty big > news. > Ive raced with him in the past. > > http://www.cbsnewyork.com/topstories/StoryFolder/story_085181937_html > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#6. RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:38:43 -0500 From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> Subject: RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience Milo, Can I get this kid's name and phone number?? I want to be the first to offer him $$ for the drive train from this car that the odds have got to show him wadding-up (unless of course, you're leaving out that he's the son of some racing family and has been driving since he could walk)... I shudder to think what his insurance premium is going to be... Dave Am I the only one who doesn't understand why an 18 year old would be given the keys to a car like this (aside from Daddy's checkbook and low I.Q., of course). And no, I'm not envious... I actually wouldn't have wanted this kind of car when I was 18 (I wouldn't mind having one given to me now though ;-) -----Original Message----- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:17:59 EST From: Milotaks1@aol.com Subject: Religious E46 M3 Experience So the word on the street is that there is a light blue E46 at Vista, the local BMW dealership. This is the only one they got and this is South Florida we are dealing with. I charge up the old video camera and head down hoping to get my hand on it because I know a few guys over there. When I get there I hear it is already sold. (Big Surprise) I do a walk around and up comes my buddy who is 18 years old. I figure he is there for the same reasons I am, but I learn quickly that he just finished signing the papers for it. A 18 YEAR OLD WITH THE ONLY M3 IN FT LAUDERDALE. I don't know how he did it or who he had to kill but I am so jealous. I don't know if he knows how lucky he is but I am going to make it my goal to let him know every day. What I would give . . . . . Milo 95 M3 - M3 are like fine wine, they get better with age (maybe not but I still love my M) -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:36:35 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Track Wheels on 3/26/01 9:56 PM, Peter Fanning <pfanning@premier1.net> wrote: > I don't know if the SSR's are fully forged or part forged or only kinda > forged. There are several BBS wheels where one part is forged, the other is > not. Please refer to my "may". > Peter Fanning Here's what the Tire Rack web site says about it: "In a specialized process perfected by Alumax, uniquely structured alloy billets are heated to a semi solid state (the consistency of soft butter) and molded in a specifically engineered forging press. Through an exclusive contract with Alumax, SSR has further developed this technology and is the only manufacturer in the world today producing Semi-Solid Forged alloy wheels. This ultra high tech forging technology creates a very strong and light weight wheel ideal for street or track." The object of forging (either hot or cold) is to develop a grain structure in the metal which adds to its strength. Cast products have no such grain structure, as the liquid metal solidifies randomly. It's impossible to say how strong the SSR wheels may be. Only experience will tell. Having handled one while at tire Rack recently, I can tell you that they are phenomenally light, and beautifully finished. Neil 96 M3 -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:56:33 -1000 From: Jay Guzman <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: my m3 is better than the e46 M3 i'll give you the truth right now...my E36 M3 is better than any E46 M3...is it mods, no...is it the color, no...still guessing? well, i'll tell you...its because i already have the E36 M3 and cant afford to trade in my car and buy an E46 M3...lets face it...the E46 M3 is coming and we no longer have the "better" 3-series... jay- sucking on sour grapes and secretly longing for an E46 M3 or an E39 M5 or even an E30 M3... :) -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:16:28 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Rear-view mirror mount removal Anybody know how to remove the disc-shaped thingy that's glued to the inside of the windshield? Turns out that it wasn't attached in the right orientation when the windshield was replaced, and I'd like to fix that. Thansk, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:38:32 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 -1.0 of camber up front isn't unusual. I thought the spec was supposed to be around -1.5->0.8? I think you're okay. If you want more up front then add some shims, a crash bolt or get plates. -Matt --- Preston Carey <pcarey@babson.edu> wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:06:02 -0500 > From: "Preston Carey" <pcarey@babson.edu> > Subject: Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 > > > I took my 98 M3/4 (49,993 miles, X brace, UUC > shifter, > Sharked&Intake...thats it) to the dealer to get an > alignment done after > swapping off my snow tires. I return to pick it up > and they ask me if the > car has been in an accident because they aren't able > to get the alignment > into spec. Car has never been in an accident, sees > a couple of track days a > year but nothing exceptional. Boston roads are > pretty bad is the only other > thing I can think of. > > Anyone make anything from these specs. Camber is > off on all 4 wheels and > Caster is slightly off on Left Front which puts the > Cross Caster out of > spec. What would make the camber off on all 4 > wheels? > > LF Camber -1.1 (spec -2.5->-1.5) Caster 7.6 (spec > 6.5->7.5) > RF Camber -0.8 Caster 6.7 > LR Camber -1.5 (spec -2.9->-2.5) > RR Camber -2.0 > > Any help would be much appreciated. Dealer kind of > shrugged when I asked > them what the problem could be, they are going to > take the car back tomorrow > to "measure suspension pieces to see if they are in > spec". They are saying > that alignment isn't covered under warranty (which > is true) but is this an > alignment issue, or something else? > > Regards, > Preston > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0800 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] my m3 is better than the e46 M3 This may be bad to say, but I found my dream car and it ain't an E46 M3. It is a Porsche 911 GT2 and it retails for $176K if you could get one. I certainly can't. In the meantime, I just love my E36 M3 and will hopefully get an E46 M3 to fill the space next to it in the garage sometime in the next two years. Bora On Monday, March 26, 2001, at 07:56 PM, Jay Guzman wrote: > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:56:33 -1000 > From: Jay Guzman <jguzman@hawaii.edu> > Subject: my m3 is better than the e46 M3 > > i'll give you the truth right now...my E36 M3 is better than any E46 > M3...is it > mods, no...is it the color, no...still guessing? well, i'll tell > you...its > because i already have the E36 M3 and cant afford to trade in my car > and buy an > E46 M3...lets face it...the E46 M3 is coming and we no longer have the > "better" > 3-series... > > jay- sucking on sour grapes and secretly longing for an E46 M3 or an > E39 M5 or > even an E30 M3... :) > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:08:41 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 At 04:06 PM 3/26/2001 -0600, Preston Carey wrote: >Anyone make anything from these specs. Camber is off on all 4 wheels and >Caster is slightly off on Left Front which puts the Cross Caster out of >spec. What would make the camber off on all 4 wheels? > >LF Camber -1.1 (spec -2.5->-1.5) Caster 7.6 (spec 6.5->7.5) >RF Camber -0.8 Caster 6.7 >LR Camber -1.5 (spec -2.9->-2.5) >RR Camber -2.0 > >Any help would be much appreciated. Hi Preston, Their alignment specification looks way off!!! If I could get 2.5 degrees of negative camber in the front of a stock M3, then I would still be racing mine. A stock '95 M3 should be able to get .8 to .9 degrees of negative camber in the front. A '96+ m3 should be able to get .6 to .8 degrees of negative camber in the front. My street alignment with a full tank of gas and 160 lbs in the driver's seat is .8 degrees negative camber front and 1.1 degrees negative camber in the rear. My race alignment with a 1/4 tank of gas, 160 lbs in the driver's seat, and BMW crash bolts in the front struts, is 1.3 degrees negative camber in the front and 1.8 degrees negative camber in the rear. It sounds like you need to take it to a real alignment shop in your area. I hope that helps. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com 1995 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo II A-Stock #173 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:58:36 -0500 From: "Dave Spragg" <dspragg@mediaone.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels Please don't take offense, I was not flaming... if I did I am sorry as I didn't mean too. Saying they "may" be stronger comes across as if one think they are more likely stronger than not. With changing technology comes changing specs... there may well be something out there better than one piece hot forged... there may be 50 different kinds of hot forging techniques with one of them being 10 times stronger than the next. Who knows. Without a test or some decent data one can't draw a conclusion. Folks are posting about various experiences and what they have seen as well. That still is not enough data for me... same hit might have done in any wheel. Fact is that most of them are good enough that they are fine or we are too small a market for an independent testing body to form and be worth while or something like that. If the IFG and SSR were the same price and weight I would probably go IFG since they would look cooler on my black car. I like to hear what has broken and how though... it's kinda fun to read. :) Dave -----Original Message----- From: Peter Fanning [mailto:pfanning@premier1.net] Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:15:16 -0800 From: Peter Fanning <pfanning@premier1.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels I know the IFG's are a one piece hot forged wheel. I don't know if the SSR's are fully forged or part forged or only kinda forged. There are several BBS wheels where one part is forged, the other is not. Please refer to my "may". Peter Fanning At 04:24 PM 3/26/2001 -0500, Dave Spragg wrote: >What would make you think they might not be as strong? They might be >stronger. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* ************************************************************** Digest Commands UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. **************************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience - from F. Graziano
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:43:51 -0800 From: "F. Graziano" <fgraziano@monmouth.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience Not to be a dick but i got my Supercharged M3 last year (when i was 18). Not all teenagers are allergic to work you know. Granted an e46 is a different league but still the generalization is unnecessary. ~Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 1640 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:38:43 -0500 > From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> > Subject: RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience > > Milo, > > Can I get this kid's name and phone number?? I want to be the first to > offer him $$ for the drive train from this car that the odds have got to > show him wadding-up (unless of course, you're leaving out that he's the son > of some racing family and has been driving since he could walk)... I > shudder to think what his insurance premium is going to be... > > Dave > Am I the only one who doesn't understand why an 18 year old would be given > the keys to a car like this (aside from Daddy's checkbook and low I.Q., of > course). And no, I'm not envious... I actually wouldn't have wanted this > kind of car when I was 18 (I wouldn't mind having one given to me now though > ;-) > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:17:59 EST > From: Milotaks1@aol.com > Subject: Religious E46 M3 Experience > > So the word on the street is that there is a light blue E46 at Vista, > the > local BMW dealership. This is the only one they got and this is South > Florida we are dealing with. I charge up the old video camera and head down > > hoping to get my hand on it because I know a few guys over there. When I > get > there I hear it is already sold. (Big Surprise) I do a walk around and up > comes my buddy who is 18 years old. I figure he is there for the same > reasons I am, but I learn quickly that he just finished signing the papers > for it. A 18 YEAR OLD WITH THE ONLY M3 IN FT LAUDERDALE. I don't know how > he did it or who he had to kill but I am so jealous. I don't know if he > knows how lucky he is but I am going to make it my goal to let him know > every > day. What I would give . . . . . > > Milo > 95 M3 - M3 are like fine wine, they get better with age (maybe not but I > still love my M) > > > > -------------------- 4 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:36:35 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Track Wheels > > on 3/26/01 9:56 PM, Peter Fanning <pfanning@premier1.net> wrote: > > > I don't know if the SSR's are fully forged or part forged or only kinda > > forged. There are several BBS wheels where one part is forged, the other > is > > not. Please refer to my "may". > > Peter Fanning > > Here's what the Tire Rack web site says about it: > > "In a specialized process perfected by Alumax, uniquely structured alloy > billets are heated to a semi solid state (the consistency of soft butter) > and molded in a specifically engineered forging press. Through an exclusive > contract with Alumax, SSR has further developed this technology and is the > only manufacturer in the world today producing Semi-Solid Forged alloy > wheels. This ultra high tech forging technology creates a very strong and > light weight wheel ideal for street or track." > > The object of forging (either hot or cold) is to develop a grain structure > in the metal which adds to its strength. Cast products have no such grain > structure, as the liquid metal solidifies randomly. > > It's impossible to say how strong the SSR wheels may be. Only experience > will tell. Having handled one while at tire Rack recently, I can tell you > that they are phenomenally light, and beautifully finished. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:56:33 -1000 > From: Jay Guzman <jguzman@hawaii.edu> > Subject: my m3 is better than the e46 M3 > > i'll give you the truth right now...my E36 M3 is better than any E46 M3...is > it > mods, no...is it the color, no...still guessing? well, i'll tell you...its > because i already have the E36 M3 and cant afford to trade in my car and buy > an > E46 M3...lets face it...the E46 M3 is coming and we no longer have the > "better" > 3-series... > > jay- sucking on sour grapes and secretly longing for an E46 M3 or an E39 M5 > or > even an E30 M3... :) > > > > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:16:28 -0700 > From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Subject: Rear-view mirror mount removal > > Anybody know how to remove the disc-shaped thingy that's glued to the > inside of the windshield? > > Turns out that it wasn't attached in the right orientation when the > windshield was replaced, and I'd like to fix that. > > Thansk, > -- > > ______________________________________ > Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com > > > > -------------------- 7 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 20:38:32 -0800 (PST) > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 > > -1.0 of camber up front isn't unusual. I thought the > spec was supposed to be around -1.5->0.8? I think > you're okay. If you want more up front then add some > shims, a crash bolt or get plates. > -Matt > > > --- Preston Carey <pcarey@babson.edu> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:06:02 -0500 > > From: "Preston Carey" <pcarey@babson.edu> > > Subject: Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 > > > > > > I took my 98 M3/4 (49,993 miles, X brace, UUC > > shifter, > > Sharked&Intake...thats it) to the dealer to get an > > alignment done after > > swapping off my snow tires. I return to pick it up > > and they ask me if the > > car has been in an accident because they aren't able > > to get the alignment > > into spec. Car has never been in an accident, sees > > a couple of track days a > > year but nothing exceptional. Boston roads are > > pretty bad is the only other > > thing I can think of. > > > > Anyone make anything from these specs. Camber is > > off on all 4 wheels and > > Caster is slightly off on Left Front which puts the > > Cross Caster out of > > spec. What would make the camber off on all 4 > > wheels? > > > > LF Camber -1.1 (spec -2.5->-1.5) Caster 7.6 (spec > > 6.5->7.5) > > RF Camber -0.8 Caster 6.7 > > LR Camber -1.5 (spec -2.9->-2.5) > > RR Camber -2.0 > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. Dealer kind of > > shrugged when I asked > > them what the problem could be, they are going to > > take the car back tomorrow > > to "measure suspension pieces to see if they are in > > spec". They are saying > > that alignment isn't covered under warranty (which > > is true) but is this an > > alignment issue, or something else? > > > > Regards, > > Preston > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > > from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > > list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > > requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > > the > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text > > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:08:52 -0800 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] my m3 is better than the e46 M3 > > This may be bad to say, but I found my dream car and it ain't an E46 M3. > > It is a Porsche 911 GT2 and it retails for $176K if you could get one. I > certainly can't. > > In the meantime, I just love my E36 M3 and will hopefully get an E46 M3 > to fill the space next to it in the garage sometime in the next two > years. > > Bora > > On Monday, March 26, 2001, at 07:56 PM, Jay Guzman wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 17:56:33 -1000 > > From: Jay Guzman <jguzman@hawaii.edu> > > Subject: my m3 is better than the e46 M3 > > > > i'll give you the truth right now...my E36 M3 is better than any E46 > > M3...is it > > mods, no...is it the color, no...still guessing? well, i'll tell > > you...its > > because i already have the E36 M3 and cant afford to trade in my car > > and buy an > > E46 M3...lets face it...the E46 M3 is coming and we no longer have the > > "better" > > 3-series... > > > > jay- sucking on sour grapes and secretly longing for an E46 M3 or an > > E39 M5 or > > even an E30 M3... :) > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > -------------------- 9 -------------------- > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:08:41 -0800 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Alignment Problem: Camberless M3 > > At 04:06 PM 3/26/2001 -0600, Preston Carey wrote: > >Anyone make anything from these specs. Camber is off on all 4 wheels and > >Caster is slightly off on Left Front which puts the Cross Caster out of > >spec. What would make the camber off on all 4 wheels? > > > >LF Camber -1.1 (spec -2.5->-1.5) Caster 7.6 (spec 6.5->7.5) > >RF Camber -0.8 Caster 6.7 > >LR Camber -1.5 (spec -2.9->-2.5) > >RR Camber -2.0 > > > >Any help would be much appreciated. > > Hi Preston, > > Their alignment specification looks way off!!! If I could get 2.5 degrees > of negative camber in the front of a stock M3, then I would still be racing > mine. A stock '95 M3 should be able to get .8 to .9 degrees of negative > camber in the front. A '96+ m3 should be able to get .6 to .8 degrees of > negative camber in the front. > > My street alignment with a full tank of gas and 160 lbs in the driver's > seat is .8 degrees negative camber front and 1.1 degrees negative camber in > the rear. My race alignment with a 1/4 tank of gas, 160 lbs in the > driver's seat, and BMW crash bolts in the front struts, is 1.3 degrees > negative camber in the front and 1.8 degrees negative camber in the rear. > > It sounds like you need to take it to a real alignment shop in your area. > > I hope that helps. > -- > Rex Tener > rex_tener@yahoo.com > 1995 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo II A-Stock #173 > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 07:58:36 -0500 > From: "Dave Spragg" <dspragg@mediaone.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels > > Please don't take offense, I was not flaming... if I did I am sorry as I > didn't mean too. Saying they "may" be stronger comes across as if one think > they are more likely stronger than not. With changing technology comes > changing specs... there may well be something out there better than one > piece hot forged... there may be 50 different kinds of hot forging > techniques with one of them being 10 times stronger than the next. Who > knows. Without a test or some decent data one can't draw a conclusion. > > Folks are posting about various experiences and what they have seen as well. > That still is not enough data for me... same hit might have done in any > wheel. Fact is that most of them are good enough that they are fine or we > are too small a market for an independent testing body to form and be worth > while or something like that. If the IFG and SSR were the same price and > weight I would probably go IFG since they would look cooler on my black car. > > I like to hear what has broken and how though... it's kinda fun to read. :) > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Fanning [mailto:pfanning@premier1.net] > Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:17 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels > > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 18:15:16 -0800 > From: Peter Fanning <pfanning@premier1.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: track wheels > > I know the IFG's are a one piece hot forged wheel. I don't know if the > SSR's are fully forged or part forged or only kinda forged. There are > several BBS wheels where one part is forged, the other is not. Please > refer to my "may". > > Peter Fanning > > At 04:24 PM 3/26/2001 -0500, Dave Spragg wrote: > >What would make you think they might not be as strong? They might be > >stronger. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************************** > Digest Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************** > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#8. M3s and trailer hitches - from John Demartino US-Valencia
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:58:56 +0200 From: John Demartino US-Valencia <j.demartino@us.qiagen.com> Subject: M3s and trailer hitches Does anyone out there have a trailer hitch on your E36 M3? If yes, where did you get it? What did it cost? What was involved in the installation? What is the towing capacity? Would your recommend it/do it again? Thanks, John > John C. DeMartino Product Manager QIAGEN Inc 28159 Ave Stanford Valencia, CA 91355 800-426-8157 x23507 j.demartino@us.qiagen.com
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#9. Bye Everyone!!! - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 01:15:02 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Bye Everyone!!! Just wanted to say goodbye to everyone. I am leaving for my trip to Europe tomorrow and will removing myself from the BMW lists. Talk to you guys when I get back! ENJOY YOUR CARS!!!! Mark 95 ///M3 91 GTI 16v 88 Chevy CK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#10. RE: rear strut brace questions - from S Lafredo
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 20:37:36 -0500 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> Subject: RE: rear strut brace questions On 3/27/01 at 4:06 PM, Wentz, Don <don.wentz@intel.com> wrote: : There are no STRUTS at the rear, only shocks and springs. Semantics. : And, unlike the front strut where significant side and braking loads : must get transmitted to the top of the struts, there are no lateral : loads transmitted thru the shocks, only vertical. Exercise for the readers: Bolt rear "shock" tower bar in your car (FWIW, I have a Dinan) and then jack up one side just a little. Now try to take off the bar. Hopefully, your car would not see this much flex on the street but the rear DOES move. Just my opinion and like everyone else I have one too ;) S This reminds me of the arguments everyone had about "strut"tower bars being eye candy. Well guess what everyone was wrong.