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#1. Re: [E36M3] What do I get for $1400? - from david tow
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:34:45 -0700 From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What do I get for $1400? Wen, You're right - almost $1000 out of that $1400 was for labor! David ----------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:12:41 -0700 That sounds high but since it is the Bay Area with 1300 sq ft shacks going for $800k, $1400 may seemed like a bargain! I think if you priced out the parts, you would be surprised how much you actually paid for labor, e.g water pump $100, thermostat $25, tranny oil $10, etc. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] odd sound when engine starts up - from Roy Kao
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:31:36 -0400 From: "Roy Kao" <bimmerphile@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] odd sound when engine starts up I believe the sound you're hearing is the air pump that is used as a part of the pollution control system. The pump is on only for the first part of the cold start process until the engine begins to warm up. This is supposed to help with the emissions level when the engine is cold. Roy '99 M3/2 >Hi- >I have a 100% stock 97 M3 coupe. I hear what sounds like a pump or small >motor running for about 2 or 3 minutes when I start the engine after the >car has been sitting over night. The sound stops and then the car runs >fine. What is making this sound? Is it an engine oil pump of some >kind? I'm just curious... not concerned about it. I have no reason to >think that something is wrong with the car. >Thanks, > >Kevin >kevingregg@home.com http://members.home.net/kevingregg >1997 BMW M3 Estoril Blue coupe http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/ >Columbia, MD _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
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#3. Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:44:52 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available >>I just got off the phone with Centerforce and they now have a clutch=20 disk+ pressure plate set for the E36 (95-96) M3s for (drum roll) $1078.<< Bora, I'm curious, why do you prefer the Centerforce to either the AA setup, or, the Sachs sport/HD clutch kit? =20 --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger = SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#4. RE: [E36M3] rear sway bar reinforcement...choices - from Tom Tice
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:47:26 -0400 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] rear sway bar reinforcement...choices I went with the GC "kit" as well. The "kit" is 4 simple pieces of steel which I think costs less than $5 plus shipping. I paid another 45 minutes of labor to have them welded on. The result is not real pretty but is functional and so far so good - no failures. Tom Tice '98 M3/4 '99 540/6 > Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:11:52 -0700 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] rear sway bar reinforcement...choices > > I recommend the Ground Control reinforcement kit. Installed cost me 35 > bucks. > > Looks good and gives ample access to the sway bar bracket bolts and nuts. > > Bora > > On Tuesday, May 1, 2001, at 10:02 AM, Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:05:10 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available I am just doing research right now. I wanted to let people know that there is another alternative. BTW, I think AA also uses a Sachs Clutch. Who sells the Sachs HD kit? Bora > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Reply-To: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:52:35 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available > > Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:44:52 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Subject: Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available > > >>> I just got off the phone with Centerforce and they now have a clutch=20 > disk+ pressure plate set for the E36 (95-96) M3s for (drum roll) > $1078.<< > > Bora, > I'm curious, why do you prefer the Centerforce to either the AA setup, > or, the Sachs sport/HD clutch kit? > =20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Elliott > '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger = > SS > and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#6. How much does Sachs HD clutch cost for E36M3 - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:45:13 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: How much does Sachs HD clutch cost for E36M3 How much does Sachs HD clutch cost for E36M3? and who sells it? Thanks Bora
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#7. Koni or Bilstein - from Brent95M3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:11:02 EDT From: Brent95M3@aol.com Subject: Koni or Bilstein Thanks to the accident, I am getting shocks now. I was going to get them soon anyways, but will be gettitng them sooner than expected. So, Bilstein or Koni's, it is for very hard driven street car. I will do drivers schools this summer. Ride is of a little concern but certainly not much. More than likely I will set it and forget it w/ the Koni's. Also, what is the price difference on these two. Can I get your opinions as well (I have H&R Sport springs). Thanks, Brent Parks Wounded "1 BAD M3"
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#8. tire clearance - from reed nicholson
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 04:20:22 From: "reed nicholson" <reedthis48@hotmail.com> Subject: tire clearance Got my SSR Comps on my 98 M3 today. 81/2x17 with 235/40-17 A032R's barely fit in front--I'd say 1mm clearance at the strut housing. Is a miss as good as a mile with strut clearance, or would it be safer to use spacers? The wheels look great, even without the centercaps that should ship from Tire Rack in a week or so. Reed/Seattle _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available - from Steve Sun
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:21:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Sun <stevesun@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Centerforce Clutch for M3 now available > I'm curious, why do you prefer the Centerforce to either the AA setup, > or, the Sachs sport/HD clutch kit? To add to the thread, my experiences with Centerforce have been very positive. In my import drag racing days, I had a CF clutch in my turbo Civic that ran 12.7 in the 1/4 mile. The clutch never slipped. The CF not only grabbed very nicely, but had a pedal effort almost the same as stock. Granted this is BMW not Honda, but I think Centerforce engineers their products very well. Steve 99 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] What do I get for $1400? - from Wen Liew
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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:42:53 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What do I get for $1400? In So Cal, where the dealer labor rate is $80, $1000 works out to 12.5 hours! Or if you had your car in for the whole 8 hour day, that's $125/hour or $250,000 per 2000 hour year! Maybe the world's oldest profession comes close to this rate but I doubt many can sustain an 8 hour day ;-) Wen >From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> >To: wwliew@hotmail.com >CC: e36m3@bmw-m.net >Subject: Re: [E36M3] What do I get for $1400? >Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:34:45 -0700 > >Wen, > >You're right - almost $1000 out of that $1400 was for labor! > >David _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com