E36M3 #1350

Tuesday, June 05, 2001 12:23:24

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Chester Wong
#2. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Carey Probst
#3. Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities - from Neil Maller
#4. > 8. Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from scott yu
#5. Re: replacement windshield - from John Genereux
#6. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Luis Veras
#7. Re: [E36M3] Rotex VS Porterfields R4S- was Street/Light Autox - from Daniel Smith
#8. OT Re: [E36M3] Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities - from Steven Tom
#9. Insurance coverage for wheels? - from Jeff Stowe
#10. RE: Replacement Windshield - from Richard Buchanan

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads > pretty much got killed in pricing (I paid almost $800 for it). Back then > someone on this list suggested that I could have gotten everything (except > of course the labor) through mail order for around $350. That person would be me. > Well, a friend of > mine has to change his dics and pads now, and I told him that I would find Oh man, if Powell were on this list, he'd have a field day with that sentence! > out for him where to get them in the US through mail order, so he doesn't > get squated as I did. That's where you guys come in. Where can I order these > through mail order? Maybe online? It depends. You're planning on having these items shipped to the Dominican Republic? If you pay for my airfare, I'll carry them over ;) > Also, would you suggest to go stock all around? I heard of some pads that > develop low dust, brake just as good as stock, and sliglty cheaper, do you > know what brand they are? ('cause I can't remember). What about their > lifetime? Do they last more than stock? With the exception of track dedicated pads, the stock ones are really good. But life is full of compromises. So for the performance, they dust a nasty black color. You live in the Dominican Republic...it's always nice weather there, right? :) Just keep a bottle of the BMW wheel cleaner (nasty stuff, but works tons better than P21S) around ;) Some suggest Porterfield R4S or Rotex or a few others. Personally, I'm staying with stockers for street and swap to PF-90s for the track (though I'll be moving to PF-97s when the 90s wear out). > What about discs? I heard someone suggesting brembo discs. Are they better > than stock? What about euro floating discs? Brembos are less expensive than OE rotors. Euro rotors look nice but they might not be worth it depending on what your use. > If the price is right, I might also order a full set for myself of whatever > my friend gets, so I am ready for my next change, whenever that may be. (Any > idea when this will be? How many miles do you get between pads and/or disc > changes?) Again, depends on driving style. People at the track can go through a set of rotors like tissue. Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Carey Probst
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:23:32 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads Depending on brand you want, www.ultimategarage.com - good pricing, very knowledible www.hmsmotorsport.com - ditto www.turnermotorsport.com - ditto www.bavauto.com - more pretty stuff than go-go but good www.motorworks.com - go-go and pretty stuff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:34:45 -0400 > From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > Subject: Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads > > As some of you might remember, about a month ago I changed my discs and > pads. Also, as some of you migh know, I am in the Dominican Republic, so I > pretty much got killed in pricing (I paid almost $800 for it). Back then > someone on this list suggested that I could have gotten everything (except > of course the labor) through mail order for around $350. Well, a friend of > mine has to change his dics and pads now, and I told him that I would find > out for him where to get them in the US through mail order, so he doesn't > get squated as I did. That's where you guys come in. Where can I order these > through mail order? Maybe online? > > Also, would you suggest to go stock all around? I heard of some pads that > develop low dust, brake just as good as stock, and sliglty cheaper, do you > know what brand they are? ('cause I can't remember). What about their > lifetime? Do they last more than stock? > > What about discs? I heard someone suggesting brembo discs. Are they better > than stock? What about euro floating discs? > > If the price is right, I might also order a full set for myself of whatever > my friend gets, so I am ready for my next change, whenever that may be. (Any > idea when this will be? How many miles do you get between pads and/or disc > changes?) > > Thanks for everything! > > Luis > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >

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#3. Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:25:12 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities on 6/5/01 12:23 AM, kmcleaster@iquest.net wrote: > I'm thinking that 15W50 is a bit too heavy for the midwest, even in the > summer. It's not well known, but you can easily buy Mobil 1 in 10W-40 grade. It's made for 4 stroke motorcycles and is available at cycle stores. Neil 96 M3

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#4. >   8. Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from scott yu
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:28:02 -0400 From: "scott yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: > 8. Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads Luis, if you're going for a good price, Cox Imports (www.coximport.com, call and ask for Mike) in the Carolinas has brembo rotors (just like stock) for $69, Rotex Gold pads (no dust, no noise, SLIGHTLY less bite than stock, wonderful for street) for $50-something per axle and FREE SHIPPING for the whole lot. I did front and rear pads + front rotors for less than $250 total. Steve D at www.ultimategarage.com sells the Brembos for less at $60 apiece, but I don't know his shipping costs. Another good pad alternative (little more dust than rotex, a teeny bit more stopping power) is Performance Friction Z-rated, you can get both front and rear for $99 including shipping from www.nationalfleetparts.com Hope this helps, scott yu > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:34:45 -0400 > From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > Subject: Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads <content edited> > get squated as I did. That's where you guys come in. Where can I order these > through mail order? Maybe online? > > Also, would you suggest to go stock all around? I heard of some pads that > develop low dust, brake just as good as stock, and sliglty cheaper, do you > know what brand they are? ('cause I can't remember). What about their > lifetime? Do they last more than stock?

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#5. Re: replacement windshield - from John Genereux
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John Genereux <white98m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: replacement windshield Hello all, as for the replacement windshields I have had great luck with New England Mobile auto glass(in MA). They use factory BMW glass and it looks brand new when finished. My friend also used them on his 540i and they did a great job. If your insurance is anal the take a small ball peen hammer and give the glass a few good taps about 1/3 the way in from the edge this will put a nice crack in it. JOHN ===== ///M3's and Jet Skis/// __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads - from Luis Veras
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:35:50 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for suggestions re. brake discs and pads > It depends. You're planning on having these items shipped to the Dominican > Republic? If you pay for my airfare, I'll carry them over ;) Maybe some other day. However, do you smoke cigars? I own a cigar manufacturing company here, so if you want to I can send you a few, as long as you pay shipping. > With the exception of track dedicated pads, the stock ones are really good. > But life is full of compromises. So for the performance, they dust a nasty > black color. You live in the Dominican Republic...it's always nice weather > there, right? :) Just keep a bottle of the BMW wheel cleaner (nasty stuff, but > works tons better than P21S) around ;) I don't really mind the dust that much, but I thought if they were the same performance and lower price, why not go for aftermarket low dusters? In your opinion, you would say stockers are better than low dust pads? > Brembos are less expensive than OE rotors. Euro rotors look nice but they > might not be worth it depending on what your use. I have the 10 double spoke motorsport wheels, so euro rotors might not even be noticed that much. But my friend does have the 5 spoke wheels, in his case euro rotors might be worth it. The only difference between euro and stock is the look? For me, I guess it's either stock or brembos. Other than price, any difference between those? Someone said that brembos use a machining process to balance them, whereas stocks use a spring clip. Any pros/cons? We don't mind paying more for stock IF the extra is worth it, but if the performance is the same, then I'll go for brembos. FWIW, I do tend to drive pretty hard most of the time. > Again, depends on driving style. People at the track can go through a set of > rotors like tissue. Give me your best guess for 30% of really hard street driving, 50% of fairly hard street driving and 20% of slightly-harder-than-normal driving. Thanks for all your input!

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Rotex VS Porterfields R4S- was Street/Light Autox - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:50:11 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotex VS Porterfields R4S- was Street/Light Autox Brake pads? At 1:13 PM -0500 6/4/01, DASGUNZZ@aol.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 14:04:56 EDT > From: DASGUNZZ@aol.com > Subject: Rotex VS Porterfields R4S- was Street/Light Autox Brake pads? > > I'm just curious if anyone has tried both of these pads an can give me a > > comparison. I'm looking for low dust and good performance but *do not* > want > to drive a squealing pig. I'm just finishing up a set of R4S's.. they made a fair bit of noise. Daniel -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA

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#8. OT Re: [E36M3] Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities - from Steven Tom
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:33:32 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: OT Re: [E36M3] Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities Off Topic In general, you don't want to run full synthetics in motorcycles because the of the wet clutch. Now if you ride a Ducati or something with a dry clutch it wouldn't really matter. steve At 10:33 AM 6/5/01 -0500, Neil Maller wrote: >Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:25:12 -0500 >From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> >Subject: Re: Mixing Mobil 1 Viscosities > >on 6/5/01 12:23 AM, kmcleaster@iquest.net wrote: > > > I'm thinking that 15W50 is a bit too heavy for the midwest, even in the > > summer. > >It's not well known, but you can easily buy Mobil 1 in 10W-40 grade. It's >made for 4 stroke motorcycles and is available at cycle stores. > >Neil >96 M3

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#9. Insurance coverage for wheels? - from Jeff Stowe
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Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 09:38:32 -0700 From: Jeff Stowe <jrstowe@pacbell.net> Subject: Insurance coverage for wheels? Thanks to brick sitting right at the apex of one of my favorite on ramps, I completely destroyed a brand new (1200 miles) SSR comp and perhaps a brand new Yoko AVS Sport. Does anyone know if my Comprehensive coverage from State farm will cover this (less deductible of course)? I have a call into them but I am sitting hear in grief and looking for some ray of hope. BTW, I feel pretty confident that my stock contours would have taken the same blow without damage. Something to consider before spending big bucks on lightweight forged wheels for street use : ( thanks jeff

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#10. RE: Replacement Windshield - from Richard   Buchanan
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 10:48:22 -0700 From: "Richard Buchanan" <rbuchanan@quiq.com> Subject: RE: Replacement Windshield Make sure to specify the BMW OEM weather-strip around the windshield with the water diversion gutter. Most installers use generic weather-strip and water from the wipers will wash around the side of the pillar and into the car at speed if your side windows are open. Rich

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