E36M3 #1236

Friday, May 04, 2001 22:33:37

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. re: Water wetter and BMWs - from andy radin
#2. Post crash alignment and camber plates - from Drew Bamford
#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers - from Neil Maller
#4. Water Wetter - from David Hogg
#5. more koni questions - - from scott yu
#6. New radar test - from HYPERM3@aol.com
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers - from Seth Thomas
#8. Bad News---low compression on cylinder No. 6 - from Pieter Van Dien
#9. lightweight flywheel impressions - from John Bergstrom
#10. Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup - from John Bergstrom
#11. Bad News-low compression on cylinder No. 6 = To buy or not to buy :-) - from nabli@attglobal.net

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#1. re: Water wetter and BMWs - from andy radin
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:32:57 -0700 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: re: Water wetter and BMWs > In a normally functioning cooling system I'm not sure that it adds anything over > the regular coolant. Perhaps the surfactants will slightly increase contact with > the metal surfaces allowing that extra margin. Or, in particularly high-heat > situations it might add that small margin of safety if not just peace of mind. Might just give you a couple extra minutes in case, say, your plastic water impeller failed...

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#2. Post crash alignment and camber plates - from Drew Bamford
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:25:18 From: "Drew Bamford" <drewbam@hotmail.com> Subject: Post crash alignment and camber plates At my request, BMW SF faxed me the alignment printout for my 98M3/4 today, now that they're done with the $20K in body work on the front end of my machine. It looks to me as though the cross-caster is pretty far from ideal, though it is supposedly within spec (at the very end of the range). Also, the negative camber seems awfully mild. I know that I've had around -1 on both sides after previous, "track" alignments. Do any of you listers have similar cross-caster without any problems? Is there any way to adjust caster without adjustable plates? This has gotten me thinking about buying a set of adjustable camber/caster plates. I've read the limited info available on TC Kline, KMAC, and Ground Control, but I'd love to hear some testimonials. Do the spherical bearing types put too much stress on the shock towers? Do they contribute much to ride harshness? Is it true that the ground control plates are incompatible with the stock strut setup? What would i get for the extra money with the TC Kline plates over the KMACS? -- LF Camber: -0.7 deg LF Caster: 7.2 deg RF Camber: -0.5 deg RF Caster: 7.7 deg Cross Caster: -0.5 deg (spec is -0.5 to 0.5) Thanks in advance for your help! drew | 98M3/4 not as straight as it used to be _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 18:59:32 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers on 5/4/01 6:04 PM, Seth Thomas at porsche993@mindspring.com wrote: > The kit advertised on Koni's website states that there is a kit out for the > M3. Go to the link posted and scroll down. It lists a threaded kit for the > M3. Um, Seth, that was the whole point. It's already established that the kit exists - I posted the part number and Tire Rack's price for it. Now we want to know what it's like. Neil 96 M3

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#4. Water Wetter - from David Hogg
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:16:23 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: Water Wetter AJ, PTG runs Water Wetter with Glycol in their cars. Sounds like a plan to me. Dave Hogg

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#5. more koni questions - - from scott yu
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:51:51 -0400 From: "scott yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: more koni questions - Is this the kit that Neil was referring to? http://www.activeautowerke.com/suspension/e36suspension.asp (the one at the bottom of the page) If so, I think it's been on AA's page for at least 3-4 months. Just FYI... scott yu boston, ma

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#6. New radar test - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 21:03:15 EDT From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: New radar test Hey all, Not sure if this was covered but I just read an ad for the new Passport 8500. It claims itself as the "Worlds Best" in a new test. It can be found at www.radartest.com. In this test it really blows the doors off the V1. Anyone been to the V1 site lately? Couple of the pages are under construction, including upgrades. Does anyone have the new Passport to give their opinion? Im personally working with a V1 that's about 4 yrs old w/out laser. After reading the test, it does seem to be antiquated. Escort offers a 30 day "test drive." Im thinking about doing it and putting the two together and testing it. Any thoughts? Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 SC M3 29k

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:19:31 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers Sorry to restate you post Neil. But to me it sounded like you were doubting that there was one for the M3. The way I read it is that you were stating there was only a kit for the E36. Guess I was wrong. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com www.m3power.com -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:00 PM To: Seth Thomas; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Koni Coilovers on 5/4/01 6:04 PM, Seth Thomas at porsche993@mindspring.com wrote: > The kit advertised on Koni's website states that there is a kit out for the > M3. Go to the link posted and scroll down. It lists a threaded kit for the > M3. Um, Seth, that was the whole point. It's already established that the kit exists - I posted the part number and Tire Rack's price for it. Now we want to know what it's like. Neil 96 M3

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#8. Bad News---low compression on cylinder No. 6 - from Pieter Van Dien
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:49:12 -0700 From: "Pieter Van Dien" <pvd1@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Bad News---low compression on cylinder No. 6 I've been leasing a '97M3/4 for the last three years. The lease is = about up and I have a very attractive buyout, only $22,000. The car looks great and only has 34,000 miles on it. I got the car when it had 4,000 miles on it. It had started life in the BMW press fleet. I decided to do the smart thing before making what I thought was an = easy decision. I had the car checked out. As bad luck would have it, the number 6 cylinder is 25% down from the other 5 in compression and on the = leakdown test. I haven't really noticed any driveability problems, although fuel mileage has been down. What do I do now? The car could run for years like this, or it could = get worse. A rebuild has got to be at least $5k with all the labor, etc., which still isn't bad for this car ($27,000 total). If this car was in the press fleet, though, it was hammered early on in life. What other problems = are lurking in the wings? Any advice or opinions welcome. Piete

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#9. lightweight flywheel impressions - from John Bergstrom
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:11:42 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> Subject: lightweight flywheel impressions First, thanks to all who gave me input on their experiences with lightweight flywheels. You helped me make a more informed decision about if and which. I was considering 3 options - Active Autowerke, TCKline, and Turner Motorsports. In the end, I chose Turner Motorsports because: - I already have a Turner chip in the car, they were willing to swap it out if I ran into any idling or stalling problems, but assured me that I probably wouldn't have any problems. - Turner was the most knowledgeable and answered my questions the most completely - it was in stock (Active Autowerke said 2-3 weeks before any were available) - Turner is just a good bloke to do business with First, I will say that I would not recommend doing a lightweight flywheel unless you're in changing the clutch anyway (my clutch was toast at the time, 91.5k miles) because of the high labor cost. I decided to go with the stock clutch, as I think it's a pretty decent unit and I wanted to maintain drivability. I had several areas of question and concern when doing this upgrade: - Excessive noise/vibration. Yes, there is more noise under certain conditions, but only when you're idling in neutral and the clutch pedal is out. Press the clutch in and it goes away. (There is also some minor rattle at very low rpms under throttle). If you've been driving the car really hard or the A/C is on, or just when it decides it wants to rattle it does. About 70% of the time, though it is almost imperceptible over stock. Overall, I would say it doesn't really bother me which surprises me because I'm pretty anti-rattle. I hate squeaks and creaks and rattling in my M3. The kind of noise that this flywheel makes, though is more of the "cool" variety than of the RAT variety. - Stalling problems. Yes. They do exist, at least on my car. I have the Turner EuroHFM software and a shielded intake system. Stalling happens occassionally when you coast in neutral to a stop, the flywheel sometimes just doesn't maintain enough rotational inertia to keep the engine live (maybe 5% of the time). I plan on getting my idle speed boosted to about 900rpm. Should be no big deal. - Performance increase. In the big scheme of things, MINIMAL. The engine revs up a little faster for easier heel-toeing, and throttle response is improved. The car does seem a little faster. So, overall, I'm probably just echoing what others have said, but at least this is one more data point for those of you considering this mod. John '95 M3 with gobs and gobs and gobs of goodies (and not so goodies) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#10. Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup - from John Bergstrom
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Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:28:14 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> Subject: Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup OK, I've lived with the Bilstein sport shock / H&R 29910 setup on my '95 M3 for almost a year now. I've driven track, autox, and this is my daily driver. I also have an x-brace and Eibach sway bars. On track, this setup is beautiful. The car is balanced to oversteer a little which gives me the flexiblity to get the car turned a little more by easing the tail out with throttle and steering input. The car remains very flat with very little body roll. Most importantly, the car is HIGHLY recoverable, and you can pull your ass out of many a hairy situation. In autox, the car is great in low speed tight corners, and does not exhibit understeer they way a stock M3 typically would (yes, I drove a stock M3 for about 2 years). However, on the street, this setup is NOT good. My dentist has made over $4500 off me over the last year putting caps on my broken teeth and replacing loose fillings. My ass is covered with black and blue bruises with every seam I run over on the pavement. I mean this damn car is way too damn stiff over any kind of bumpy road. Also, over any bumpy surface, this setup is WORSE than stock in terms of performance. Braking over a bumpy surface is an especially lackluster area. I have been told to try switching springs. I have been told to try switching shocks. I have been told to sell my car and buy a Lexus. But what I am looking for is the least complicated way to solve the streetability problem with a minimum performance degradation and want to hear from you guys out there who have been down the Bilstein/H&R road, came to the same conclusions as me, and changed something that made it better. I cannot lower the car any more (I have the ltw splitter), nor do I want to raise it very much (it looks pretty tough as the height is now). I already have some ideas, but surely there is someone out there who has been down this path before? Thanks all! John (bruised and battered) '95 M3 (a little too stiff) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

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#11. Bad News-low compression on cylinder No. 6 = To buy or not to buy  :-) - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:29:04 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Bad News-low compression on cylinder No. 6 = To buy or not to buy :-) Peite, If you decide to buy this car out you should have it certified by BMW. This should cost you somewhere in the range of $850-1000. Go to: http://www.bmwusa.com/welcome.cfm?code=Home and check out the certified pre-owned bmw info. This will give you additional coverage of 2 yrs./50K above and beyond your origianl warranty. The basic info. from BMW is: In general: The Certified Pre-Owned BMW Limited Warranty is designed to protect owners from defects in materials and workmanship on covered parts and components. The broad coverage includes the parts and systems listed below except where specifically noted in the "What is Not Covered" section of The Certified Pre-Owned BMW Protection Plan Consumer Information Statement (available for examination at your BMW center): Engine Automatic/Manual Transmission Final Drive Assembly, Propeller Shaft(s) Front Suspension Rear Suspension Steering Brakes ABS Brake System Electrical Air Conditioning/Heating System Cooling System Interior/Exterior Fuel System If you're a CCA member for at least one year you may also be entitled to a $500 rebate. Go to: http://www.bmwcca.org/services/svcfset.shtml Then: Membership Reward Program for 2001 (PDF, 315Kb) Don't buy the car out directly from BMW Financial Services. Go to a couple of dealers and tell them that you want to buy the car out through them. They are not obligated to sell you the car at your current buyout unless you agree in advance on the purchase price in advance. They usually want to make somewhere between $500-$1000. Of course, there are greedier dealers out there. Cheers, Jim E. Pieter Van Dien wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:49:12 -0700 > From: "Pieter Van Dien" <pvd1@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Bad News---low compression on cylinder No. 6 > > I've been leasing a '97M3/4 for the last three years. The lease is = > about > up > and I have a very attractive buyout, only $22,000. The car looks great > and > only has 34,000 miles on it. I got the car when it had 4,000 miles on > it. It > had started life in the BMW press fleet. > > I decided to do the smart thing before making what I thought was an = > easy > decision. I had the car checked out. As bad luck would have it, the > number 6 > cylinder is 25% down from the other 5 in compression and on the = > leakdown > test. I haven't really noticed any driveability problems, although fuel > mileage has been down. > > What do I do now? The car could run for years like this, or it could = > get > worse. A rebuild has got to be at least $5k with all the labor, etc., > which > still isn't bad for this car ($27,000 total). If this car was in the > press > fleet, though, it was hammered early on in life. What other problems = > are > lurking in the wings? > > Any advice or opinions welcome. > > Piete > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************

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