E36M3 #1295

Thursday, May 17, 2001 13:25:04

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#1. Re: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather - from Ben Liaw
#2. Re: [E36M3] Control arm bushings - from Ben Liaw
#3. LTW for sale in Indianapolis, Indiana - from Marc.S.Edwards@questdiagnostics.com
#4. RE: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? - from TWilli3186@aol.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] Air temp sensor - from Lee Hassig
#6. FS: E46 M3 (to be built) - from Ben Liaw
#7. 16" wheels - from John Van Houten
#8. WTB - E36 M3 shifter - from Dorffer, Rich
#9. RE: [E36M3] Camber vs. Toe Question - from Fadeev, Alex
#10. RE: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather - from Jim Bassett

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#1. Re: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:05:32 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather to clarify, the leather credit was NOT for the stripes...it was for SUBSTITUTING leatherette in place of leather. the $500 leather credit was taken off the sticker price. don't worry...all you guys with LUX package cars have leather, even if you don't have the /// stripes. ben liaw ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mdriver13@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather > Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:30:39 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather > > In a message dated 5/16/01 2:55:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > fourfa@mindspring.com writes: > > > > > due to the M stripes not being on the > >seatbacks, but instead on the headrests (I don't know if this affected > any > >'97s or not). I'm not sure if this was a sedan only thing, or affected > >coupes as well. > > > > > Well my 97 Luxo coupe (10/96 make date) has no stripes on the seatbacks > or > headrests and I did not get a credit. Always thought that was odd, am I > > entitled to at least headrests with stripes??? This would jazz up the > inside > some more ;-)) > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > AS Champion 1997 & 2000 > #13 BSP 2001 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Control arm bushings - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:24:55 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Control arm bushings you can use the ones from any 96+ 3.2L M3. they're upgrade over the ones in a 95 M3 (which are the sames ones used on a 318). cost you about $30/pair at the dealer. or, you can go poly, but those are about $100/pair. and, of course, TC Kline at $400/pair. hope this helps. ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa" <jbruce@stanford.edu> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:54 PM Subject: [E36M3] Control arm bushings > Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:53:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Juan Carlos Bruce-Novoa <jbruce@stanford.edu> > Subject: Control arm bushings > > I know this issue has probably been beat to death but I need to figure out > what parts to replace my worn out control arm bushings with. I definitely > need more heavy duty parts than the stock '95 bushings. These wore out > a little over a year ago at 69k and now they are worn out again 15k later > at 84k. Just to give you background I run about 5-6 drivers schools a > year plus relatively smooth street driving in the south bay. I have H&R > coilovers and street tires (S02s) on the track. Has anyone else had the > bushings wear out this quickly? > > What should I go with? later E36 M3 4dr bushings? E46 bushings? TC kline > spherical ball joint bushings (now only $399)? Is the ride really that > terrible with these things? > > Juan Bruce > BMW CCA GGC > '95 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >

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#3. LTW for sale in Indianapolis, Indiana - from Marc.S.Edwards@questdiagnostics.com
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:34:20 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@questdiagnostics.com Subject: LTW for sale in Indianapolis, Indiana Sorry for the multipost: Jeff Harker seems to still have his LTW for sale as it is listed on the Hoosier BMW CCA web site. I have seen this car, I know Jeff, and this is a well taken care of, garaged, well driven, all the LTW parts, and is a nicely modified LTW. If you are considering a LTW as a track car and an investment this would be one of these great cars to get. Please contact Jeff, not me, regarding any questions about the car. Go here: http://www.hoosierbmw.com/pages/classifieds.html Here is the text of the advert: For Sale: 95 M3 Lightweight, 27,000 miles. One of 125 produced. Would like to sell by early June. $45,000 with all the goodies, $36,000 stock Call Jeff Harker (317) 253-9493 or email jeffharker@aol.com Contact him, not me please. Thanks, Marc 1995 M3 CSL (that also started out in Indianapolis with Bob Stommel)

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#4. RE:  [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? - from TWilli3186@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:14:40 EDT From: TWilli3186@aol.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? Jonathan, I don't have any experience with Pagid pads, but the "brackets" are spring clips (I think the Bentley manual calls them locating springs) that fit into the brake caliper piston, which is on the inside of each brake caliper. So it sounds like you have one too many pads for inside-rear (hence one too few pads for outside-rear). The pads I use for driving schools (PF90s) are manufactured without clips; they work fine but make notoriously annoying rattling sounds. Depending on how much in a hurry you are for new pads, and assuming that whoever is doing the installation has more experience with M3 brake pads than you or I do, ask them if they can remove one of the clips without damaging the outside surface of the pad. Otherwise, ask your supplier to make it right. Tim Williams >Four pads, two of which have a 3-pronged "bracket" on the back and two that don't. The rears, however, don't match up in that way. >Three have the 3-pronged bracket and one doesn't. I'm not installing them myself (will watch and learn though), but I'd like to make sure I've got everything > correct before I get there. Do I need to remove one of the "brackets" from one of the rear pads, and if so, how do I do this without damaging anything > (a flat-head screwdriver to pry it up)??

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Air temp sensor - from Lee Hassig
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:37:17 -0400 From: "Lee Hassig" <lhassig@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Air temp sensor Bruce, I had this problem, too, and had difficulty finding the sensor in Bentley. So I emailed Jim Conforti about it. Here's how he described the sensor and its location to me: ".. the sensor you want is located in behind the throttle body It is screwed into the underside of the intake manifold and looks like a "finger". It has a connection plug w/ 2 wires." It's easy in the Bentley manual to read about the wrong engine. I think the picture on page 130-19 shows the thing you're looking for. BTW, before I could do anything about this problem, the check engine light stopped illuminating--it had been coming on intermettently--and the fault code disappeared. So far, it hasn't returned. Maybe you should give the problem an opporturnity to correct itself. Lee Hassig '95 M3 -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:01:56 -0400 > From: dbruce <dbrucepoip@yahoo.com> > Subject: Air temp sensor > > I have a check engine light caused by the air intake temp sensor. > > Where is it? Bentley points to the Intake Manifold......but it isn't > where the picture says. > > I have heard it might be under the manifold or in the airbox. > > I ask again, where is it? Boy is it frustrating when you can't find > something. > > Thanx. > > > > ************************************************************** > Digest Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************** >

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#6. FS:  E46 M3 (to be built) - from Ben Liaw
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:39:30 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw" <ben@shortshifter.com> Subject: FS: E46 M3 (to be built) i've decided not to order the E46 M3 that i've had a deposit on, and my turn to spec the car is here. colors, options, etc. are still all open as it will be built this month for june delivery. interested parties contact me privately. ben liaw ben@benliaw.com

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#7. 16" wheels - from John Van Houten
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:05:12 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: 16" wheels I know that there are some 16" wheels that will fit on an M3, but which ones? Any help would be appreciated. I'm looking at wheel options for SCCA GT2, where you are limited to a 16" wheel diameter (but can go to a 10" width). I'll probably end up with custom wheels and the brakes will likely be changed before then, but I thought I would ask here first. Thanks John

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#8. WTB - E36 M3 shifter - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:07:46 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: WTB - E36 M3 shifter Does anyone have an E36 M3 shifter in good condition laying around that you would like to sell? Maybe you did an upgrade after obtaining your M3. Please let me know, I want to upgrade a very sloppy E30 325is before next weekend. Thanks in advance. Rich

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Camber vs. Toe Question - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:11:50 -0500 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Camber vs. Toe Question Andrew E. Kalman [mailto:aek@pumpkininc.com] wrote: > > I was wondering how large negative camber affects toe (F & R). I was > thinking that as you increase front camber, you probably want to > reduce front toe. The more negative camber you dial up front the more toe out you will get. In theory it sounds great: you come to the autoX/track, crank up more negative camber and have more negative toe for faster turn in. Than crank it back to where it was at the end of the day and go back to bone stock alignment. In reality, you can never quiet hit that 'where you were' spot and end up with a misaligned car on the steet (by-by steet tires). Another thing is that too much toe out will overheat the insides of your tires in no time. That may be Ok for autoX runs, but you would be seriously reducing the lifetime of your track tires with any significant toe out. Thus in reality, you find a compromise camber/toe setting for both steet and track and learn to live with it. > Rear toe can probably be considered independent of camber. Independent of front or rear camber? I bet rear toe is also effected by rear camber adjustments. > I ask because my LWT has -3.5 up front and is maxxed out (?!?) at > -1.0 in the rear, That doesn't sound right. I got -1.8 camber in the rear on '95 M3. > and I get really weird wear patterns, especially on > the fronts -- it's like the inner 2/3rd of the tire are wearing just > due to camber (i.e it's worn most on the inner edge, and rises up to > little wear 2/3's of the way to the outside), and then it "falls off" > down to the wear bars on the outer edge. I suspect my toe settings > are wrong, but I can't confirm it. The insides of your front tires are bound to wear a lot faster than the rest of the tire with -3.5 of camber up front. The outside edge could be wearing off during turns if you don't run enough pressure in your front tires. > If anyone knows about this stuff in depth, I'd love to hear it Not exactly 'in depth', but at least a place to start. alex f

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#10. RE: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:18:32 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] re: stripes on leather > to clarify, the leather credit was NOT for the stripes...it was for > SUBSTITUTING leatherette in place of leather. Sure about that? I've had the driver's seat cover off, and it's leather (what the heck is "leatherette" anyway?). Now, the grade of leather may be different than non-leather-credit cars, but it's still leather. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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