E36M3 #1195

Wednesday, April 25, 2001 16:26:24

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#1. 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Scott Chan
#2. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Seth Thomas
#3. Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Ben Liaw
#4. Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Ben Liaw
#5. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Seth Thomas
#6. Re: Steering Racks, etc. - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise - from Lee Hassig
#8. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Gerry Miranda
#9. Re: Steering Racks, etc - from S Lafredo
#10. Re: New E36/4 owner questions - from S Lafredo

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#1. 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Scott Chan
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:44 -0700 From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> Subject: 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? I notice that my '95 M3 has a 6-bolt input flange, and a '97 M3 has a 4-bolt flange. I think this has been discussed on the list already, but is there no compatibility/swapability between these? -- Scott

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#2. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:15:01 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? No. A diff from a 4-bolt will fit a car with a 6-bolt flange. I had to get a new diff for my LTW real quick and found one from a 4bolt flange car. All I did was to take the 4-bolt flange off the new diff and put my 6-bolt on it. This worked and has been in my car ever since. Anybody want 3.23 diff? I might be selling the one out of the car in the next week or two. Email me with an offer if interested. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Chan [mailto:scottch@juniper.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:56 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:44 -0700 From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> Subject: 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? I notice that my '95 M3 has a 6-bolt input flange, and a '97 M3 has a 4-bolt flange. I think this has been discussed on the list already, but is there no compatibility/swapability between these? -- Scott ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#3. Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:16:13 -0700 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? the flanges are interchangeable on the diff, but in doing so, you have to swap your driveshaft as well. so, you want a 97 M3 diff (4-bolt) in your 95 M3 (6-bolt)? you need a 4-bolt driveshaft, too. ben liaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chan" <scottch@juniper.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:44 -0700 > From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> > Subject: 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > I notice that my '95 M3 has a 6-bolt input flange, and a '97 M3 has a > 4-bolt flange. > I think this has been discussed on the list already, but is there no > compatibility/swapability between these? > > -- > Scott > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:18:38 -0700 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? also, i've had the flanges next to each other (a 4-bolt and 6-bolt) and the 6-bolt flange is slightly taller by approximately 1". ben

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#5. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:45:03 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? This is not necessarily true Ben. You can just change out the flange as I did so on my car. I don't remember all the details on it as it has been about 2 years since I did it. But it can be done. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Ben Liaw [mailto:ben@shortshifter.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:26 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:16:13 -0700 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? the flanges are interchangeable on the diff, but in doing so, you have to swap your driveshaft as well. so, you want a 97 M3 diff (4-bolt) in your 95 M3 (6-bolt)? you need a 4-bolt driveshaft, too. ben liaw ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chan" <scottch@juniper.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:44 -0700 > From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> > Subject: 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > I notice that my '95 M3 has a 6-bolt input flange, and a '97 M3 has a > 4-bolt flange. > I think this has been discussed on the list already, but is there no > compatibility/swapability between these? > > -- > Scott > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#6. Re: Steering Racks, etc. - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:43:15 -0400 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re: Steering Racks, etc. Ron wrote: Damn, I'm gonna miss this car.... :-( Has any other E30 + E36 owner had similar thoughts when comparing the two models? Shane replies, I am going through the same thing with my E28 at the moment. I've placed it up for sale in order to pay for a new track car (E36 325is). I've been having all sorts of sellers remorse lately because I love the E28 so much. I think the reason that the steering feels much better is because there is more 'feel' designed into the system. Since BMW's have become more and more like luxury cars, they have had to dial out some of the 'feel' to get luxury. This was taken to the extreme with the E46, and BMW has realized the mistake it made, and is dialing back the 'feel' from the original design of the E46. The E28, with it's recirculating ball, should not feel as good as the M3, but for some reason I like it better. Though I suspect that you and I are riding in the same boat. We've simply got many more miles behind the wheel of the older cars, and prefer the feel because that is what we are used to . The last time I drove an E30 at speed, I recall the steering feeling very darty compared to my M3, and liked it once I got used to it. Though this may be related to a narrower track than anything else. Shane Kleinpeter '96 M3 '88 535is <-- for sale '93 325is <-- on the way

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise - from Lee Hassig
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:20:30 -0400 From: "Lee Hassig" <lhassig@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Screeching/Grinding Brake noise Eugene, If the noise came on suddenly and sounded frightening, then a small stone may have lodged between the rotor and the thinnish metal shield surrounding it. When that happened to me, the noise was so disconcerting that I thought I would have to have the car towed to the shop. Then I backed up a few feet, the stone fell out, and all was well once again. Lee Hassig '95 M3 > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:04:05 -0500 > From: "Eugene Han" <gene501@hotmail.com> > Subject: Screeching/Grinding Brake noise, but pads seem to have 60% left. > > Emergency Brake? > > Anyone have any ideas?

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#8. RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? - from Gerry Miranda
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Gerry Miranda <gerry_miranda@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? Can you get a 6 Bolt diff from a 95 into a 4 bolt diff in a 97. Gerry --- Seth Thomas <porsche993@mindspring.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:45:03 -0400 > From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > This is not necessarily true Ben. You can just > change out the flange as I > did so on my car. I don't remember all the details > on it as it has been > about 2 years since I did it. But it can be done. > > Seth Thomas > www.m3ltw.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Liaw [mailto:ben@shortshifter.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:26 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:16:13 -0700 > From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > the flanges are interchangeable on the diff, but in > doing so, you have to > swap your driveshaft as well. > > so, you want a 97 M3 diff (4-bolt) in your 95 M3 > (6-bolt)? you need a > 4-bolt driveshaft, too. > > ben liaw > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Chan" <scottch@juniper.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:55 AM > Subject: [E36M3] 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > > > Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:44 -0700 > > From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> > > Subject: 4-Bolt vs. 6-bolt diff? > > > > I notice that my '95 M3 has a 6-bolt input flange, > and a '97 M3 has a > > 4-bolt flange. > > I think this has been discussed on the list > already, but is there no > > compatibility/swapability between these? > > > > -- > > Scott > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed > as the > > subject of the message. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Gerry 97 M3/4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#9. Re: Steering Racks, etc - from S Lafredo
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:10:25 -0400 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> Subject: Re: Steering Racks, etc That's funny. my friend said she hated my 325iX b/c it felt like she was in a go-kart. LOL. She like the M3 better. OM3C. S On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 01:05 PM, Ron Buchalski wrote: > One more thing...the feel of the E30 on the road...much more > "fun"...like a go-kart

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#10. Re: New E36/4 owner questions - from S Lafredo
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Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:18:45 -0400 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> Subject: Re: New E36/4 owner questions On Wednesday, April 25, 2001, at 02:15 PM, Neil Maller wrote: > on 4/23/01 5:55 PM, Dan & Anne Miley <mileyd@tiac.net> wrote: >> >> The clutch pedal has side-to-side play. I hear that there is a >> plastic bushing that wears out. > > Correct. Many of them also begin to squeak, and lubing doesn't fix it. The squeak is coming from the two composite pieces inside the spring that feeds back on the pedal. Not the bushing. Ask me how I know. >> Should I have the dealer fix this under warranty? > > They might do it, but that won't fix it. Sure and they will squirt an entire can of lubricant on the entire assembly and maybe snap the small cut out from the lower dash cover when the repair it. Ask me how I know. >> Or should I use an after-market metal part? Who sells those? > > Ron Stygar sells a new stock pedal modified with much better bearings, > or at > least he used to. It cost $65 when I bought mine a year or so ago and > works > perfectly: no slop, no squeak. This helps w/the side to side play and makes the pedal feel nice and smooth... Ask me how I know. S

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