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#1. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 07:08:00 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup I believe the wisdom on the list is that the Bilsteins ride on the bump stops and hence you don't get much compression out of them. This makes the ride really stiff. There was a posting last night about how to trim these. I would give this a try. Bora > From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> > Reply-To: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:22:24 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup > > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 06:15:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> > Subject: Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup > > > Why would trimming the bump stops make the ride more comfortable? (I believe > Turner recommends NOT trimming them). And why do you recommend Koni's and H&R > OE Sports? Have you tried this setup and compared it with the Bilstein/H&R > 29910? >
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#2. bilstein vs. koni - from scott yu
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 10:36:14 -0400 From: "scott yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: bilstein vs. koni Hi John, It's funny, but I got to do almost the exact comparison you're talking about across a 2-day period. Is 29910 the Race spiring? I got to try Bilstein+H&R Race, Koni+H&R OE Sport, and H&R Coilovers. (Thanks to Andy, Bill, and Alan!) I had the same opinion you do about the BL/HR combo - low down and mean, tore through the twisties, probably wonderful on the track, but rough sections of pavement were harsh. I then tried Koni/H&R OE Sport, and it was comfy. I had a hard time directly comparing to my stocker as it was on the other coast, but I could swear it was just as comfy if not more so. Not as planted or firm in the corners as the BL/HR setup, but more streetable - I was impressed with the comfort level of this setup. As a recent track-junkie convert, I'm not sure which setup I'd go with... I'd probably drop the extra on a set of H&R Coilovers, as I thought they felt really great, and can be hunkered down for a summer track day and raised up for a crappy New England winter. Fun. Gotta say though, I'm mighty curious about those Koni coilovers, too. hope this helps, scott yu boston > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 06:15:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> > Subject: Bilstein sport / H&R 29910 setup <snippo> > Why would trimming the bump stops make the ride more comfortable? (I believe > Turner recommends NOT trimming them). And why do you recommend Koni's and H&R > OE Sports? Have you tried this setup and compared it with the Bilstein/H&R > 29910?
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#3. WANTED: Worn-out brake pads - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 08:45:23 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: WANTED: Worn-out brake pads Yep, I want em'. Two or more full sets for the E36M3. Any manufacturer will do (clips or no clips). If you have some you were going to throw away, please send them to me and I'll reimburse you shipping plus $5 for your troubles. If you're on the SF peninsula I could even pick them up. Please contact me privately for shipping info / address. Thanks, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#4. Touching up the rocker panels - from Jim Powell
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 15:05:22 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Touching up the rocker panels Want something cheap and easy to do to your older car to freshen it up? $20 and an hour of your time will complete this project. http://www.apexcone.com/KickPanel/KickPanel.html Jim
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#5. Big Brake Kits-Make your own - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:37:13 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Big Brake Kits-Make your own I got my copy of Excellence magazine in the mail. I am looking through the ads and what do I see? Porsche Big Red Front and Rear Upgrade kits for 80s 911s are for $3295 FRONT AND REAR. The monoblock kit is at 4K flat for front and rear. So how come are the big brake kits for front and rear nearly 5.5K for BMW owners. What is so different? The porsche kits also come with bracket mounts. ==================================================== Buy a set of Porsche 993 turbo calipers. Modify them to work in a trailing position (993 turbo calipers are leading) and machine the caliper where the bracket mates with it so the full surface area of the pad contacts the rotor....without this machining , you'll have 10-15mm of pad hanging over the edge of the disk. You might want to experiment on a few sets of used calipers until you get it right....off by 1mm and you have an expensive paperweight. Also, develop the proper cradle to secure your caliper while it is being milled in your machine shop...this is so you don't scratch or damage the caliper. Repaint the part of the caliper that has been machined...Foliatec red or black is an exact match. Develop a set of caliper brackets out of your favorite 4xxx steel....aluminum is much cheaper and easier to work with but the steel will dampen vibrations and is much stronger. Take the brackets and have them zinc plated with a yellow chromate. Buy a chunk of 7075 aluminum and machine it into the correct offset hat for your BMW....have the hats anodized. Your plater will give you a good discount on this work as you're bringing him volume....2 brackets AND 2 hats. Buy a set of rotors from your local Porsche dealer, remove the steel hats, install your new aluminum hats, and true the assemblies on your lathe to ..001" tolerance. Make sure you use the right setup or you'll tear up your rotors and/or the lathe. Measure, remeasure and then measure again until you know that rotor is perfect before it goes out the door. Pick up some gr12.9 hardware and some Hr60 hardened shims for correct centering of the caliper over the rotors....I think Home Depot now stocks these in the aisle with the galvanized nails and drywall screws. Lastly, make up a set of quality stainless steel brake lines as the stock front hoses will not couple to the Porsche calipers. The kind with the banjo fitting connections will hug the calipers closely so the hoses don't hit on suspension parts when the wheel is turned to full lock. Repeat for the rear.... .....don't forget about insurance or you could take the route that the Audi BIRA group takes...make all customers sign a release. Insurance can easily cost $10k per year (just on brake kits) and only gets higher with greater volume. And the blanket TUV approvals we got in Germany on all BMW and Audi kits....guess how many 10's of thousands of DM this cost. Movit has 3 CNC machines running 24 hours a day to keep up with the 7-10 kit per day sales volume. They do private labelling for many European tuners (eg, Hamaan, Abt, MTM, B&B, MKB, among others) who may easily double the prices once their logos are on the calipers. They plan to be around for awhile and here in North America, we haven't scratched the surface of the market yet. Bora...I'm a bit insulted at your thought that we're gouging the market but to be honest, I had the same impression when I got involved with Movit a few years ago. Then I realized what it costs in terms of money and time to support this business. SD ================================== Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage - Tel 201-262-0412
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#6. Amsoil vs Redline...again - from Daniel
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Amsoil vs Redline...again Just wanted to know the favorites out there in the 10w30 grades Thanks Dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Big Brake Kits-Make your own - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:22:57 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Big Brake Kits-Make your own Steve I apologize if it sounded like I was being insulting, I was just very very surprised. I know that you stand behind your products and offer excellent customer service (I am a customer). I understand the work that goes into the production of these kits. But if say Movit had a volume of 70-100 kits per day, then I presume the prices would be a lot lower. Agree? Thanks Bora > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > Reply-To: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 18:42:23 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Big Brake Kits-Make your own > > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:37:13 -0400 > From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> > Subject: Big Brake Kits-Make your own > > I got my copy of Excellence magazine in the mail. I am looking through the > ads and what do I see? > Porsche Big Red Front and Rear Upgrade kits for 80s 911s are for $3295 FRONT > AND REAR. > The monoblock kit is at 4K flat for front and rear. > So how come are the big brake kits for front and rear nearly 5.5K for BMW > owners. > What is so different? The porsche kits also come with bracket mounts. > ==================================================== > Buy a set of Porsche 993 turbo calipers. Modify them to work in a trailing > position (993 turbo calipers are leading) and machine the caliper where the > bracket mates with it so the full surface area of the pad contacts the > rotor....without this machining , you'll have 10-15mm of pad hanging over > the edge of the disk. You might want to experiment on a few sets of used > calipers until you get it right....off by 1mm and you have an expensive > paperweight. Also, develop the proper cradle to secure your caliper while > it is being milled in your machine shop...this is so you don't scratch or > damage the caliper. Repaint the part of the caliper that has been > machined...Foliatec red or black is an exact match. > > Develop a set of caliper brackets out of your favorite 4xxx > steel....aluminum is much cheaper and easier to work with but the steel > will dampen vibrations and is much stronger. Take the brackets and have > them zinc plated with a yellow chromate. > > Buy a chunk of 7075 aluminum and machine it into the correct offset hat for > your BMW....have the hats anodized. Your plater will give you a good > discount on this work as you're bringing him volume....2 brackets AND 2 hats. > > Buy a set of rotors from your local Porsche dealer, remove the steel hats, > install your new aluminum hats, and true the assemblies on your lathe to > .001" tolerance. Make sure you use the right setup or you'll tear up your > rotors and/or the lathe. Measure, remeasure and then measure again until > you know that rotor is perfect before it goes out the door. > > Pick up some gr12.9 hardware and some Hr60 hardened shims for correct > centering of the caliper over the rotors....I think Home Depot now stocks > these in the aisle with the galvanized nails and drywall screws. > > Lastly, make up a set of quality stainless steel brake lines as the stock > front hoses will not couple to the Porsche calipers. The kind with the > banjo fitting connections will hug the calipers closely so the hoses don't > hit on suspension parts when the wheel is turned to full lock. > > Repeat for the rear.... > > ....don't forget about insurance or you could take the route that the Audi > BIRA group takes...make all customers sign a release. Insurance can easily > cost $10k per year (just on brake kits) and only gets higher with greater > volume. And the blanket TUV approvals we got in Germany on all BMW and > Audi kits....guess how many 10's of thousands of DM this cost. > > Movit has 3 CNC machines running 24 hours a day to keep up with the 7-10 > kit per day sales volume. They do private labelling for many European > tuners (eg, Hamaan, Abt, MTM, B&B, MKB, among others) who may easily > double the prices once their logos are on the calipers. They plan to be > around for awhile and here in North America, we haven't scratched the > surface of the market yet. > > Bora...I'm a bit insulted at your thought that we're gouging the market but > to be honest, I had the same impression when I got involved with Movit a > few years ago. Then I realized what it costs in terms of money and time to > support this business. SD > > > > > > ================================== > Steve D'Gerolamo - The Ultimate Garage - Tel 201-262-0412 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Amsoil vs Redline...again - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:38:12 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Amsoil vs Redline...again I know that this is the topic of FLAME WARS. However, because I have had personal experience, I will share it. I used to used Redline in my engines exclusively. I had pulled one of them apart after several thousand miles (Detroit iron) and noticed the same sludgy buildup as in regular dinosaur juice. When I retired that particular vehicle and replaced it I used Amsoil exclusively (in both 5w30 and 10w40) and replaced this oil half as often (mostly because I had a 7 qt baffled pan and a 1 qt remote filter and cooler setup so it held a full 2 gallons of oil!). When I pulled this motor apart 2 years ago to change the cam and replace the cylinder heads (this was an open track car that saw some street duty, btw) there was ZERO buildup, varnishes or sludge anywhere in the engine. The cam appeared to be barely broken in after 45K miles. Since then I have moved and the place I used to buy Amsoil is half a continent away. So, I went looking. The only way I could get any Amsoil is to become a dealer. So I did. Anyway, I am real happy with this product and will continue to use it in my M3 as soon as I can figure out how to reset the service light (see follow up post). Just my 2 cents. Anybody want a catalogue? Mel -----Original Message----- From: Daniel [mailto:m3_driver@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 7:02 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Amsoil vs Redline...again Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:57:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: Amsoil vs Redline...again Just wanted to know the favorites out there in the 10w30 grades Thanks Dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#9. (Follow up) I got it! It's finally here - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 20:50:07 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: (Follow up) I got it! It's finally here List members, Thanks for all the advice and support as I get educated on BMW in general. Finally, after months of searching, weeks of preparation, and then weeks of waiting, I got to drive my first M3 home today! I had to drive it home and get it in the garage quickly though, as we are expecting severe thunderstorms with the possibility of dime sized hail in the next hour or so. I guess I could sit in the garage and stare at it, right? I can't believe that on the day I get the car is the one day that I can't drive it! AAARRGH! I guess it could be worse. I could live where it snows 5 to 6 months a year. Mel Silva 97 M3/4 5sp Byzanz with only 18K on the odometer!
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#10. radio programming q's?? - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:25:15 -0700 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: radio programming q's?? Hey all, I've been trying to re-program my radio button presets and can't quite figure it out. (yes, I've RTFM already) A local station changed from my favorite non-stop "Greatest Hits from Zamfir and his Pan Flute" (no, not his skin-flute) and Tom Jones cover of "Ina Gadda Da Vida" to some kinda no-good hippie music from bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and that thumpin' noise young fellas call gangsta rap. Any he'p is surely appreciated. Mike thumpin and bumpin '95 M3