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#1. RE: [E36M3]Mushy brakes? - from andy radin
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:27:31 -0700 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] <e36 M3>Mushy brakes? >I haven't kept up with Brake fluid technology recently (or ever for that >matter), but this is the second time that I have seen ATE Super Blue >referred to as a synthetic on this list. I have always associated synthetic >brake fluid with silicone. all brake fluid, even the Wal-mart stuff, is synthetic. Polyalkylene Glycol Ether does not occur in nature, and is cooked in a laboratory from ethylene glycol (which itself, I have read, was originally synthesized from carbon monoxide and coal gas).
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#2. Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:45:27 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left No direct experience but when I talked to Steve G at the Ultimate Garage he was very strong on the Pagid stock pad for street and some track until I get fast enough to really burn them up. I have a set for my M3 and my son's '86 325 for this summer and will have direct experience after O'fest. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged Soon to be Hitched and Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Anyone out there able to compare stock Jurids/Textars to the equivilant > Pagid pad? Opinions? Thanks. >
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#3. Re: Floor Garage Jacks - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:04:57 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Floor Garage Jacks on 5/10/01 9:54 AM, S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am in need of a floor jack for the garage. > > Is a 1 TON jack safe for lifting our cars onto 4 jack stands? Here are the things I looked for in a service (i.e. a larger, garage) jack: - Lifting capacity. You can't lift more than half of the car at a time, so 1 ton is in theory adequate, although not generous, for a 3200 lb car. Personally I'd like some more margin, except maybe in the case of a track jack where light weight is the priority. - Low lift height. You must be able to get it under a lift point even on a low car like the M3, especially one that may have been lowered further. - High lift height. To be able to get the car up high enough without having to use additional wooden blocks etc. This usually means a long lift arm, therefore a long frame. - Long reach. This is one most people don't think about. If you want to put jack stands under the lift points, then you have to apply the jack itself somewhere else. You can lift the whole rear of the E36 using the subframe under the diff, but you need a long reach jack to do it. Such a jack will also tend to be heavy. - Quality of construction. Very hard to judge. Imperfect correlation to price. Some jacks can be rebuilt if needed, but I figure that for most of us even an average unit will probably last a very long time. - Price. If you can't afford to buy it, none of the rest matters. Here's what I don't give that much weight to: - Country of origin - get over it! Taiwan is a well developed and highly industrialized country. Yes I have been there. Many of you are reading this using computers made entirely or partly in Taiwan. I also own a couple of portable $25 Chinese jacks that work fine. Remember that vendors selling higher priced units may have a vested interest in bashing imported products that undercut them. At the low end, Sears has some reasonable looking service jacks in the $90-120 range, and they frequently go on sale. Check the low lift height though. The Griots looks interesting. Its low lift height of 2.75" with the saddle is amazing. High lift at 18.25" is fine, despite being theoretically limited by the short lift arm design. Reach looks good, except the body aft of the lift arm pivot seems tall. Somewhat expensive at $389. The current version of the Lincoln is available from the Sears tool catalog (not in stores), and also at Walmart, for around $200. I own a pair of the previous USA-made versions, and a friend has the import. In some ways the latter has better features: it has the bent reinforcing flanges in the sideplates, for instance, and a nicer handle. Lift range on mine is 4.5-19.5", which works great under a lowered M3. Very long reach, but heavy at 92 lbs. on 5/10/01 9:54 AM, "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> added: > I'd be more concerned about the quality of the jack stands than the jack. Amen to that. I have some 6 ton stands that I like to use because they have a very wide and secure base. Neil 96 M3
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#4. PP S02's no more? - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:09:10 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: PP S02's no more? Read on another list that Pole Position S0'2s are being discontinued. Has anyone here tried S03's? How do they compare? Daniel -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA
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#5. Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:15:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left Not sure what all the fuss is about. I attended my first driving school last year and my second one at Summit a few weeks ago. I bit the bullet and bought a set of PF-90s front and rear. I also saw that people were recommending staying with the stock Jurids if you're a beginner. I don't understand this line of thought since, as far as I'm concerned, you can never have too much brakes. I guess if one is lazy and doesn't want to swap stock pads out for track ones and then put the stock ones back in, then perhaps that's something to consider. But....I put the PF-90s in there, sure they dust this black, nasty crap, but there's that protection against brake fade, they're easy on the rotors, they last a helluva long time, and they just consistently stop you. Then, when the track event is over, I go back to the Jurids. For autocrosses, I wouldn't even think of putting the PF-90s back on since you probably don't get the brakes hot. my $.02 Chester --- Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > No direct experience but when I talked to Steve G at the Ultimate Garage he > was very strong on the Pagid stock pad for street and some track until I get > fast enough to really burn them up. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#6. running hot at Sebring & Southeast driving events - from Kris Welhart
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:20:32 -0500 From: "Kris Welhart" <kris.welhart@cyou.com> Subject: running hot at Sebring & Southeast driving events My car was running a little bit hot at Sebring this past weekend. The needle normally sits straight up and down pointed directly at the = center tick on the guage. In the early afternoon it began to sit about 1/8 of an inch before the next tick to the right. It was no where near the red indicator light, but it had moved enough to raise concern. I am currnetly running a K&N filter with no heat shielding, could that be = the cause or is it most likely from somewhere else, or is it normal in higher temperatures to be a little hot. It was around 80 degrees that day. I could get the temp back down by coasting some down the back straight, but by turn 13 it was back up again. Any suggestions are appreciated. My car is a '95 M3 with a OBD-I 3.2L. =20 ATTENTION IN SOUTHEAST: Chin Motorsports has excellent driving events. They consist of mostly NSX club members, but there was 5 BMW's at the Sebring event as well as Honda's, Acura's, Porsche's, etc. They cover Sebring, Moroso, = Homestead, Roebling Road, and Hopefully Road Atlanta (75% confirmed). My first event with Chin Motorsports was Sebring this past weekend and it was very well run with an open track schedule. Beginners are required to have an instructor, but everyone else is solo. I got in about 2 1/2 hours of track time in one day and left at 3:30. They said that from 3:30 on you can have the whole track to yourself, but I had so much = time already I called it quits. I am going to attend the 2 day event in June at Roebling Rd. in Savannah. I am hooked, it beats having run groups IMO. check out www.chinmotorsports.com <http://www.chinmotorsports.com> for more info. I'll be happy to answer any questions that I can. =20 Kris W
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#7. Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left - from dahermann@alum.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: dahermann@alum.mit.edu Subject: Re: [E36M3] 20 mm, how much life left >Anyone out there able to compare stock Jurids/Textars to the equivilant >Pagid pad? Opinions? Thanks. i just replaced the stock Jurids on all four corners with Pagids. i think they are very similar -- same amount of stopping power, same amount of dust (moderate), and same amount of noise (none). the Pagids feel like they have a little less bite than the Jurids, but it's very slight, perhaps only due to my expectation that they would provide greater- than-stock stopping power. ymmv, dan 88 325is 96 M3
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#8. Floor Jacks: But wait, there's more. - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:27:32 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: Floor Jacks: But wait, there's more. Neil just posted a pretty comprehensive list of things to look at. But wait, there's more..... I've noticed a trend lately, even in high $$ jacks. And it's not a good trend in some uses. What the hell is that, you may ask? The deletion of rollers on the front of jacks to be replaced by a simple plate. Sure it's cheap, sure it doesn't let the jack tip as easily, sure it lets the jack get low. But you know what? It isn't always safe. When you jack up a car the jack point follows an arc in the air as it pivots around the tire across or diagonal from the lift point. Notice how the jack rolls to stay under the lift point? Yeah. Well those jacks with a plate aren't goint to move and that means that as the car gets higher and higher that the jack is no longer located directly under its lift point. That just ain't stable. I think it's a stupid design and you probably can't convince me to believe otherwise. Jim
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#9. Re: [E36M3] New rear tires every 7k miles - from Margaret Cheng
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Date: 10 May 2001 10:04:39 -0700 From: Margaret Cheng <Margaret.Cheng@kp.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New rear tires every 7k miles I was wondering when someone might pipe in with faster tire wear. I got my M3/4 in October, 00 with P-Zeroes x 4 and they lasted about 4000 miles (4-5 track days, ~2 autocrosses). I've just had AVS Sports x 4, and the fronts need to be replaced (another 4-5 track days, 2 autocrosses). But....I'm having a lot of fun for as long as the tires last! Margaret jonathanevans@hotmail.com on 05/10/2001 06:37:00 AM To: e36m3@bmw-m.net@Internet cc: (bcc: Margaret Cheng/CA/KAIPERM) Subject: [E36M3] New rear tires every 7k miles Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:13:18 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: New rear tires every 7k miles With all the tire talk I was wondering how often they replace the rear tires. I have put RE71 and they disappeared in 6k miles. The RE730 have nearly gone after 7k miles. One autocross on the first set and one track day on the second. FWIW, the RE730 have help up a little better. With statements like "I got 25k miles out of brand X tires" posted, I feel I'm getting shafted somehow. I'm willing to buy tires twice as expensive if they last twice as long. Staggered setup, no rotating. Fronts last a LOT longer. Perfectly even wear on the rears. Thanks Jonathan 95 M3, LTW wheels, soon to be X braced. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: 20 mm, how much life left - from S Lafredo
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 20 mm, how much life left Track: PF 90s Daily: Porterfiled R4S I have the Porterfiled R4S on the iX and the M3 and before I cursed myself by posting this they do NOT squeal! I also used the BMW goo that Ron mentions on his site. HTH. S --- Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Not sure what all the fuss is about. I attended my first driving > school last year and my second one at Summit a few weeks ago. I > bit the bullet and bought a set of PF-90s front and rear. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#11. Hoosier Temp/Stock Pads to warp rotors? - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:33:48 -0000 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Hoosier Temp/Stock Pads to warp rotors? <html><DIV> <P>I ran my 245 Hoosiers with 40hot all around. The car was a PIG. The Yoko 032Rs were even better than those in terms of understeer. I saw on the webpage for Hoosiers and they reccomend up to and even greater than 48psi. Anyone ran it that high? I would like to run about 46 front (hot) 40 rear next week at Summit Point. Any suggestions (stock everything except for -2.25 camber shims, Xbrace, RD bars front full soft and rear full stiff).</P> <P>Anyone warped thier rotors on stock pads(new pads)? I would like to run a day or 2 on the track before I put in the PF90s. Is it healthy? I wont be cooking it for the drivers school excepf for Day2 for the Timed Event but only 4 hot laps. </P> <P>Thanks in advance</P> <P>Ahmad<BR><BR></P></DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html>