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#1. BMP coilovers...? - from Juan Rico
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:28:47 -0800 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: BMP coilovers...? List, Does anybody have any experience with these? The price seems unbeatable. BMP has them advertised at $1,200. According to BMP this kit is stiffer than stock, but nowhere near as stiff as the Eibach/H&R with Bislteins setup. For $1,300 you can get the coilovers with Koni adjustable shocks! This would also eliminate all the strut cutting and rebuilding involved with Konis. I would assume BMP sells good quality stuff. Am I missing something here...? To redo my fatigued stock suspension with a new stock setup I'm already looking at $700 for four new stock shocks, plus $500 for some Eurosprings, so it's going to cost me pretty much the same... Juan.
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#2. RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:38:33 -0500 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats Seth Thomas [mailto:porsche993@mindspring.com] wrote: > > Marc is correct here in that all the LTWs came with fold down > rear seats. > Why this is I don't know but I don't think that rigidity is a > problem here. > But what is funny to me is that they did not use the 4 door > model as they are a lot more rigid than the coupes. > > Seth Thomas > www.m3ltw.com Seth, There was a debate on this subject a while back. The consensus was that 4 smaller holes (4 doors) effect rigidity more than 2 bigger ones (coupes). I saved the quote but not the author: > ******************************** > Here you go (from Bimmer Mag 12/98): > > Dynamic stiffness > > E46/4 29.8 hz > M coupe 29.2 > E36/2 29.2 > E39 29.0 > E36/4 28.3 > M roadster 18.4 > E36 cabrio 16.6 alex f
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#3. RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:59:55 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats But if you will notice, all the race teams are using the 4 door E36 chassis. I have heard that the reason this is, is that the 4 door's chassis is stiffer due to the pillar in between the doors. The coupe does not have this and is said to be weaker. This is just what I have been told by some good sources but I don't know if they have looked at any numbers on the cars. Another thing is that I doubt the numbers they quoted as true. Reason being is that I don't think it is possible for the E36 coupe to be as stiff as the Mcoupe. Was the Mcoupe not stated as being stiffer than or had better chassis rigidity than the E36 coupe? I thought I read this somewhere. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Fadeev, Alex [mailto:alex.fadeev@verizon.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:39 PM To: 'Seth Thomas'; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats Seth Thomas [mailto:porsche993@mindspring.com] wrote: > > Marc is correct here in that all the LTWs came with fold down > rear seats. > Why this is I don't know but I don't think that rigidity is a > problem here. > But what is funny to me is that they did not use the 4 door > model as they are a lot more rigid than the coupes. > > Seth Thomas > www.m3ltw.com Seth, There was a debate on this subject a while back. The consensus was that 4 smaller holes (4 doors) effect rigidity more than 2 bigger ones (coupes). I saved the quote but not the author: > ******************************** > Here you go (from Bimmer Mag 12/98): > > Dynamic stiffness > > E46/4 29.8 hz > M coupe 29.2 > E36/2 29.2 > E39 29.0 > E36/4 28.3 > M roadster 18.4 > E36 cabrio 16.6 alex f
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#4. RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:06:29 -0600 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats Seth Thomas [mailto:porsche993@mindspring.com] wrote: > > But if you will notice, all the race teams are using the 4 > door E36 chassis. I though PTG was running 2 doors and only ran the third car as a 4 door in '98 as a nod to NA marketing? E46s cars they are running now are obviously 2 doors, but they removed all E36 pics from ptgracing.com, so I can't be certain. > I have heard that the reason this is, is that the 4 door's > chassis is stiffer due to the pillar in between the doors. The > coupe does not have this and is said to be weaker. This is just > what I have been told by some good sources but I don't know if > they have looked at any numbers on the cars. Another thing is > that I doubt the numbers they quoted as true. Reason being is > that I don't think it is possible for the E36 coupe to be as > stiff as the Mcoupe. Was the Mcoupe not stated as being stiffer > than or had better chassis rigidity than the E36 coupe? I thought > I read this somewhere. Another thing is the numbers below apply only to stock tubs. God only knows what their rigidity is after you weld in the roll cage and stiffen the body in all other ways. By that time a 4 door could well be stiffer than a 2 door... alex f > -----Original Message----- > From: Fadeev, Alex [mailto:alex.fadeev@verizon.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:39 PM > To: 'Seth Thomas'; E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] LTWs and fold down seats > > > Seth Thomas [mailto:porsche993@mindspring.com] wrote: > > > > Marc is correct here in that all the LTWs came with fold down > > rear seats. > > Why this is I don't know but I don't think that rigidity is a > > problem here. > > But what is funny to me is that they did not use the 4 door > > model as they are a lot more rigid than the coupes. > > > > Seth Thomas > > www.m3ltw.com > > Seth, > There was a debate on this subject a while back. The consensus > was that 4 smaller holes (4 doors) effect rigidity more than 2 > bigger ones (coupes). I saved the quote but not the author: > > > ******************************** > > Here you go (from Bimmer Mag 12/98): > > > > Dynamic stiffness > > > > E46/4 29.8 hz > > M coupe 29.2 > > E36/2 29.2 > > E39 29.0 > > E36/4 28.3 > > M roadster 18.4 > > E36 cabrio 16.6 > > alex f > >
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#5. RE: [E36M3] New struts and bearing swap? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:09:37 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] New struts and bearing swap? Magnus, Where did you find the adjustable bolt? This could be a hot item for those trying to get more camber or solve rubbing problems.. -Matt > But good news ahead, I ordered adjutable excentric > bolts for the upper mount > between spindle and strut tower. Will make it > possible to adjust to slightly > less negative camber. And to make it more even > between L and R too. > > > /Magnus Thomé __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text
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#6. Re:Koni Coilovers - anyone have experience? - from BobTunnell@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:10:06 EST From: BobTunnell@aol.com Subject: Re:Koni Coilovers - anyone have experience? In a message dated 3/28/01 11:04:05 AM, scott@ditherdog.com writes: >Also, if someone has a Koni coilover kit >somewhere in new england, the bay area, or around L.A., can I cop a ride >sometime in the next couple of months? Call Jim Leithauser at 818-888-8904 (ProParts West in Canoga Park). He's got them on his 99 M3. He's in Phoenix right now for an SCCA National, but will be back in the shop Monday. --BT
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#7. RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:15:03 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: RE: Religious E46 M3 Experience It's not impossible for an 18 yr old to legally buy a $50K M3 but I think he would need help. It takes more than a car to live. 18 yr old could probably make the car payments/lease on his own but what about the other expenses in life? He is probably living at home with parents or parents are paying for his college living expenses. I doubt he is making $1,000/month apartment rent payments or $1,500/month house payments. And for auto insurance, I am sure he is still on his parents policy. Add up everything it takes to live: rent/mortgage, insurance, food, clothes, utilites, etc. Heck, I'll bet his mother still washes his clothes! ;-) I don't think an 18 yr old would have the $60K (minimum) annual income needed to pay for all of his expenses. I could see him affording just the car. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 [Lived at home with my parents for a year after college and saved up money for a new car]
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#8. RE: [E36M3] New struts and bearing swap? - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:34:39 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] New struts and bearing swap? A local BMW repair shop (here in Stockholm Sweden) where the owner is quite involved in racing cars. I'll check on where he gets them from and get back to the list :-) /Magnus Thomé > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Henson [mailto:hensonator@yahoo.com] > Sent: den 29 mars 2001 00:10 > To: Magnus_Thomé; E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] New struts and bearing swap? > > > Magnus, > Where did you find the adjustable bolt? This could be > a hot item for those trying to get more camber or > solve rubbing problems.. > -Matt > > > > But good news ahead, I ordered adjutable excentric > > bolts for the upper mount > > between spindle and strut tower. Will make it > > possible to adjust to slightly > > less negative camber. And to make it more even > > between L and R too. > > > > > > /Magnus Thomé > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text >
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#9. I am going to St Louis Gateway Tech - from TFRM3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:35:34 EST From: TFRM3@aol.com Subject: I am going to St Louis Gateway Tech I have been conned into speaking at Gateway Tech. Anything I should know? Any particular suspension subjects I should speak about that might not be so obvious? Reply privately. Jay Morris, Ground Control Suspension TFRM3@aol.com Waiting for a Daytona Violet e46 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower brace - part 2 - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 14:52:51 -0800 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower brace - part 2 But Bob --- YOU advertise in your signature that you are AS!!!!! Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mdriver13@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower brace - part 2 | Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:52:09 EST | From: Mdriver13@aol.com | Subject: Re: [E36M3] rear shock tower brace - part 2 | | In a message dated 3/28/01 12:07:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, | akyol@mac.com | writes: | | | | | I am sure that you would not care, but I believe that would be illegal | in SCCA ;-) | | | | Bora, | | I believe strut braces (front/rear) are legal in BSP. Am I missing | something??? | | Bob Gill | 97 ///M3 coupe | Philly Region SCCA | AS Champion 1997 & 2000 | #13 BSP 2001 | | | ************************************************************* | List Commands | UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. | DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. | GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). | | To issue a command/request to the server: | Send a message with the command you wish executed as the | subject of the message. | ************************************************************* | | |
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#11. SmarTire wireless wheel temp/pressure measure gear - from =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?=
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:58:59 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: SmarTire wireless wheel temp/pressure measure gear I drive on Pirellis PZero-C R-type tires 245/35 18. On street I have 2,6 kg pressure but when I get to the track I've now learnt (from Pirelli!) to lower the cold tire pressure to somewhere of the neighbourhood of 2,1 kg and then heat them slowly on the track for a couple of laps. When hot they end up around 2,7 kg. But I've heard some Porsche drivers starting at 1,6 kg cold ending up at somewhere around 2,2 or so and being very happy with them... IMO it's great fun learning and experimenting!! What kind of traction do I get? How is the balance of the car? Adjust front pressure? Or at the rear? And so on... So every track event I goto I fiddle around with my little tire pressure meter and (since I don't have a pyrometer) use my own hands checking the level and eveness of temperature across the tires. Get out of the car, check the first wheel's tire temp's... then the rest of the tires. Then go back to the first one, take the hat off the valve, measure, put the hat back, goto the next wheel... do it all again and again. Go drive for a while... and repeat above procedure again. I'm definitely not complaining! I'm just in a learning process and I do enjoy that! But what if I had the Smartire gear? It would get a bit easier wouldn't it? Ok, so I would still have to go around the car to check eveness of the tire temp's across the wheel. But Smartire does give me the temperature of the air inside each wheel so it gives me a basic indication on where I'm at... plus of course the pressure of each wheel. Must say I'm tempted... IMO the price is right too (checked tireack: $219) Anyway, has anybody tried the Smartire system??? The sensors I have to mount inside the wheels look a bit big? I'm a bit worried about them... Any pros and cons???????? THX!!!!! /Magnus Thomé