E36M3 #1311

Monday, May 21, 2001 21:10:10

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#1. Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production - from Legerlotz, Alan
#2. [OT] Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? - from Anthony Le
#3. RE: [E36M3] [OT] Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? - from Fadeev, Alex
#4. Limited E46M3 Production - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
#5. RE: [E36M3] power loss - from Lee Conte
#6. Track day Packing - from Eric Fesler
#7. Re: E36 M3 Wierd Enging Sound - from Bill P
#8. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 exclusivity (and ownership) - from Josh
#9. flywheel maker? - from Paul Elliott
#10. Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production - from Mdriver13@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production - from Legerlotz, Alan
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:21:59 -0400 From: "Legerlotz, Alan" <alegerlotz@kronos.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production >> is almost as foolish as expecting truck and SUV drivers to be courteous. You're right! When I'm not driving my BMW, and instead driving my tow vehicle (a Truck based SUV) I do a Jekyl and Hyde and change my driving to make sure that I'm not courteous to anyone. It says to do that in the owners manual... What a crock of $hit. If someone were to characterize all BMW drivers as obnoxious, self absorbed yuppie scum, I'm sure you'd be the first one to tell them how unfair that is and that's its just not true. I do agree that hearing that M3 production will be limited from a salesperson should be taken with a grain of salt. The salesperson has something to gain by telling you this...they can sell you an M3 NOW for a huge markup. The other possibility is that they are being told this by someone up the food chain who is trying to manipulate what they do. Personally, I don't believe it for a second. -Al 1996 328is (#328 JS) 1998 740il (hers) 2001 Suburban 3/4 ton (the evil SUV)

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#2. [OT]  Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? - from Anthony Le
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:17:50 -0500 From: Anthony Le <anthony.le@wcom.com> Subject: [OT] Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? Looking for place close to Addison area. thanks, anthony 95 ////M3

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#3. RE: [E36M3] [OT]  Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? - from Fadeev, Alex
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:55:07 -0500 From: "Fadeev, Alex" <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] [OT] Where can I get Lexol & Vinylex in Dallas? Anthony Le [mailto:anthony.le@wcom.com] wrote: > > Looking for place close to Addison area. Anthony, John Roberts (SE corner of 35/635) has it for a marginal markup. If time permits, consider ordering from www.carcareonline.com alex f P.S.: Here is our LSC chapter's web site http://www.flash.net/~dbrjohn/

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#4. Limited E46M3 Production - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:34:41 -0400 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Limited E46M3 Production >I just can't believe it. Why would BMW who just sold 50000+ E36 M3's decide, >well, let's make the car more exclusive and only sell 15000 or 20000 of the new >model . . . that is absolutely crazy. I guess we'll see, as it's all pure >speculation at this point . . .. >>>>>I was talking w/my salesman about the new M3 last week. He told me I >would have a 10 month wait if I wanted to order one. He also said that >the new M3 will be a limited production car like the M5.<<<< The E46 M3 production will be limited. Limited to the number they can produce and sell. BMW learned their lesson with the E28 M5. They are not going to guarantee low production numbers so customers can have an exclusive car. They will make as many as they can sell. Shane Kleinpeter Tarheel Chapter '88 535is for sale '96 M3 '93 325i/is <-- searching

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#5. RE: [E36M3] power loss - from Lee Conte
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:38:21 -0700 From: "Lee Conte" <leeconte@home.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] power loss <Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:42:53 -0700 <From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> <Subject: Re: [E36M3] power loss < <At 12:44 AM -0500 5/20/01, Lee Conte wrote: <> I have a stock 98 M3 coupe. For the past few days, I haven't <been driving <> it very hard, but I've been noticing it just hasn't felt <"right", just not <> as much of a blast to drive as usual. < <How many miles? Original fuel filter? My mechanic just replaced <that on my '97 M3 (32000 miles)... It actually has 78k miles, but I just had an Inspection II done. I had the thought last night that perhaps the previous owner somehow reversed the function of the ASC button so that it's actually off by default (I've been ignoring the ASC button until a few days ago when I started making a point of turning it off). I haven't had a chance to go out and test that theory yet though. Is that a common modification, or possible at least? Lee Conte Spring Valley CA US NIA#6917

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#6. Track day Packing - from Eric Fesler
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:55:55 -0700 From: "Eric Fesler" <fesler@nsc.com> Subject: Track day Packing I remember seeing a great writeup on equipment to bring to track events. As I will be attending my first Track School at Laguna this Friday I would apreciate it if anyone has a link to something like this or general advice for that matter. I am planning on taking both my R and street tires and running possibly on the streets all day but I might stick the R's on at the end. Very psyched, Eric Fesler

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#7. Re: E36 M3 Wierd Enging Sound - from Bill P
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:38:45 -0400 From: "Bill P" <casanova@yorkhost.com> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Wierd Enging Sound My car is a 1995 M3 with a Powerdyne SC and Schrik cams. Recently I have been hearing this wierd sound comeing from my motor. It's a clunking type of sound that is comeing from the back (under the oil cap) of the motor. The sound gets faster as the engine spins faster but it also quiets down as rpm's rise (The motor reving could also be drowing out the sound). It does not sound like a lifter or valve. It is not a metal to metal tapping sound. Sounds like some type of vacum or exhaust leak. The sound does not get lou8der when I put my hand over the muffler tips so that rules out the exhasut leak. Are there any type of vacum hoses around the back of the motor or inside the valve train area that have been known to come loose? Bill P

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#8. Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 exclusivity (and ownership) - from Josh
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:17 -0600 From: Josh <eurosprt@xmission.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46 M3 exclusivity (and ownership) I happen to agree with John on this. This rumor of limited production thread inspired me to refer to the November issue of Roundel and the short article "HORSEPOWER-FROM THE HORSES MOUTH" pg. 36 written by Jeremy Walton where Walton writes "The engines are all built and power tested at the company's oldest Munich factory, and production capacity restraints will be the limiting factor on the M3 output. Even so BMW M expects the newcomer to beat the 71,269 mark of the 1992-99 M3 assembled at Regensberg." My own take on the E46 M3 and production is if BMW were trying to mount a limited production campaign I don't think that the M3 would be as cheap as it is. Aside from whatever may or may not be causing a volume problem in the E46 M3 production level nothing nauseates me more that to hear people say that there are too many M3's. The idea that there are too many M3's is like the idea that there could be too many good times, too many beautiful women (or men for Suzy and other so-inclined listers), or you could die having too many friends. The only possible hypothetical downside to too many M3's (as in if no other types of cars existed) is that we wouldn't have occasion to travel in lessor transports which help us as M3 owners re-establish the deep appreciation of fine motoring. BTW I have had a chance to put almost 3000 miles on my new E46 M3 and feel that it would be safe to say that it easily lives up to it's BMW Motorsport heritage. Many of the 1 time drive review type postings on the E46 M3 that have appeared here and elsewhere often seem to fall short of comprehending to depth and breadth of the performance of the new M3. In a way I can understand that it is hard to appreciate any car from a single test drive, but here is my 02 cents on the improved design changes in the new model. 1. Substantial improvement in the high speed stability and high speed cornering capability of the new M3. In my opinion this high speed stability has very little to do with the ~240lb weight increase of the E46 M3 vs the E36 M3 as I have had many a high speed run with a loaded E36 M3 up our local canyons. I attribute this high speed stability to the improved underbody aerodynamic panel system. It is a truly fantastic feeling to experience. Everyone I have taken out in and let drive my new M3 is amazed at how planted the car is at high speeds and how difficult it is to believe that the speedometer is not mis-calibrated 100mph literally feels like 65. 2. Significant benefit of the top speed through gearing, engine max speed, and engine power. I am very surprised by those who say that they aren't all that impressed with the acceleration as it is the most easily recognized change in the new M3. The new M3 will easily and I mean EASILY overtake pretty much any car at high speed. You will have no problem accessing throttle oversteer in the new M3. 3. Suspension stiffness increase with little ride quality sacrifice. Out of the box the suspension has the aggressive sport feel much like that found in the M Roadster without all of the excess road noise/feedback. A rigidity that can be surprisingly forgiving over less that smooth road surfaces. 4. Anything but numb chassis. One of the most pronounced improvements noted from a month of piloting of the new M3 is the incredibly rigid chassis. The stiffness of the chassis combined with the suspension add more feel/feedback than was had in previous generation M3's. The rigidity of the new chassis is so significant you almost get the feeling that the car has a roll cage installed. 5. As good as the braking is it got better with the new M3 6. Interior quality takes a significant upgrade. After turning wrenches at the dealer and having worked on many an E36 what becomes apparent with the E46 is the improvements BMW made on the quality of the interior components. The interior of the new M3 is minus much of the creaks and squeaks that plagued the previous models. A quick thump of the fist on the door panels, center console, dash, etc. will give you a good idea of improved quality of the interior. $54K car = $54K interior. The only tragedy of the new M3 is that there aren't more available. Hopefully this will change soon. Regards Josh Eurosport At 03:04 PM 5/21/01 -0500, you wrote: >-------------------- 9 -------------------- >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:30:14 -0700 (PDT) >From: John Bergstrom <john0990@yahoo.com> >Subject: E46 M3 exclusivity > >I just can't believe it. Why would BMW who just sold 50000+ E36 M3's decide, >well, let's make the car more exclusive and only sell 15000 or 20000 of >the new >model . . . that is absolutely crazy. I guess we'll see, as it's all pure >speculation at this point . . .. > > >>>>I was talking w/my salesman about the new M3 last week. He told me I >would have a 10 month wait if I wanted to order one. He also said that >the new M3 will be a limited production car like the M5.<<<< > >John >'95 M3 Josh MacMurray Eurosport Your source for Jim Conforti / Landshark products Shark Injectors and Shark Intake Systems Phone 801 886 2185 fax 801 886 2189 www.sharkinfested.com

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#9. flywheel maker? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:14:10 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: flywheel maker? Have any of you heard of a company called Paeco industries? A friend = of mine found a deal of a heavy duty clutch, and 9 lb flywheel for our M3 for only $1100....They apparently will make flywheels for most imports, and will, in cases like this, provide a suitable clutch as well.

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#10. Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:08:54 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3]Limited E46M3 Production In a message dated 5/21/01 3:54:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve.challice@mscsoftware.com writes: I was talking w/my salesman about the new M3 last week. He told me I > would have a 10 month wait if I wanted to order one. He also said that > the new M3 will be a limited production car like the M5. I seem to remember being told in late 95 that there was no telling when BMW would stop production of the M3. Well...70,000+ cars later we now know the answer ;-)) Same dealer strategy now, just new model. BTW, I pulled the trigger and placed my order in the fall of 96, call me chicken! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001

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