E36M3 #1217

Tuesday, May 01, 2001 06:52:50

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#1. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Bora Akyol
#2. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Jim Powell
#3. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Bora Akyol
#4. Snipping - from Jim Powell
#5. Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Mike Cornwell
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Jim Powell
#7. Summary of Extended Warranty Pros/Cons - from Mike Cornwell
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Chester Wong
#9. SS SUPERSPRINT & AA CAI ON EBAY - from Altezza280TT@cs.com
#10. [E36M3] black smoke on upshifts - from Robert Liu

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#1. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:43:17 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone Jim Under full throttle from a standing start, the RPMs continue dropping after the 1->2 up shift until something grabs and they start climbing again. Ditto for 2->3. The only explanation that I have for this is: 1) My shifting technique sucks. 2) My clutch with 95K miles on it is reaching the end of its useful life. or both. I have been driving manual transmission cars for roughly 14 years and have even had practice with no synchro transmissions in Formula Fords. I have been quoted 850 for a complete clutch installation (will do shifter bushings etc while I am at it), and I am figuring out for 500 more bucks I can possibly get the AA unit. Bora On Monday, April 30, 2001, at 09:32 PM, Jim Powell wrote: > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:25 -0700 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone > > Slipping in low gears? Usually it slips in 4th and 5th when its the > clutch. I have the AA and it goes in just like stock, negligible > increase > in pedal effort. > > Jim > > Bora Akyol wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:32 -0700 >> From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> >> Subject: AA Clutch Kit anyone >> >> My stock clutch is on its way out ( slipping in 1,2,3 with full >> throttle). >> >> I am thinking of getting the AA clutch since I may (turbo)-charge my >> car >> next year. >> >> Any positives, any negatives? >> >> Is it pretty much an exact replacement for stock? >> >> Thanks >> >> Bora >> >> ************************************************************* >> List Commands >> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >> >> To issue a command/request to the server: >> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >> subject of the message. >> ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:45:52 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone Dropping? Wierd. When mine was slipping in 4th and 5th, the slipping clutch would let the RPMs climb sharply until it grabbed and then the RPMs would drop back and resume climbing as the engine was reloaded. The AA unit seems to work perfectly. As long as you are in there for the clutch, replace the rear mainseal and the transmission pilot bearing etc. Jim Bora Akyol wrote: > Jim > > Under full throttle from a standing start, the RPMs continue dropping > after the 1->2 up shift until something grabs and they start climbing > again. Ditto for 2->3. > > The only explanation that I have for this is: > > 1) My shifting technique sucks. > 2) My clutch with 95K miles on it is reaching the end of its useful life. > or both. > > I have been driving manual transmission cars for roughly 14 years and > have even had practice with no synchro transmissions in Formula Fords. > > I have been quoted 850 for a complete clutch installation (will do > shifter bushings etc while I am at it), and I am figuring out for 500 > more bucks I can possibly get the AA unit. > > Bora > > On Monday, April 30, 2001, at 09:32 PM, Jim Powell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:25 -0700 > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone > > > > Slipping in low gears? Usually it slips in 4th and 5th when its the > > clutch. I have the AA and it goes in just like stock, negligible > > increase > > in pedal effort. > > > > Jim > > > > Bora Akyol wrote: > > > >> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:32 -0700 > >> From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> > >> Subject: AA Clutch Kit anyone > >> > >> My stock clutch is on its way out ( slipping in 1,2,3 with full > >> throttle). > >> > >> I am thinking of getting the AA clutch since I may (turbo)-charge my > >> car > >> next year. > >> > >> Any positives, any negatives? > >> > >> Is it pretty much an exact replacement for stock? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Bora > >> > >> ************************************************************* > >> List Commands > >> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > >> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > >> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >> > >> To issue a command/request to the server: > >> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > >> subject of the message. > >> ************************************************************* > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > >

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#3. Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:04:58 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone Come to think of it, this does sound weird. The RPM is tied to the engine. I should be seeing exactly what you were seeing. I wonder if I am getting engine knock and the engine timing is getting retarted. Hmm. Time to do more full throttle starts ;-) Bora On Monday, April 30, 2001, at 09:52 PM, Jim Powell wrote: > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:45:52 -0700 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone > > Dropping? Wierd. When mine was slipping in 4th and 5th, the slipping > clutch > would let the RPMs climb sharply until it grabbed and then the RPMs > would drop > back and resume climbing as the engine was reloaded. > > The AA unit seems to work perfectly. As long as you are in there for > the > clutch, replace the rear mainseal and the transmission pilot bearing > etc. > > Jim > > Bora Akyol wrote: > >> Jim >> >> Under full throttle from a standing start, the RPMs continue dropping >> after the 1->2 up shift until something grabs and they start climbing >> again. Ditto for 2->3. >> >> The only explanation that I have for this is: >> >> 1) My shifting technique sucks. >> 2) My clutch with 95K miles on it is reaching the end of its useful >> life. >> or both. >> >> I have been driving manual transmission cars for roughly 14 years and >> have even had practice with no synchro transmissions in Formula Fords. >> >> I have been quoted 850 for a complete clutch installation (will do >> shifter bushings etc while I am at it), and I am figuring out for 500 >> more bucks I can possibly get the AA unit. >> >> Bora >> >> On Monday, April 30, 2001, at 09:32 PM, Jim Powell wrote: >> >>> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:25 -0700 >>> From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> >>> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AA Clutch Kit anyone >>> >>> Slipping in low gears? Usually it slips in 4th and 5th when its the >>> clutch. I have the AA and it goes in just like stock, negligible >>> increase >>> in pedal effort. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Bora Akyol wrote: >>> >>>> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:45:32 -0700 >>>> From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> >>>> Subject: AA Clutch Kit anyone >>>> >>>> My stock clutch is on its way out ( slipping in 1,2,3 with full >>>> throttle). >>>> >>>> I am thinking of getting the AA clutch since I may (turbo)-charge my >>>> car >>>> next year. >>>> >>>> Any positives, any negatives? >>>> >>>> Is it pretty much an exact replacement for stock? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Bora >>>> >>>> ************************************************************* >>>> List Commands >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing >>>> list. >>>> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >>>> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >>>> >>>> To issue a command/request to the server: >>>> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >>>> subject of the message. >>>> ************************************************************* >>> >>> >>> ************************************************************* >>> List Commands >>> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing >>> list. >>> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >>> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >>> >>> To issue a command/request to the server: >>> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >>> subject of the message. >>> ************************************************************* >>> >>> > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#4. Snipping - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:03:57 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Snipping I apologize. I was reading Bora's post in a small window and didn't see that we were responding to each other AND the list without snipping. For that, I banish myself to Maryland for the next two days. :) Jim

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#5. Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Mike Cornwell
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:10:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Cornwell <mcornwell@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars I have a steering wheel shimy that sounds almost identical to this (65-->80 MPH). I had all 4 wheels balanaced, which got rid of about half the problem, but not all of it. I do know that the front Michelin Pilots are getting close to replacement time, though with 6 months of dry weather ahead of us, I'm in no hurry to replace them. All rotors and pads were replaced with OEM parts last month (47,xxx). Is there a easy way to see if the bearings are the problem? -Mike San Diego '98 M3/C S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> wrote: > > The new the bearings have fixed my shimmy problem. Unlike warped rotors > which on my iX and M3 would shimmy from 55->40, I was feeling a shimmy > from 85->70.It's gone now! Another symptom I noticed was that during > normal hwy driving I would get an slight oscillation in my steering > wheel. That too is gone! > > I originally did not think it was my bearing b/c I was not hearing any > noise coming from them. > > If you are experiencing any of the above I would check your bearing and > not wait until you hear them chewing up your race. > > S __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:11:30 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars Is there ANY movement when you try to move the wheel/tire side to side by hand with the wheel lifted in the air? Rotate the tire 90 degrees and try it again. Repeat for one revolution. This doesn't pick up all of them but it gets many of them. Jim Mike Cornwell wrote: > Is there a easy way to see if the bearings are the problem?

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#7. Summary of Extended Warranty Pros/Cons - from Mike Cornwell
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:27:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Cornwell <mcornwell@yahoo.com> Subject: Summary of Extended Warranty Pros/Cons I received about a half dozen responses to my e-mail last week regarding the pros/cons of an extended warranty. Here's a quick summary for those that are interested. Thanks to all that responded. First of all, I erred in saying that I had a 48K warranty. It was pointed out to me that the M3 came with a 4 year 50K mile warranty. As an alternative to the BMW extended warranty, three people mentioned that Warranty Gold (http://www.warrantygold.com) offers a bumper to bumper warranty for $1800-1900, which is about $1000 less than my local dealership (Brecht BMW, northern San Diego) quoted me. Also, one responder mentioned that the dealer price is negotiable. The other question, whether the extended warranty was even needed, got mixed responses. A few people said that they only had a few inexpensive items go on their M3 during their extended warranty period (water pump and brake light switch), and that a late model E36 most likely has all of it's bugs worked out by now. On the other side of the camp, a few people reported that their extended warranty has covered $3000+ worth of fixes (timing chain tensioner, head gasket & brake light housing; Brake master cylinder, A/C condenser/expansion valve, Window regulator, Thermostat/fan clutch, Power Steering hoses/valve cover gasket & OBC replaced). Again, thanks to those that responded. -Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Wheel Bearings on E36 Cars What we did on Stephen's car was to measure the runout of the outer edge of the rotor while it was on the car. Then compared it to the runout as measured when the rotor was fixed to the lathe. I guess that's not the easiest way to detect, huh? But new wheel bearings that Steve D was selling went for $115/side. You'll need tool 31 2 106. It's an insert that fits into the hub so that you can use a generic puller to remove the hub and/or inner race. Then you'll need tool 31 2 110 to install the bearing/hub assembly. The later tool runs for about $155 or so. It was pretty easy to do. You'll need a long breaker bar (or impact wrench) to break the retaining nut off (it's torqued to 290 NM) and a torque wrench to tighten the thing back on (a new nut, of course). While you're in there, Stephen, Ricardo and myself figured that it would a great time to replace the backing plates with ducted versions just in case you want to run hoses. Chester --- Mike Cornwell <mcornwell@yahoo.com> wrote: > Is there a easy way to see if the bearings are the problem? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#9. SS SUPERSPRINT & AA CAI ON EBAY - from Altezza280TT@cs.com
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:42:15 EDT From: Altezza280TT@cs.com Subject: SS SUPERSPRINT & AA CAI ON EBAY http://cgi6.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems& userid=alec1315@cs.com 1 day & ??? hour left.

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#10. [E36M3] black smoke on upshifts - from Robert Liu
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 04:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Liu <bob_a_liu@yahoo.com> Subject: [E36M3] black smoke on upshifts Hi Group, I have a stock 95 M3 with 147k miles. I had a compression check and leakdown before I bought the car at 146k miles. All cylinders were between 174 and 176 psi, and 1-2% leakdown. At a recent autocross, according to a friend, the car blew black smoke during upshifts near redline. Does this mean the valve guides are worn? Or is there another way for the oil to get into the exhaust, for example, pcv valve, etc.? I assumed the engine was in fairly good shape because of the compression and leakdown readings. Thanks in advance! Bob ===== ------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Liu bob_a_liu@yahoo.com ICQ# 22765210 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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