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#1. RE: [E36M3] Dreaded Understeer - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:18:37 -0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Dreaded Understeer Magnus, you may be right about the bars. My stock car had too much lean. so I went with the RD bars and camber bolts. The understeer problem is now noticable. Stock shocks and springs (US Springs softer than yours). I dont want to jump the gun and go with the shocks/springs setup unless I can atleast reduce some understeer. IT PLOWS. I have to lift, snap the wheel more towards the direction of the turn and pound the throttle to get the rear out and it catches back in. Ahmad Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:50:54 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Thom=E9?= <magnus.thome@envox.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Dreaded Understeer I'm very surprised! My -96 M3/4 3.2 has a MK Motorsport chassie which is extremely stiff in the front and way softer in the back. I run 245 PZero-C all around on 8,5x18. With stock wheel alignment it understeered slightly in slower to mid speed corners but actually got a bit nervous in the back at high speed corners. There's no added aerodynamics on the car... Then I did the strut mount swap in the front to add more camber. Now the car has tremendous bite in turn in, no understeer at all if not pushed way way to hard. The car actually lifts the inner front wheel in turns... but gorgeously balanced all the same. MK did a good job! The only downside is some wearing of the inner edge of the front wheel LEAST busy on the track, the one mostly in the air! So, I'm more than surprised hearing about your problems. Do you have stock shocks and springs? What are the sway bars? To me it sounds you must have front/rear swaybars not matched to one another. Or mismatched front and rear shocks/springs. Very odd indeed. Just my two öre (don't have cents in Sweden ;-) /Magnus Thomé _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#2. Re: Dreaded Understeer - from Dan Snyder
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:04:46 -0400 From: "Dan Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: Dreaded Understeer Ahmed- A few considerations, as I race a 325 with Hoosiers and have no understeer problems. 1) You have too little neg. camber for Hoosiers. They like (REQUIRE) 3-4 degrees! When you toasted your tire, was the wear greatest on the inside? 2) Get a tire pyrometer (or borrow one). This is critical to adjusting both camber and tire pressure. The guy who recommended 45 is smoking crack. That is a good HOT temp, (I try for 43) but not a cold temp. I start out (cold) at 35/33 front/rear. 3) Enter the corner slower. You may (note the word "may") be entering too hot, in which case ANY tire will understeer. OR, try using a little trailbraking to help turn-in. (I assume no liability for your spin/crash for this advice, however, as trailbraking is an advanced skill) 4) Check your toe. Toe is critical to turn-in. My front toe is actually set OUT (1/16") with the rear at 1/8" IN. This is more unstable at high speeds (car likes to weave spontaneously, and will climb ruts), but is great for a race car. Dan Snyder > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:34:10 -0000 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: Dreaded Understeer > > How do I remove this NASTY understeer from my 98? I am running > 1) Camber -2.2 > 2) 17*8 with 245 Hoosiers all around > 3) X-Brace > 4) RD Swaybars with front full soft and rear full stiff > > Its sooo annoying becuase the car wont toss around. I shot my front left > tire at Lime Rock in 3 sessions. Yes some will say drive slower but even > climbing up the uphill the car would understeer. It is extremely frustrating > and I want to neurtralize the car and have it to be a little bit more tail > happy so I can drift it around than just have it plow plow plow like a pig. > Any suggestions? > Thanks in advance > > Ahmad > 98/4 > > PS: for street, I have no problems its only the track where this thing is > bothering the hell out of me. Also I run on street and a reasonable camber > setting needs to be used as to not kill those tires in <3000 miles.
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#3.M3 exhaust - from JEFFHARKER@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 14:04:28 EDT From: JEFFHARKER@aol.com Subject: <FS> M3 exhaust Early Dinan cat back unit; factory muffler internally modified (was insanely expensive when new). Has interesting history; was on tc kline's SCCA Runoffs winning car. Also have "matching" Dinan chip for stock HFM. $250 gets it all, pick up in Indy or will split reasonable driving distance. You pay shipping from 46220, but this sucka' is heavy. Reply off list please. --jeff Hoosier Chapter (thanks to everybody who attended the Putnam Park school last weekend, see you at IRP Nov 3-4)
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#4. 2001 BMW Komen Breast Cancer Foundation Drive - DRIVERS WANTED! - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:58:45 -0700 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: 2001 BMW Komen Breast Cancer Foundation Drive - DRIVERS WANTED! see contact information below. do NOT contact me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Event: 10 Transport/Volunteer Drivers needed for each dealership for The Susan G. Komen Breast Foundation: 2001 BMW Drive. The Cars: We will have 18 vehicles: Z3 2.5 manual Z3 2.5 automatic Z3 3.0 automatic Z3 coupe 3.0 Automatic 325iA 325xi manual 325xiA 325xiA sport wagon 330iA 330i manual 330CiA convertible 530iA sedan 525i manual 525iA sport wagon 540iA sport wagon X5 4.4iA X5 3.0iA 740i 750iL The Dates: Bell BMW/Newton, NJ Saturday, May 19th Gearhart BMW/Denville, NJ Sunday, May 20th Paul Miller/Wayne, NJ Monday, May 21st Hunterdon BMW/Lebanon, NJ Tuesday, May 22nd JMK Auto Sales/Springfield, NJ Wednesday, May 23rd Prestige BMW/Ramsey, NJ Wednesday, May 30th Wide World of Cars/Spring Valley, NY Thursday, May 31st Park Ave. BMW/Maywood, NJ Friday, June 1st (QUOTA FILLED-ACCEPTING STAND-BY's ONLY) DiFeo BMW/Tenafly, NJ Saturday, June 2nd The Purpose For Every Mile Driven BMW matches $1.00. Come and participate and experience what TRANSPORTING a FLEET of 18 BMW Cars is all about. Share the commraderie among fellow car enthusiasts and Breast Cancer Survivors, which are driven for a cause. Meet the BMW Support Team that guides and navigates us thru our orientation, before we set out to hug the apexes in one smooth and fluid line. Learn first hand from experienced convoyers, what it's all about. Share the communication that transpires with Walkie-Talkies, which are assigned to Team Players, as we strive to reach our designated dealership before SunRise. Since 1997 BMW has contributed $ 4 Million to help fight and erradicate breast cancer. Together we can all help to make a difference and to reach the goal, which will make a difference in 2001. Note: Must be a licensed Driver 25 years or older for the M cars and 7 Series. 21 years or older for others. CONTACT: Roxana Melnitschenko at PrimaM3@excite.com or 201-410-8368
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#5. SMG more info - from Bob Weber
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:44:17 -0500 From: Bob Weber <bobweber@bellsouth.net> Subject: SMG more info Thanks to Justin Jerry for pointing out this BMW page about the SMG http://www.bmw.com/bmwe/pulse/bmwm/ click on the SMG picture and dont miss the download area especially the sounds. enjoy bob
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#6. Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. - from Eugene Han
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:04:05 -0500 From: "Eugene Han" <gene501@hotmail.com> Subject: Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. Emergency Brake? Anyone have any ideas? Eugene Han M3/2 White
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. - from Jeremy Warfield
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Warfield <cosmos95_swa@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. What pads are you using?? If they are aftermarket, many brake pads will squeal like there is no tommorrow =( I should know... Jeremy- (pf90'd) ===== JW- 1995 ///M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#8. Re: new member intro - from David Ripton
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:26:46 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> Subject: Re: new member intro "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> > I bought a 97 Estoril Blue M3 a week ago (my first BMW). Some pics of it > are on the web at > > http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/ Welcome to the list. Your car looks nice. Estoril is such a sweet color. Especially compared to Laguna Smurf. I don't understand BMW's market research. The first year's E46 M3 supply would sell out even in hot pink and snot yellow swirl, so maybe a blue that appeals to adult males is being held off as a mid-model upgrade. ("Those whiny Americans still want a four-door." "No way. Not after we caved on the stupid cupholders and all the Porsche engineers made fun of us. Give them a decent blue color and maybe they'll shut up.") > The car has Bridgestone Potenza RE730 tires on it. These tires were bought > new in Oct, 2000 when the car had 23,300 miles on it. The car now has > 32,600 miles. What do you know about these tires? Specifically, how many > miles of "normal" driving might I get from them? ("Normal" means 2/3rds > highway driving, 1/3rd city driving, and an autocross or two per year.) How much tread depth is left on yours? FWIH, they last a long time by performance tire standards. See http://www.tirerack.com/tires/bridgestone/bs_re730.jsp > The car will not be driven in the snow/ice (I live in MD) and may not come > out in the rain. It won't melt. Well, mine hasn't yet. Wait, is that snow under those summer tires in the pics on your web page? > I have the factory am/fm/cassette stereo for sale if anyone is interested > in it. Let me know. As much as everyone seems to hate the stock stereo, they don't tend to break, so you're unlikely to find anyone here who needs a spare. You might want to try eBay. Make sure to note that it's an authentic original M3 stereo. The guys adding the authentic useless way-too-small M3 mirrors and authentic useless cosmetic non-LTW M3 rear wings to their 318's might pay extra for the prestige of an authentic extra-sporty bad stereo. > What is a good radar detector (other than the Valentine 1)? Other fine questions in the same vein: Which McDonald's is best for impressing a date? Which sticker adds the most horsepower? What's the best Ernest movie? Which Minardi driver is more likely to win a F1 race this year? Seriously, get a V1. Our friendly neighborhood list owner was just trying to sell a used one yesterday, so maybe you can get a deal. > Do any of you live in the metro Wash DC area? Where is the best place in > this area to get my car serviced? I've been very happy with Curry's in Chantilly VA, but that might be a bit of a haul from MD. Hey, while I'm here, has anyone removed the armrest from an M3 that came with one? Got any pictures of the results? I usually leave mine up to keep it out of the way of shifting, but it falls forward every time I brake hard. Not sure if I should remove it, or just secure it in the up position. -- David Ripton dripton@wizard.net
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:36:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. I agree. Last year, I bought a set of new PF-90s. I went to my first driver school at Ofest and didn't really use the brakes all that hard (wasn't pushing it and instructor wasn't very communicative). So the pads made the typical PF-90 noise and that was about it. They also dusted nice and black. =) I never did experience the pulsating brakes or anything like that. Well, I just got back from the driver school at Summit Point this past weekend. Slapped the PF-90s on again and had a much better time. Thanks goes out to the NJ chapter for setting up this event. It seems that the NJ chapter has more to offer than the NY one... Anyway, I had a blast and really learned a lot on the Jefferson circuit (you don't go too fast and you learn a lot about smoothness and driving the line). I started pushing harder and harder and started hearing the tires sing and the PF-90s scream. I also started feeling the pulsating in the brakes (very slight pulsations). Not sure how much pad I used (the PF-90s are awesome...seem to last pretty long and aren't too hard on the rotors), but I can definitely hear a clunk when tapping the brakes going 2 - 5 mph. There now is some play between caliper, pad, and rotor so you hear the pad shift around. Also, last night while driving around my neighorhood, my car started making those nasty high pitched NYC taxi cab sounds when slowing down. I checked the pads from the outside (haven't had a chance to clean the car and put it back into street form) and they seemed fine. FWIW, Chester BTW, I have some pics of the event: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=838931&a=12694195&f=0 Congrats goes to my bud Jim E who was signed off twice and advanced to the green run group for the third day at Summit Point...on street tires no less! I love picture 19 :) --- Jeremy Warfield <cosmos95_swa@yahoo.com> wrote: > What pads are you using?? If they are aftermarket, > many brake pads will squeal like there is no tommorrow > =( > > I should know... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: new member intro - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:57:05 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: new member intro > stereo. The guys adding the authentic useless way-too-small M3 mirrors and The Euro (E36) M3 came with a convex drivers side mirror. I replaced the flat glass with this mirror. This replacement, along with adjusting the mirrors to minimize the overlap of the left + right mirrors with the main rear-view mirror in the car does wonders to make the M3 mirrors quite nicely usable. I have this mirror on my M3, if you're curious you can check it out at our next NCC autocross. Andrej '97 M3