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#1. Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:54:30 -0400 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? The brackets or 'spring clips' are for the inboard pads and fit into the caliper piston. Sounds like they sent you three inboard and one outboard by mistake. You can pry it off with a screwdriver or pull it off with a plier. You won't damage anything as the backing plates are probably metal. Rob > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:37:13 -0700 >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? > >Just got my new brake pads that will be installed on Saturday morning >(Pagid >4-2-1). Opened the boxes to check them out just for fun and noticed >something I found questionable (especially since I've never messed around >with pads before). > >The fronts look fine, I guess. Four pads, two of which have a 3-pronged >"bracket" on the back and two that don't. The rears, however, don't match >up in that way. Three have the 3-pronged bracket and one doesn't. I'm not >installing them myself (will watch and learn though), but I'd like to make >sure I've got everything correct before I get there. Do I need to remove >one of the "brackets" from one of the rear pads, and if so, how do I do >this >without damaging anything (a flat-head screwdriver to pry it up)?? > >Thanks! >Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#2. Re:Control Arm Bushings - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:46:07 -0400 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re:Control Arm Bushings >you can use the ones from any 96+ 3.2L M3. they're upgrade over the ones in >a 95 M3 (which are the sames ones used on a 318). >cost you about $30/pair at the dealer. >or, you can go poly, but those are about $100/pair. The control arm bushings on my '96 M3 were replaced a couple months ago because they died at 55k miles. I replaced them with poly bushings that I bought from Bimmerworld. I think my originals died so early due to a lot of track miles, so YMMV. Shane Kleinpeter Tarheel Chapter '535is <-- for sale '96 M3 '93 325i/is <--- I want one of these. Let me know if you have one for sale cheap (i.e. < $8k)
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:08:47 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? Or, at a minimum, you could just cut off the 3 prongs. What's left on the pad should fit between the "fingers" of the caliper on the outboard side. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Jackowitz [mailto:rjme@msn.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 12:04 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? > > > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:54:30 -0400 > From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? > > The brackets or 'spring clips' are for the inboard pads and > fit into the > caliper piston. Sounds like they sent you three inboard and > one outboard by > mistake. You can pry it off with a screwdriver or pull it off > with a plier. > You won't damage anything as the backing plates are probably metal. > Rob > > > > >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:37:13 -0700 > >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > >Subject: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? > > > >Just got my new brake pads that will be installed on > Saturday morning > >(Pagid > >4-2-1). Opened the boxes to check them out just for fun and noticed > >something I found questionable (especially since I've never > messed around > >with pads before). > > > >The fronts look fine, I guess. Four pads, two of which have > a 3-pronged > >"bracket" on the back and two that don't. The rears, > however, don't match > >up in that way. Three have the 3-pronged bracket and one > doesn't. I'm not > >installing them myself (will watch and learn though), but > I'd like to make > >sure I've got everything correct before I get there. Do I > need to remove > >one of the "brackets" from one of the rear pads, and if so, > how do I do > >this > >without damaging anything (a flat-head screwdriver to pry it up)?? > > > >Thanks! > >Jonathan L. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:12:46 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brackets on Brake Pads? Thanks Tim & Rob, The warehouse that shipped my pads just happens to be about 2 minutes from my office (wish I knew that before hand). Anyway, the person who packed it forgot to double check the boxes before shipping. I'll be stopping by this evening and swapping and inboard for an outboard. Thanks! Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#5. TC Kline Customer Service - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:13:13 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: TC Kline Customer Service In the not-to-distant past, there was much talk about TC Kline and their customer service, or lack thereof. Around the same time, even I had some minor issues with them that were properly resolved without much hassle. When I decided this week to change my suspension yet again, I called them. Not only were they prompt at returning my call, but Andrew Smith had all of my questions and concerns quickly answered and must have called me 4 or 5 times with updates relating to the shipping (because I had parts coming from 3 different places). Overall, I am extremely satisfied and would put them back up on the highly recommended vendor list. I have nothing to gain from this but I am a happy customer, -Wayne P.S. I should have a new suspension report sometime next week.
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#6. apexcone.com - from Jim Powell
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:31:20 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: apexcone.com If anyone wants anything off apexcone.com, get it today. Not tomorrow, not tonight, today. The page is going away. Half you idiots don't hve the sense God gave to bacteria. I'm not spending my money to pound square pegs into round holes anymore. The page will be gone by 6pm. Jim
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#7. Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:48:17 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com Ok, what did I miss? Damn, now I have to pdf. the WHOLE site! D'oh! Cheers, Jim E. aka: Mr. amoeba :-) Jim Powell wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:31:20 -0700 > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > Subject: apexcone.com > > If anyone wants anything off apexcone.com, get it today. Not tomorrow, > not tonight, today. The page is going away. Half you idiots don't hve > the sense God gave to bacteria. I'm not spending my money to pound > square pegs into round holes anymore. The page will be gone by 6pm. > > Jim > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > *************************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:46:56 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com Did I miss something or is J.A.P. just having a bad day? Suzy Jim Powell wrote: > If anyone wants anything off apexcone.com, get it today. Not tomorrow, > not tonight, today. The page is going away. Half you idiots don't hve > the sense God gave to bacteria. I'm not spending my money to pound > square pegs into round holes anymore. The page will be gone by 6pm. > > Jim >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com --- nabli@attglobal.net wrote: > Ok, what did I miss? Damn, now I have to pdf. the WHOLE site! D'oh! > > Cheers, > Jim E. > aka: Mr. amoeba :-) Ok...who pissed Powell off? Chester aka: Mr. Hydra <-- At least I'm multicellular! ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
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#10. Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:29:32 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com I bet it was me with my "how many brake pads are supposed to have clips" and "nope, I can't fit my 8.5" wheels up front with camber shims." I did look at the BMW MPower, Apexcone and Racepad sites before asking about the brakes though.;) Some of us just like to steer away from common sense and ask the questions that we probably already know the answers to down deep, but just like to get confirmation from list members. I certainly don't like to loose a resource though. C'mon Jim, don't toss it. Jonathan L. > >Did I miss something or is J.A.P. just having a bad day? > >Suzy > >Jim Powell wrote: > > > If anyone wants anything off apexcone.com, get it today. Not tomorrow, > > not tonight, today. The page is going away. Half you idiots don't hve > > the sense God gave to bacteria. I'm not spending my money to pound > > square pegs into round holes anymore. The page will be gone by 6pm. > > > > Jim > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#11. Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:40:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] apexcone.com All I can think is either something got stolen, or lawsuit. Or just too many questions? - reid > Ok, what did I miss? Damn, now I have to pdf. the WHOLE site! D'oh! > > Cheers, > Jim E. > aka: Mr. amoeba :-) > > > > Jim Powell wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:31:20 -0700 > > From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> > > Subject: apexcone.com > > > > If anyone wants anything off apexcone.com, get it today. Not tomorrow, > > not tonight, today. The page is going away. Half you idiots don't hve > > the sense God gave to bacteria. I'm not spending my money to pound > > square pegs into round holes anymore. The page will be gone by 6pm. > > > > Jim > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message. > > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#12. Suspension Reviews - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:32:54 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: Suspension Reviews Since I am bound to get this from a few more people, here is what I have done and what I plan on doing. Version 1.0: Stock Review: Good but who doesn't want the unfair advantage? ------ Version 2.0: H&R springs + Bilstein shocks + RD Sport sway bars + Ground Control rear shock mounts Review: I thought that it handled better but the ride was TERRIBLE!!!! It was so uncomfortable and you felt EVERY bump in the road so I had to take it out of the car. It did look cool lowered a bit. As a side note, I didn't ever trim the bump stops so I can't vouch for whether that would help or not. At some point here, I put forged 8.5" wheels all around with 245/40/17 SO2's ------ Version 3.0: Euro springs + stock shocks + UUC sway bars + TC Kline camber plates + Ground Control rear shock mounts Review: What a difference! The handling is amazing and it is back to being comfortable on the road. The tires are wearing a bit funny with the 2.75 degrees of negative camber. The ride height went back up to stock too. It felt better (and faster) on my favorite set of twisties on street tires than with Version 2.0 on gForce R1's (I had to try that once). I welded in the sway bar reinforcements here after tearing one off the car and ripping the other one mostly off the car. ------ Version 4.0: H&R springs + Koni shocks + UUC sway bars + TC Kline camber plates + Ground Control rear shock mounts + TC Kline aluminum monoball rear trailing arm bushings Review: We'll see in about 2 weeks. For some reason, I just wanted adjustable shocks so I could play with them at the track/autocross. I was told by the salesman at TC Kline that it should lower the car (which it did last time too) but that the ride should still be acceptable with the Koni's. I had originally planned on putting the Koni's in with the Euro springs but, when you buy the package as a whole, the springs only added about $200 to what I would have been paying for just the shocks. I plan on lessening the front camber to around -2 degrees when I have it realigned with the new parts. ------ Most common question: why didn't I go with a coil-over kit? That is a good question. I think that I became jaded 2 years ago when a friend of mine put a coil-over kit on his M3 and couldn't stand the ride so he took it off. Now, I know that some people on this list swear that it is more comfortable than the other setups available (Kit?) but it was more expensive (not the limiting factor but a contributor) and I wanted to minimize the risk of not enjoying the ride again. I don't really have any other valid reasons. -Wayne