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#1. RE: mystery rattle - from dbruce
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:16:57 -0400 From: dbruce <dbrucepoip@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: mystery rattle Same thing on my 95. It's getting annoying and has only started when the temp went up into the 90's. Send me an email when you find it so. Thanx. On Thu, 3 May 2001 18:12:31 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:23:31 -0700 >From: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) >Subject: "mystery rattle" > >I drive a high mileage 95M3. It looks and drives like new, accept for this >annoying >rattle that has developed. I believe it is coming from the parcel shelf >(the felt panel >behind the backseat that our speakers are in). Has anyone out there had >this problem. >I think it has become loose at the window side and is taping on the back window >over any rough surface. >Thanks in advance for any insite. > >Jay >95M3 dakar/chipped/intaked
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#2. Water Wetter - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:53:51 -0500 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: Water Wetter I don't know if this has come up before. Is it safe to run Redline Water Wetter in an E36 M3 with BMW coolant? Do any of you use this product? A.J.
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#3. SMG II - from Ed Tang
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:51:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: SMG II Jonathon L wrote: "However, if you're coming to a 2nd gear corner from a nice long straight in, say 5th gear, does anyone know if you can preselect the number of downshifts you want. I mean, can you just tap, tap, tap, and once you're slow enough you'll be in second gear, or do you have to physically wait until the revs are appropriate before selecting the downshift?" From what I've read, the SMG is just a manual tranny. You are using paddles instead of your shifter. It's sequential like a motorcycle, so if you've ridden one, you can still over-rev the engine. Unless of course they have a limiter (a la manumatic trannies which are still automatics). With 80 millisecond shifts, I don't think you'll be hopping gears when you get that instantaneous response. With a stick you select the gear, hence, it's more prone to break due to driver error. Sequential gearing reduces that error, at least I believe it would. You would downshift and feel the engine compression and stop at the proper gear for that corner (unless of course you get trigger happy). No accidental 4th to 1st shifts like the one I've read about on this list:-) Ed Tang 95 Cosmos M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#4. rear shelf rattles, koni coilovers, and SMG II (kinda long, sorry) - from scott yu
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:00:16 -0400 From: "scott yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: rear shelf rattles, koni coilovers, and SMG II (kinda long, sorry) Howdy folks, re: rattles 'n squeeeeks I'm surprised Alan hasn't chimed in, because he's the kind fellow that clued me in to a particular rear shelf rattle. BMW stuck these asphalt/cardboard adhesive panels to the underside of the rear parcel shelf to reduce noise/vibration. Depending on how much time your car sees in the sun, the panels start to warp from the heat, and then the ends peel off and curl around, forming little "tapping fingers" that rattle wonderfully against the parcel shelf. Ironic, isn't it? If your rattling is something like a thin stick being held loosely against the shelf as you cross rough pavement, then this is likely your problem. Crawling in the back seat and giving the top of the shelf a good "thwack" with your palm should make this obvious - at least it was in my non-garaged '97. There's a writeup on parcel shelf removal on unofficialbmw.com so I won't bore you with details, but yeah - the first time is a bit of a pain. But after the first time, the entire shelf can be removed and replaced in around 30 minutes if you're motivated. I'll just mention a few key points, first one being MAKE SURE that you correctly align the tabs at the back of the shelf into the rear deck when you replace it. If you're halfway through and not sure what I'm talking about, get out of the car and look at the shelf through the rear window. If you've done it correctly, you won't see the tabs. If you ignore the tabs (as I did the first time), your rear deck will make an even more wonderful rattling noise. Also, while I plan to dynamat it later, I just ripped off the cardboard/asphalt thingies and tossed 'em. Inspect the wire bundles back there and make sure that none of them could rattle against each other (I gave each bundle a little wrap-up with cotton strips), and I also pulled out some beads of hot-glue that were randomly lying around the deck. They use hot glue to put together the foam sections under the parcel shelf, and I guess they got a little sloppy with the beads. As far as squeaks go, if you lower your fold-down seats, you should see shiny areas on the plastic flange that holds down the parcel shelf, basically where the top corners of the seatbacks rest against it. I stuck down little bits of felt right at the worn areas and a good deal of the squeaks went away. re: Koni coilovers Neil wrote about a Koni coilover kit and now I'm confused - how new is this kit? I know that TC Kline/proparts and a few other places (bmp? can't quite remember) were selling "Koni coilover kits," are these completely different items? My rear shocks are starting to bleed from 85,000 miles and two track days, so they'll need to be switched out soon. Any help in deciphering all this Koni business would be greatly appreciated! >From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> >Subject: Koni Threaded Suspension Kits > >A bunch of you had asked for my instructions on how to do the cut-and-gut >procedure for installing Koni strut inserts, since unlike Bilstein, Koni >doesn't supply a complete strut assembly for the M3. > >It looks as if that's changed, according to the following from the new Koni >catalog (available online): re: SMG II I want one, just wanted to blurt that out. I think it's the perfect setup for me - my gal could get in and leave it in auto, and possibly even do a driving event with me (I can dream!). And then I could get it in and with some vigorous button-pushing, disable ASC or DSC, engage sport mode, engage manual shifting mode, engage sport-shifting in the manual mode, etc etc... other than a lot of button pushing, it sounds ideal! scott yu '97 M3 - low on rattles, a few squeaks left
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#5. RE: [E36M3] SMG II - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:11:26 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG II <snip> "From what I've read, the SMG is just a manual tranny. You are using paddles instead of your shifter. It's sequential like a motorcycle, so if you've ridden one, you can still over-rev the engine. Unless of course they have a limiter (a la manumatic trannies which are still automatics)." From what I know about these they are a manual transmission but they have an electronically controlled clutch. So this would make them different from a motorcycle in that you don't have a human controlled clutch. From my thinking an overrev would be impossible with the SMG in the case that the computer won't let it downshift at unsafe RPMs even though you tell it to. BMW has probably designed it this way so that it takes the average dummy or accidental click out of the equation. I know I read something like this but I can't remember if it was on the Ferrari or the BMW setup. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com
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#6. RE: [E36M3] rear shelf rattles, koni coilovers, and SMG II (kinda long, sorry) - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:20:09 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] rear shelf rattles, koni coilovers, and SMG II (kinda long, sorry) <SNIP> "re: Koni coilovers Neil wrote about a Koni coilover kit and now I'm confused - how new is this kit? I know that TC Kline/proparts and a few other places (bmp? can't quite remember) were selling "Koni coilover kits," are these completely different items? My rear shocks are starting to bleed from 85,000 miles and two track days, so they'll need to be switched out soon. Any help in deciphering all this Koni business would be greatly appreciated!" The TC Kline kit is a true coilover but they put a threaded body or collar on the strut and sell it that way. Plus the only way they sell the kit is with a linear race spring. This not something that most people want to drive on the street. The Koni kit is sold with a set of progressive rate springs that would make the car more streetable. Another thing about the TC Kline kit is that they only sell it with the DA Konis. This is nice but way expensive. But if you have the money this is the way to go. I have that kit and love it. It is the best suspension I have ever had on a car. But it is also the stiffest. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Water Wetter - from Mel Silva
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:45:23 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Water Wetter I will only pitch my 2 cents in here because I have used this product. However, I will use this disclaimer: I did not use the Reline Water Wetter in a BMW, I did use it in a highly modified Ford 5.0L Mustang with aluminum heads, cast iron block, and an all aluminum 4 row radiator made by Howe Racing Products and an Edelbrock high volume water pump. Redline Water Wetter significantly reduced the operating temperature of my car. It was used with distilled water and a water pump lubricant ONLY. No glycol based coolant/antifreeze was used. If you read the literature from Redline, it is stated that this is the recommended way to use water wetter. Anyway, the operating temperature was reduced to the point where I had to install a hotter coolant thermostat to get the computer out of "warm-up" mode (full lean condition to heat the cats up). I switched from a 180 deg. to a 197 deg. thermostat after switching to water wetter. I had Autometer mechanical gauges monitoring water and oil temperatures (among other things) so I feel confident that the measurements observed were accurate. Mel former 5.0 racer new M3 cruiser -----Original Message----- From: DiVincenti, A.J. [mailto:ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Water Wetter Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:53:51 -0500 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: Water Wetter I don't know if this has come up before. Is it safe to run Redline Water Wetter in an E36 M3 with BMW coolant? Do any of you use this product? A.J. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#8. RE: [E36M3] SMG II - from Ed Tang
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:13:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG II --- Seth Thomas <porsche993@mindspring.com> wrote: > From what I know about these they are a manual > transmission but they have an electronically >controlled clutch. So this would make them different >from a motorcycle in that you don't have a human >controlled clutch. From my thinking an overrev would >be impossible with the SMG in the case that the > computer won't let it downshift at unsafe RPMs even > though you tell it to. BMW has probably designed it >this way so that it takes the average dummy or > accidental click out of the equation. I know I read > something like this but I can't remember if it was >on the Ferrari or the BMW setup. The SMG is supposedly derived from the Williams car. Heck, it even shifts at the FIA mandated 8/100th sec. Nobody wants to break the gearbox like Mika Hakinnen did last year at Spa, but I think BMW is keeping it true to form. The only electronics that control the SMG is for the Automatic mode where a computer selects the gear for you. Also, if the door is ajar, the gearbox will stay in neutral. In manual mode it should operate like your six speed manual where you can make a mistake and screw up the gear box. I guess you'll still have people not being able to brace themselves at a turn and accidently downshift. And it's easier to do engine braking rather than using the brakes, but I think it would pretty much be an automatic tranny if you couldn't control the shifting, or at least an enhanced auto. As for Ferrari, they might have the safeguards. What stinks is that their paddles are stationary whereas the BMW levers will move with the steering column. Again, I'm basing this on what I've read so far. There isn't much mention of those safeguards, and they always mention stuff like that. Ed Tang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#9. RE: [E36M3] SMG II - from Jason Bishop
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG II SMG is good stuff. Can't wait to try it. I was especially impressed by the launch control business. Hold it in first and bring revs up to 3500 and let go and it will take off for you. I'd like to see that in action. I also liked the hill stuff. It will let the clutch out for you so that you can go from stopped to accelerating up the hill without having to juggle the pedals. I consider myself pretty good at doing it, but I still have trouble on a few hills in san francisco. They are just damn steep. Jason On Fri, 4 May 2001, Ed Tang wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:13:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG II > > --- Seth Thomas <porsche993@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > From what I know about these they are a manual > > transmission but they have an electronically > >controlled clutch. So this would make them different > >from a motorcycle in that you don't have a human > >controlled clutch. From my thinking an overrev would > >be impossible with the SMG in the case that the > > computer won't let it downshift at unsafe RPMs even > > though you tell it to. BMW has probably designed it > >this way so that it takes the average dummy or > > accidental click out of the equation. I know I read > > something like this but I can't remember if it was > >on the Ferrari or the BMW setup. > > The SMG is supposedly derived from the Williams car. > Heck, it even shifts at the FIA mandated 8/100th sec. > Nobody wants to break the gearbox like Mika Hakinnen > did last year at Spa, but I think BMW is keeping it > true to form. The only electronics that control the > SMG is for the Automatic mode where a computer selects > the gear for you. Also, if the door is ajar, the > gearbox will stay in neutral. > In manual mode it should operate like your six speed > manual where you can make a mistake and screw up the > gear box. I guess you'll still have people not being > able to brace themselves at a turn and accidently > downshift. And it's easier to do engine braking rather > than using the brakes, but I think it would pretty > much be an automatic tranny if you couldn't control > the shifting, or at least an enhanced auto. > As for Ferrari, they might have the safeguards. What > stinks is that their paddles are stationary whereas > the BMW levers will move with the steering column. > Again, I'm basing this on what I've read so far. There > isn't much mention of those safeguards, and they > always mention stuff like that. > > Ed Tang > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] SMG II - from Ed Tang
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:35:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] SMG II --- Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> wrote: > SMG is good stuff. Can't wait to try it. Does anyone have an imported SMG version I? Anyone lived in Europe and drove an original SMG? What are your comments? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/