E36M3 #1146

Sunday, April 08, 2001 21:50:35

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Wheel Hanger Tool - from Steve D'Gerolamo
#2. Conversion to HK sound system - from Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa
#3. 8.5 inch front wheels - from Sean Ganess
#4. Eibach Swaybars - from Ron Buchalski
#5. RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Matt Malfa
#6. Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Peter H Reinhart
#7. Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Tom Tice
#8. Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Reza Pourkhomami
#9. Re: Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Chris Teague
#10. RE: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Dave Spragg

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#1. Wheel Hanger Tool - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:58:04 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Wheel Hanger Tool For you guys using spacers, here's some pictures of the wheel hanger tool being used. You can also make your own from a long 12x1.5 bolt with a little machining remove the threads. See http://www.ultimategarage.com/whlhgr.html . SD ================================== Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage - Tel 201-262-0412

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#2. Conversion to HK sound system - from Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa <jbruce@stanford.edu> Subject: Conversion to HK sound system Hi guys, I'm finally getting fed up with the terrible stock '95 M3 sound system. I've heard the HK system in a friends '97 M3 and that seems like a significant improvement. I've found a deal where I could pick up the HK amp and speakers for $300. Now my question is, has anyone done this conversion? Do I have to totally rewire the car? Will the this amp and speakers work with an aftermarket head unit? My other alternative is to drop about $1500-2000 an aftermaket system with MB Quarts, an amp and a head unit. I'm sure it would sound much better but I would really rather spend that kind of money on tack time, and performance mods. Does anyone in the Silicon Valley area have an MB Quart set-up I could listen to for comparison? Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '95 M3 with H&R coilovers, BBS RCs and a terrible sound system

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#3. 8.5 inch front wheels - from Sean Ganess
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:51:30 -0400 From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> Subject: 8.5 inch front wheels Anyone here running Fikse (or any 37.7mm offset) 8.5 inch wheels up front? Are you using spacers and if so, what brand?

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#4. Eibach Swaybars - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 01:03:31 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Eibach Swaybars Today was a nice day, so I decided to install the Eibach swaybars that I purchased late last year (GP). The stock front bar was easily removed, and the Eibach front bar was a breeze to install. The stock rear bar was a bit of a PITA to remove, because of the tight clearance on the left side. When I went to install the Eibach rear bar, I discovered that they shipped an "incorrect" swaybar link. The links are BMW parts, but they are supposed to be modified with a metal sleeve inserted in the end that's normally rubber. A large bolt passes through this end and attaches to the end of the swaybar. Well, one link is correct, but the other link is a standard (non-modified) BMW link. Now my car sits in the garage, with one swaybar end waiting to be attached. :-( Did anyone other participants in the Group Purchase have a similar experience? I'll be contacting Top Notch in the morning.... -rb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#5. RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Matt Malfa
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:04:51 -0400 From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels 17 x 8.5 et37.5 FM-10's with 245/40-17 S02's, no spacers, no fitment problems. - -Matt ---- Original Message ---- From: Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net To: e36m3@bmw-m.net, Subject: RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:59:46 -0600 >Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:51:30 -0400 >From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> >Subject: 8.5 inch front wheels > >Anyone here running Fikse (or any 37.7mm offset) 8.5 inch wheels up >front? Are you using spacers and if so, what brand?

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#6. Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Peter H Reinhart
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Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:17:55 -0400 From: Peter H Reinhart <reinhart@neuro.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels At 06:59 PM 4/8/2001 -0600, Sean Ganess wrote: >Anyone here running Fikse (or any 37.7mm offset) 8.5 inch wheels up >front? Are you using spacers and if so, what brand? Running Fikse Mach 5s with Kumho 245x45x17s without any problems up front. Rear fenders needed mild rolling. Cheers, Peter Reinhart - http://www.neuro.duke.edu/phr/m3.html BMWCCA, PCA, NASA '98 M3/4

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#7. Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Tom Tice
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:34:26 -0400 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? Interesting, my car has the developed the same symptom after a few weeks (and a driver school) with the new Eibachs. It rattles over any small bump - especially one affecting only one side of the car so I was suspecting the sway bar links. This weekend I jacked it up and pushed and pulled on everything in the front suspension but nothing really seems loose. However, if I pound the sway bar with the heel of my hand, I can induce a similar sound. The links appear tight and secure. I understand the front sway bar links are a common item to fail but I thought it would be a catastrophic failure. Is this just the first sign. Any recommendations on an improved replacement? I have seen the plans/instructions by Ben Liaw for building your own on the UUC site (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ -click on Tech Tips - then sway bar links) - cost wise is that worth the effort versus buying someone else's pre-assembled? FWIW, my car is a '98 with just over 36K miles. Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '99 540/6 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Teague [mailto:cteague@home.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:20 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower > > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:18:56 -0700 > From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower > > A common rattle from the front is the sway bar > links. I was having the front end rattle, even after > tightning the sway bar links. I replaced them last > weekend, and the rattle is gone. I also have a > 97 M3/4, with less that 36K miles. > > If you still think it is the shock tower, check the 3 small > bolts under the hood holding the strut in place, then > see if the shock bolt is loose. >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels - from Reza Pourkhomami
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:29:04 -0400 From: "Reza Pourkhomami" <rpourkho@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels 17 x 9 Fikse FM-5's with 245/40-17 BFG R1's, 5mm H&R spacers from TMS. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 21:04:51 -0400 > From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels > > 17 x 8.5 et37.5 FM-10's with 245/40-17 S02's, no spacers, no fitment > problems. > > - -Matt > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net > To: e36m3@bmw-m.net, > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 8.5 inch front wheels > Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 18:59:46 -0600 > > >Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:51:30 -0400 > >From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> > >Subject: 8.5 inch front wheels > > > >Anyone here running Fikse (or any 37.7mm offset) 8.5 inch wheels up > >front? Are you using spacers and if so, what brand? > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >

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#9. Re:  Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Chris Teague
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:45:58 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? Tom, My 97 had sway bar links that were also tight, but still rattle when I went over bumps. When I removed them, the looked OK, but the ball joints were very easy to rotate. I replaced them with the Ground Control ones, and the worked fine. No more rattles, and the ground control part looks to be well made, and worth the $99. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> To: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:34 PM Subject: Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? > Interesting, my car has the developed the same symptom after a few weeks > (and a driver school) with the new Eibachs. It rattles over any small > bump - especially one affecting only one side of the car so I was suspecting > the sway bar links. > > This weekend I jacked it up and pushed and pulled on everything in the front > suspension but nothing really seems loose. However, if I pound the sway bar > with the heel of my hand, I can induce a similar sound. > > The links appear tight and secure. I understand the front sway bar links > are a common item to fail but I thought it would be a catastrophic failure. > Is this just the first sign. > > Any recommendations on an improved replacement? I have seen the > plans/instructions by Ben Liaw for building your own on the UUC site > (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ -click on Tech Tips - then sway bar links) - > cost wise is that worth the effort versus buying someone else's > pre-assembled? > > FWIW, my car is a '98 with just over 36K miles. > > Tom Tice > '98 M3/4 > '99 540/6

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:49:22 -0400 From: "Dave Spragg" <dspragg@mediaone.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? Try re-torquing the nuts and end link dogbone ones on the front sway. Mine did that after the sway bar install and retorquing fixxed it up but then it happened again. This time I took the bolts out and cleaned them, applied a little locktite and then put a dollop of silicone on each one (track day with street motorcycles trick for drain plug). They have been fine for 10k miles now. Dave Spragg dave@spragg.com Natick, MA 99 M3 Sharked 92 330is Sharked and Supercharged (undergoing surgery) -----Original Message----- From: Tom Tice [mailto:tetice@triad.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:40 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:34:26 -0400 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Rattle from shock tower - Sway Bar Links? Interesting, my car has the developed the same symptom after a few weeks (and a driver school) with the new Eibachs. It rattles over any small bump - especially one affecting only one side of the car so I was suspecting the sway bar links. This weekend I jacked it up and pushed and pulled on everything in the front suspension but nothing really seems loose. However, if I pound the sway bar with the heel of my hand, I can induce a similar sound. The links appear tight and secure. I understand the front sway bar links are a common item to fail but I thought it would be a catastrophic failure. Is this just the first sign. Any recommendations on an improved replacement? I have seen the plans/instructions by Ben Liaw for building your own on the UUC site (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ -click on Tech Tips - then sway bar links) - cost wise is that worth the effort versus buying someone else's pre-assembled? FWIW, my car is a '98 with just over 36K miles. Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '99 540/6 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Teague [mailto:cteague@home.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 7:20 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower > > > Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:18:56 -0700 > From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rattle from shock tower > > A common rattle from the front is the sway bar > links. I was having the front end rattle, even after > tightning the sway bar links. I replaced them last > weekend, and the rattle is gone. I also have a > 97 M3/4, with less that 36K miles. > > If you still think it is the shock tower, check the 3 small > bolts under the hood holding the strut in place, then > see if the shock bolt is loose. > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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