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#1. Re: [E36M3] Squeaking Left Rear - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:20:11 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Squeaking Left Rear Check the rear sway bar bushings. They may need to be lubed. It took me several months to track down this squeak on my M3. Do you have an aftermarket sway bar with urethane bushings? Or do you have the stock sway bar? I assume you have the stock bar so I'll give that answer. I learned you DO NOT want the stock rubber bushings to rotate on the sway bar. Instead, you want them glued to the bar. Think of the RSM. Once it separates from the metal, it squeaks. I learned the best "lube" is simple dishwashing liquid soap sitting by your kitchen sink. It makes everything easy to assemble but then it dries and the bushing will be stuck to the sway bar. You will have to remove the sway bar to "lube" it. Best way I learned is to lift both rear wheels off the ground, remove the wheels, undo the 13mm nut inside the springs attaching the upper end of the sway bar link, and then undo the brackets holding the sway bar bushings. Wiggle the sway bar out OVER the muffler. See if you can turn the sway bar links. They should be fused to the ends of the sway bar. If not, lube them with the dishwashing soap and slide them back on. Then lube the sway bar bushings and reassemble the sway bar. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas
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#2. RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Juan Rico
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:24:29 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Have any of you guys really left a 328 in the dust, provided the other driver was somewhat competent...? I'm saying this because even though it might not be a real M3, that doesn't mean that your *that* much quicker in the first place, especially for us 95'ers. A 328 driven well will keep up with an M3 easily any day. Unless your in an open stretch of highway in the middle of the desert. Around town it's all about cojones, not how quick your car is. More so in this case, where the difference is insignificant compared to the HP/torque difference let's say between a Viper and an M3. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Jackowitz [mailto:rjme@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:13:04 -0400 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... I usually just hit the gas and see if they can keep up. All of the ///M-goodies can be added. Even BMW offered am M-technik 3-series which included all of the M3 aero stuff. The darth vader seats were only offered in the 2 door, although I think you could opt for the standard sport seats as well. Another giveaway might be worn-out rear tires :) Rob >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:04:05 -0400 >From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> >Subject: M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > >You are flying around the road, and you see a nice E36 with all M3 >accessories (bumpers, side skirts, side markers, rearview mirrors, rear >badge, etc.), but you're not immediately sure it is an M3 or simply a 328 >with all M3 accessories... what's the quickest way to know if it's not an >M3? (bear in mind that you are on the street, so you don't have time to >look >at the car in detail). > >I thought that by looking at the seats I could tell if it was not an M3, >but >then I was told that M3s also come with the normal seats that other E36 >come >in, is this true? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Luis Veras
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:25:47 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Already knew about the VIN, 1 exhaust tip if a 318, and you can't really look at the interior (ie. dashboard) when you're on the road. I guess my question was geared towards if it's possible to verify by just looking at the seats. But as Tony said, M3 with lux package and/or 4 doors come with the "normal" 328 seats. Do these luxury seats have the M stripes? Also, are the "Darth Vader" seats those also called Sport seats and "Bucket" seats? Chester said that non M cars have white needles in the tach, can someone else confirm this? I thought all E36s had red needles in the tach (I haven't been in that many non M E36, so I can't really remember, I do remember them having red/orangish lighting). Some of you wanted to know why I wanted to know all this. Some guy that lives near my house passes every day in what seems to be an M3, only that it has 328 seats (other than that it has everything that you can see from a distance as an M3) and looks at my M3 like "heh, this a**hole thinks he's as cool as I am in my M3". I just wanted to see if he indeed had an M3 or a fakie. I guess I'll have to race him to find out, huh? Oh, and one last question, other than Dakar Yellow, are there any exterior and/or interior colors that are M exclusive and/or non-M exclusive? I have a modena natur interior, is this only for M cars? Thanks everyone for your info. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:37:56 -0700 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > > Look at the VIN. > > Jim > > Luis Veras wrote: > > what's the quickest way to know if it's not an M3? > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#4. dinan intake + shark injector - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:23:29 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: dinan intake + shark injector > Anyone running the subject line set-up on their 96+ M3??? This is the set-up > I want to use, wondering if anyone has dyno'd this for torque and HP increase? Yup. I have an old dinan intake (metal tube) on my 97 m3/4. with SI, uuc exhaust, and flywheel, it made low 230s at the rear wheels. -kit
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#5. Engine Whine resolved????? - from ENF
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:40:36 -0400 From: "ENF" <enf@iglou.com> Subject: Engine Whine resolved????? Well the saga may finally be over. Thanks to the many people on this list that responded with suggestion and experiences. My problem started back in October. The car developed a sound like that of a slipping belt. Took it in the first time, they changed a belt tensioner. Problem still remained. Took it in a second time, they replaced all remaining pullys or tensioners. Took it in the third time (they kept the car 3 days). Car is normal, no sound noted. Took it back time # 4 , yes we hear the sound leave it with us. (8 days) Could not duplicated. Took it back time #5 (they gave me a loaner this time) I told them about the possibilities I learned from this list. BMW rep. got involved, schedule II was happening at the same time, they replaced drive belts. No noise heard. Went back 6th time. Made them listen to sound, removed oil cap, sound went away. Agreed air was being sucked in from somewhere. Gave them a stack of emails I pulled down from everywhere that said "IT COULD BE THE REAR MAIN SEAL" So to please me they replaced the RMS. Surprise! No noise so far. Is it fixed, time will tell, but at least it was an obvious option to what they were talking about doing (replacing the oil seperation unit) Why, I dunno. Thanks to everyone, Ed Frank 97 M3/4 X-Braced and quiet for a change
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#6. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from GRCouture@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:43:51 EDT From: GRCouture@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... In a message dated 5/15/01 1:36:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veras@tricom.net writes: Oh, and one last question, other than Dakar Yellow, are there any exterior and/or interior colors that are M exclusive and/or non-M exclusive? I have a modena natur interior, is this only for M cars? Thanks everyone for your info. Don't forget Estoril Blue, Techno and Daytona Violet! Gregg '99 Estoril Blue/Black http://members.tripod.com/gcouture/m3
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#7. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:51:12 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Check the front strut caps, as they should be offset. When I was at the dealer last, the tech was telling me about a guy in 1995 or 96 that REALLY wanted an M3 convertible. They took one slightly wrecked M3 and transferred every damn bit of it into a 328 or whatever convertible.. I think 3 months later and gobs of money (remember this was a dealer) the guy had his M3 convertible. The tech was still saying that it wasn't quite an M3, with all the welding reinforcements and unibody prep that the factory does. But, he said it drove great and looked perfect. So, some poseurs are more dedicated than others! Jonathan 95 M3 (hardtop)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Luis Veras
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:58:37 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... In the city, not really in the dust but at least somewhat noticeable behind. I wanted to say something about racing inferior cars in town, it's more than just cojones, like Juan said. The other day an Integra GS-R started racing me, and I wasn't really into it, but then decided to do so. Of course, I easily passed him, but the idiot almost crashed in my rear end and later he slipped out of the road in a curve. This happened because those guys want to equal their car to an M3, thus they push their cars beyond their limit. And this was a good example, first he almost crashed my car in the back because his brakes didn't compare to mine (I had to brake hard at one point), and then later on while in the curve, he slipped out because he wanted to keep up with the speed I was carrying (about 85 MPH at that point), but his suspension couldn't take it and he lost control. Those are the same idiots that crash our cars, without it being our fault (well, at least not entirely our fault, after all, who said the city streets were for racing? hehehe). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Rico" <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:24:29 -0700 > From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > > Have any of you guys really left a 328 in the dust, > provided the other driver was somewhat competent...? > I'm saying this because even though it might not be a real M3, > that doesn't mean that your *that* much quicker in the first place, > especially for us 95'ers. A 328 driven well will keep up with an M3 easily > any day. > Unless your in an open stretch of highway in the middle of the desert. > Around town it's all about cojones, not how quick your car is. > More so in this case, where the difference is insignificant compared > to the HP/torque difference let's say between a Viper and an M3. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Jackowitz [mailto:rjme@msn.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 10:14 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > > > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:13:04 -0400 > From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > > I usually just hit the gas and see if they can keep up. All of the > ///M-goodies can be added. Even BMW offered am M-technik 3-series which > included all of the M3 aero stuff. The darth vader seats were only offered > in the 2 door, although I think you could opt for the standard sport seats > as well. > Another giveaway might be worn-out rear tires :) > Rob > > > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:04:05 -0400 > >From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > >Subject: M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > > > >You are flying around the road, and you see a nice E36 with all M3 > >accessories (bumpers, side skirts, side markers, rearview mirrors, rear > >badge, etc.), but you're not immediately sure it is an M3 or simply a 328 > >with all M3 accessories... what's the quickest way to know if it's not an > >M3? (bear in mind that you are on the street, so you don't have time to > >look > >at the car in detail). > > > >I thought that by looking at the seats I could tell if it was not an M3, > >but > >then I was told that M3s also come with the normal seats that other E36 > >come > >in, is this true? > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Wen Liew
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:12:59 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Since you mentioned "flying down the road", I'm surprised nobody mentioned exterior colors.... Dakar, Estoril Blue, Byzanz, Daytona and Techno Violet are M3-only colors (unless specially ordered or repainted). and interior colors... though harder to see when you're flying.... Magma, Mulberry and Modena are also M3-only colors, I believe. Wen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#10. RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:26:23 -0400 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Luis Veras [mailto:veras@tricom.net] wrote: > > they push their cars beyond their limit. And this was a good > example, first he almost crashed my car in the back because his > brakes didn't compare to mine (I had to brake hard at one point), [...] > Those are the same idiots that crash our cars, without it being > our fault (well, at least not entirely our fault, after all, > who said the city streets were for racing? hehehe). Luis, How about a reality check: every non-neglected car on the road has big enough breaks to engage ABS (or lock the tires) at any speed. And it's highly unlikely that either you or the car behind you have been braking hard enough to fade the stock brakes on the street. So getting close to being rear ended has more to do with you braking unexpectedly and the reaction time of the driver behind you. The part about braking unexpectedly almost caused me to rear end another M3 on track last weekend. The driver ahead of me suddenly decided to wave me by and braked right at the track out of a 4th gear turn. Not a pretty sight to see another car camping out right where you expect yours to be in a few seconds. After a few heart attacks I stopped drifting out about 2 feet away from his driver's door. I bet he though I was reckless or "my brakes didn't compare to his". Wanna guess what I thought of him? alex f
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#11. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Phil
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil <estorilphil@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Unless of course, you're in Europe. Where you could easily have a BMW made to order. For instance, on the A7 in Germany, I saw an Estoril blue 320i with M3 aero stuff, door strips, even mirrors. Now, it may have been a sleeper M3 _made_ to look like a 320i but the 15" rims (it was sept and no snow in sight), non-M3 looking exhaust (no aftermarket either), and the speed he was carrying (I passed him in my 320d) tend to dismiss that idea. :-) Phil Wen Liew <wwliew@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:12:59 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... Since you mentioned "flying down the road", I'm surprised nobody mentioned exterior colors.... Dakar, Estoril Blue, Byzanz, Daytona and Techno Violet are M3-only colors (unless specially ordered or repainted). and interior colors... though harder to see when you're flying.... Magma, Mulberry and Modena are also M3-only colors, I believe. Wen _________________________________________________________________ _____ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions $2 Million Sweepstakes - Got something to sell?
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#12. RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:31:29 -0400 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... I've left many 328s/325s in the dust on an open highway...no comparison. Not too long ago I hooked up with an E46 328 and a 540i on a trip from Summit Point to NYC. When traffic was clear we would all line up and accelerate from 60 to maybe 120. The 540 kept pace just fine...the 328 got left way behind every time. It just didn't have the legs. I'm far too old for street racing...hung up those cojones a few years back when kids came into the picture so I can't really comment of stoplight racing. I've driven E46 328s & a 330 on a number of occasions (service loaners, test drives). They have good torque, but lack the pulling power of an M. > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:24:29 -0700 >From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. Non M3 E36... > >Have any of you guys really left a 328 in the dust, >provided the other driver was somewhat competent...? >I'm saying this because even though it might not be a real M3, >that doesn't mean that your *that* much quicker in the first place, >especially for us 95'ers. A 328 driven well will keep up with an M3 easily >any day. >Unless your in an open stretch of highway in the middle of the desert. >Around town it's all about cojones, not how quick your car is. >More so in this case, where the difference is insignificant compared >to the HP/torque difference let's say between a Viper and an M3. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#13. Re: Schroth Rallye 4 For Sale - from Chip E.
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Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chip E." <chip4bmw@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Schroth Rallye 4 For Sale Hi Paul, very sorry to hear of your incident. With regard to your harnesses, you are proof that they work...but from what I recall, they're only designed for single stress use. That is, after an incident they should most likely be retired. If they're not retired, I don't think anyone should use them without having the manufacturer (or someone with adequate testing equipment) evaluate them. I'd say you got your money out of them. Not trying to queer your sale, just that I couldn't sleep at night if I didn't speak up. Again, glad you were able to walk away. - Chip > -------------------- -------------------- > Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:15:08 -0500 > From: "Paul Kopecki" <Paul_Kopecki@transwestern.net> > Subject: Re: Schroth Rallye 4 For Sale > > Black Schroth Rallye 4 Harnesses, Left and Right, > used only 5 and one > third schools... Like new. New are $290. Asking > $150/OBO. These things > really,really work...I'm in the Chicago area. PK __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/