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#1. Re: [E36M3] Which direction do your rotor vents go? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:10:20 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Which direction do your rotor vents go? Yes, Peter, this does indeed seem to be the way it works.....When I first considered it, I thought it made sense that the vents should used their Scoop advantage to Scoop into the oncoming air, ie, to bite into it, and force it through the rotors, in the way a paddle wheel 'scoops' into the water.... But clearly, this is NOT how it works....Instead, they follow the scheme of gas slots, where the air is forced centrifugally from the inside center out the tops of the vents....Live and Loin! _____________________ Paul Elliott '99 Alpine White M3 <30000 mi Forged M dbl-spokes; Rotex pads; Dinan Stage II Supercharger; Stygar Short Shift kit and Clutch Stop; Skaggs Pedals; X-brace; Sound by Kenwood Excelon, Polk, JL Audio -----Original Message----- From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> To: Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com>; E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Which direction do your rotor vents go? >on 4/11/01 5:29 PM, Paul Elliott at pelliott@rcn.com wrote: > >> However, when I picked up my car, I found that the vents were facing >> Backwards which at first I thought was a mistake, since I couldnt see how >> the air could possibly enter the rotors this way... > >I'm a creative guy, not by any stretch of the imagination an engineer, but >having the vents "backwards" seems to make sense. > >Airflow starts at the center of the rotors, with centrifugal force spinning >the air outwards. With the vanes facing backwards, the air exiting will go >out in the opposite direction that rotors is spinning. That'll let the air >out smoother and faster. > >-p > > >
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#2. Supersprint exhaust feedback wanted - from Chris Casey
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:22:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Casey <ccasey1@yahoo.com> Subject: Supersprint exhaust feedback wanted Hi Folks, I'm wondering if anyone has any experiences (positive or negative) with Supersprint exhausts to share. I've found a used one for $400. Any installation / quality / volume concerns? Thanks, Chris soon to be louder - 99 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#3. Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from ERogers005@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:40:47 EDT From: ERogers005@aol.com Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 I'll be there. This will be the first time I've driven Buttonwillow. Is anyone aware of a track primer for this track? If so .. can you point me to it please. Thanks Ed Rogers 95 M3 Cosmos Black >>>>> In a message dated 4/11/01 7:23:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 Anyone on the list going to the NASA-SoCal/Open Track HPDE on April 21-22? I'll be there.
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#4. Re: Hawk Brake Pad Supplier - from kmcleaster@iquest.net
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:43:20 -0500 From: kmcleaster@iquest.net Subject: Re: Hawk Brake Pad Supplier At 11:59 AM 4/11/01, you wrote: >Subject: Hawk Brake Pad Supplier > >Hi Folks - > >TC Kline seems a bit busy these days, and I'm trying to get some Hawk >Blues (fronts) for this weekend. Anyone have a suggestion of I just got a Racer Parts Wholesale (not to be confused with Racer Wholesale) catalog yesterday and they carry Hawks. www.racerpartswholesale.com 800-397-7815 - Located in Indianapolis. Kevin D. McLeaster WB9HMI '95 M3 Arctic Silver
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#5. new brakes installed - review (long) - from NickG
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Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 23:05:43 -0500 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: new brakes installed - review (long) Last week I installed new brakes (using OEM replacement parts) on my '95 M3. All I can say is WOW! So that's what an M3 is suppose to brake like! Some background..... A couple years ago I changed the rotors and pads all around: Euro front rotors, new stock BMW rear rotors, and PBR Deluxe pads all around. The braking was alright, but the pads squealled like crazy. I installed some anti-squeal shims on the pads, and that took care of the noise (for the moment). After a few months, I realized that the braking really wasn't that good. Pedal travel was long, and the brakes really didn't grab all that well. So, I decided to reinstall some stock Jurid pads up front (keeping the Deluxe rear pads). Braking was better, but shortly thereafter, the front rotors warped. I couldn't believe it; Euro floating rotors warping on a street driven car?? Never heard of that...Plus, the rear pads started squealling again when cold. So I finally got around to redoing the brakes again. This time, I installed Brembo stock replacement front rotors, kept the current rear rotors (they looked unused, more on that later), and used Pagid OEM replacement pads all around. The brakes are now awesome for a street car. Very responsive, excellent grip, short pedal travel, and no squeal whatsoever. Now this is what an M3 is suppose to brake like. It has enough force to make you dizzy during maximum 60-0mph braking! Some observations: a) PBR Deluxe pads DO NOT belong on an M3. No way, no how! b) brake dust - the Pagid pads dust less than the stock Jurids, but more than the Deluxes. Overall, a good compromise. c) the Brembo rotors were DEAD PERFECT as far as runout is concerned. My micrometer didn't even move .001" when I measured them. d) do not mix pad compounds front and rear unless you know what you're doing (I obviously didn't). The reason I didn't change my rear rotors this time was because, even after 2 years, they still looked like new. They had no wear at all, not even shiny. Actually, that's what was strange. The rotors always had a dull look to them. I realized that the rear brakes really weren't doing anything, and the fronts were doing all the braking; that must have been why the floating front rotors warped. I attribute it to using grippy front pads (the Jurids) and crappy rear pads (the Deluxe). Overall, I give these components 2 thumbs up. The Brembo rotors appear to be excellent quality pieces, and the Pagid pads perform great on the street (track and autocross I don't know though). Nick '95 M3 turbo
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from D Seeley
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:22:36 -0800 From: D Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 I'll be there for my first Club Race, assuming I get through Bill Arnold's "fix it or stay home" list... I'm aiming for an early Fri. afternoon start, Hwy 580 to 5, and would welcome some company on my leisurely drive with the tow rig. Hey, you weren't going to drive over the legal limit, anyway, right? <g> Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido," JP #41 95 330isA, super-commuter 91 Dodge Ram Turbo Diesel > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 17:05:43 -0700 > From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> > Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 > > > Anyone on the list going to the NASA-SoCal/Open Track HPDE on April 21-22? > I'll be there. > > -kit, who guesses that he lied about not tracking the M3 anymore... :) > > 97 m3/4 with stuff >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from Jim Files
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:47:04 -0700 From: Jim Files <jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 Ed, et al, http://www.trackracers.org/tracks/buttonwillow/index.html - text overview and some photos http://www.calclub.com/buttonwi.htm - general track info http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/trackconfigs1.htm - neat, but no real value added If you have the bandwidth, videos to see lines and what not... Just watched Ryan's full lap, now I want to go... http://teamvenomracing.com/pages/wcss-vid1.htm http://www.turnfast.com/trackguides/ - CCW configuration 13 description and video Of course, since they're planning on either configuration 13 or 1 clockwise, the ccw description isn't as useful... This was more useful two weeks ago before San Diego's event. (Yes Kit, I'm stealing these from recent messages on the trackracers mailing list.) Nothing new from me on this topic; I haven't driven Buttonwillow clockwise since March of 2000. Anyone have other links to add to the collection? Jim At 4/11/2001 07:49 PM, ERogers005@aol.com wrote: >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:40:47 EDT >From: ERogers005@aol.com >Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 > >I'll be there. This will be the first time I've driven Buttonwillow. Is >anyone aware of a track primer for this track? If so .. can you point me >to >it please. Thanks > >Ed Rogers >95 M3 Cosmos Black -- ICQ:27292190 h mailto:jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu h mailto:jfiles@acm.org w mailto:jfiles@aseg.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from D Seeley
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:14:03 -0800 From: D Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 I thought they were running ccw - that's why I went to the SD school. Wait, no, I went to pit-bunny for the SoCal listers, and they accidentally let me out on the track. :) Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido," JP #41 95 330isA, super-commuter > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:47:04 -0700 > From: Jim Files <jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 > > Ed, et al, > > http://www.trackracers.org/tracks/buttonwillow/index.html - text overview > and some photos > http://www.calclub.com/buttonwi.htm - general track info > http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/trackconfigs1.htm - neat, but no real > value added > > If you have the bandwidth, videos to see lines and what not... Just watched > Ryan's full lap, now I want to go... > http://teamvenomracing.com/pages/wcss-vid1.htm > > http://www.turnfast.com/trackguides/ - CCW configuration 13 description and > video > Of course, since they're planning on either configuration 13 or 1 > clockwise, the ccw description isn't as useful... This was more useful two > weeks ago before San Diego's event. > > (Yes Kit, I'm stealing these from recent messages on the trackracers > mailing list.) > > Nothing new from me on this topic; I haven't driven Buttonwillow clockwise > since March of 2000. > > Anyone have other links to add to the collection? > > Jim > > At 4/11/2001 07:49 PM, ERogers005@aol.com wrote: >> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:40:47 EDT >> From: ERogers005@aol.com >> Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 >> >> I'll be there. This will be the first time I've driven Buttonwillow. Is >> anyone aware of a track primer for this track? If so .. can you point me >> to >> it please. Thanks >> >> Ed Rogers >> 95 M3 Cosmos Black > > -- > ICQ:27292190 > h mailto:jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu > h mailto:jfiles@acm.org > w mailto:jfiles@aseg.com > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from Scott Smith
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:14:51 -0700 From: Scott Smith <ssmith@akamai.com> Subject: Re: Buttonwillow April 21-22 > Anyone on the list going to the NASA-SoCal/Open Track HPDE on April 21-22? > I'll be there. yup. I'll be in HPDE in a 96 911 Turbo. OBMWC: I was signed up for the race school in my E36M3, but since it got rear ended, I had to back out. > -kit, who guesses that he lied about not tracking the M3 anymore... :) yeah, I did too :-) there's just something about m3's.... Scott '96 911 Turbo -- new rear tires being mounted '97 M3 -- damage to the back why do they require so much attention?!?!
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 - from Jim Powell
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:38:45 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 I'll confirm that. Jim Stirring the pot after 3 days in Tucson D Seeley wrote: > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:14:03 -0800 > From: D Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 > > I thought they were running ccw - that's why I went to the SD school. > Wait, no, I went to pit-bunny for the SoCal listers, and they accidentally > let me out on the track. :) > > Donna > ------- > 88 M3, "Guido," JP #41 > 95 330isA, super-commuter > > > > > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:47:04 -0700 > > From: Jim Files <jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Buttonwillow April 21-22 > > > > Ed, et al, > > > > http://www.trackracers.org/tracks/buttonwillow/index.html - text overview > > and some photos > > http://www.calclub.com/buttonwi.htm - general track info > > http://www.buttonwillowraceway.com/trackconfigs1.htm - neat, but no real > > value added > > > > If you have the bandwidth, videos to see lines and what not... Just watched > > Ryan's full lap, now I want to go... > > http://teamvenomracing.com/pages/wcss-vid1.htm > > > > http://www.turnfast.com/trackguides/ - CCW configuration 13 description and > > video > > Of course, since they're planning on either configuration 13 or 1 > > clockwise, the ccw description isn't as useful... This was more useful two > > weeks ago before San Diego's event. > > > > (Yes Kit, I'm stealing these from recent messages on the trackracers > > mailing list.) > > > > Nothing new from me on this topic; I haven't driven Buttonwillow clockwise > > since March of 2000. > > > > Anyone have other links to add to the collection? > > > > Jim > > > > At 4/11/2001 07:49 PM, ERogers005@aol.com wrote: > >> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:40:47 EDT > >> From: ERogers005@aol.com > >> Subject: Buttonwillow April 21-22 > >> > >> I'll be there. This will be the first time I've driven Buttonwillow. Is > >> anyone aware of a track primer for this track? If so .. can you point me > >> to > >> it please. Thanks > >> > >> Ed Rogers > >> 95 M3 Cosmos Black > > > > -- > > ICQ:27292190 > > h mailto:jfiles@alumni.ucsd.edu > > h mailto:jfiles@acm.org > > w mailto:jfiles@aseg.com > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************