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#1. RE:UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - from Paul Kopecki
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 08:35:09 -0500 From: "Paul Kopecki" <Paul_Kopecki@transwestern.net> Subject: RE:UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST -----Original Message----- From: E36M3 [mailto:e36m3@bmw-m.net] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:25 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 #1391 This digest contains the following messages: 1. Re: [E36M3] BMW dash illumination wavelength? by: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.com> 2. Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? by: scott <scott@ditherdog.com> 3. 1998 BMW M3 - Located Northern New Jersey by: Tim Fogerson <timmy@cybernex.net> 4. JTD Under Panel by: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> 5. M3 Model Changes 98-99 by: Brent Williams <brent@williamsconsultingltd.com> 6. Re: [E36M3] Excessive wear on inner front tires... by: Chris Teague <cteague@home.com> 7. For Sale: 97 M3 Coupe by: Bill MacKrell <bmackrell@va.adelphia.net> 8. Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? by: Jay <jguzman@hawaii.edu> 9. RE: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? by: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> 10. Re: [E36M3] '95 Manual Climate Control system, water pump, etc. by: <LoweSeaton@aol.com> -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:48:21 -0400 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <rob@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW dash illumination wavelength? 405nm as I recall. - Rob > -------------------- 3 -------------------- > Subject: BMW dash illumination wavelength? > > I remember reading somewhere (Roundel?) an article about BMW's > research into dash illumination, and it gave the wavelength they use > (around 600nm). Does anyone have that exact spec? > > Thanks, > Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:01:53 -0400 From: "scott " <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? My apologies to Luis - I really thought the humor in this was self-evident, but I'm continually surprised at how poorly my sarcasm-based humor travels through email ;) You're in the DR, right? I'm not sure if you've seen the hype for the movie "the Fast and the Furious," but that was the humorous reference I used to try and convey the joke. Sorry 'bout the mixup. M3-relevant content: I won the battle of the tie rods. Last week my friend Scott and I attempted to separate the inner and outer tie rods, using a torch, a 5-lb engineer's hammer, vise grips, and a lot of harsh language. While the latter was probably the most effective, the end result was failure - these things freeze up like the polar ice caps. Last Sunday a fellow lister (Thanks, John!) said "I've got a HUGE pair of channelock pliers you can use," and it turned out to be relatively easy to peel back the locking plate on the inner tie rod securing nut, and unscrew the inner rod from the steering rack using John's Big-Channel-Lock-Of-Death pliers. While I wasn't able to retorque the new nut perfectly to spec, I think the lockplate should prevent the tie rod from working itself loose. Moral of the story? Don't bother trying to separate inner and outer rods, just get it right from the rack. And don't forget to order new lockpates and boot clamps :) Also, that inner nut has a thin 32mm flange - if you've got a thin-wall fan clutch wrench it will fit. best, scott ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:33:21 -0400 >I may be missing something here, but how the hell does a loudspeaker to >SOUND like a turbo give you an additional 40-50 HP? > -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:21:44 -0400 From: "Tim Fogerson" <timmy@cybernex.net> Subject: 1998 BMW M3 - Located Northern New Jersey 1998 BMW M3 2DR Cosmos Black All of the standard M3 stuff plus: - Compact Disc Changer - Cruise Control - Heated Front Seats - Onboard Computer - Power Sunroof - Jim Conforti Firmware Upgrade - Clear Lenses - X-brace - Upgraded Transmission Mounts - BL/SS Short Shifter w/ERK (installed by Ben himself!!) - BF Goodrich G-Force KDs - 55,000 Highway Miles - Excellent Condition - $27,500 obo I hate to do this, but I just bought a house and must sell the M3 in order to have any chance of getting my Formula Continental on the track very often this year. I haven't been pushing the sale of this car yet, but now it is time (so I've dropped the price). This car is in excellent condition. It has never been abused and has never seen the track (that's what the Continental is for). It has literally been used as a commuter car over the last three years bombing up and down Rt. 80 on my 64 mile RT daily commute (actually kinda sad). Hell, I think I made it 42,000 miles on the original MXX3s!! Located in Oak Ridge, NJ (kinda near 287 & 80). Contact: Tim 973.208.9747 (H) 973.967.6679 (W) timmy@cybernex.net -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:50:59 -0700 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: JTD Under Panel Hi All, Does anyone have a JTD under panel installed on their M3? If anyone has a picture of what it looks like installed, I'd appreciate if you can send me a picture. Cheers, Roman -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:06:24 -0400 From: "Brent Williams" <brent@williamsconsultingltd.com> Subject: M3 Model Changes 98-99 OK Here is a question for all you E36 experts: What is the oldest M3 with all the goodies you can get on it? For example I know mid year 98 the M3 got rear headrests and a few other things. So what else has been added in 98 and 99? For someone wanting all the goodies, do you have to get a 99 or can you get away with a 98.5? What are the differences? Brent -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:14:44 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Excessive wear on inner front tires... Luis, Either you have too much camber (unlikely unless you have modified the car), or you have too much toe out in front. I would have the toe checked. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:11:24 -0400 > From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > Subject: Excessive wear on inner front tires... > > Hi again, > > I removed my left front wheel to add the roundel logo that had been missing > from that wheel for about a couple of weeks. Anyway, when I removed it, I > noticed that even though my tires are basically new (about 3,000 miles), and > they all look new from every angle when they are placed on the car (maybe > 85-95% of thread left), the inner part of this tire was all worn out, maybe > like 30-45% left. I then decided to check all tires, and the rear tires look > good all around, but both front tires are pretty worn out on the inner side. > The outer side and the middle are good as new. I balance and align the tires > regularly. Is this normal? What could have possibly caused this? Any input > is appreciated. Thanks. -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 21:48:37 -0400 From: "Bill MacKrell" <bmackrell@va.adelphia.net> Subject: For Sale: 97 M3 Coupe I am selling my 1997 BMW M3 Coupe, Arctic Silver Metallic/Black leather interior. Options include: Sport Seats, Power Windows and door locks, 5-speed manual, H/K Sound, Power sunroof, OBC, Folding rear seats, Cruise Control, Heated Front Seats, Euro clear lens front & rear. Excellent condition, 68,000 miles, fairly new Michelins Pilot Sports, no accidents, no dents, non-smoker, garaged, exterior & interior immaculately cared for, always used Mobil-1. Excellent condition: $27,000 OBO. This car has not been raced or abused and has been my daily commuter for the last three years therefore these are mainly highway miles here along the Northern VA high-tech corridor. This is a great car! Bill MacKrell (703) 593-9880 (day) (703) 724-0174 (home) bmackrell@va.adelphia.net <mailto:bmackrell@va.adelphia.net> -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:17:31 -1000 From: Jay <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? i think it was a joke...it's supposed to read 50-60 HP ;) ...does ANY blow off valve out there sound like "type 3"...it sounded more like a toy space gun than a blow off valve to me... Luis Veras wrote: > I may be missing something here, but how the hell does a loudspeaker to > SOUND like a turbo give you an additional 40-50 HP? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scott " <scott@ditherdog.com> > > > > > http://www.takakaira.com/accessories/nightpager/nightpager.html > -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:48:41 -0700 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? you guys are both wrong!!! i saw a dyno chart showing an 80 HP gain and 90db of torque. i don't know where you guys get your info!!!...sheesh :P -----Original Message----- From: Jay To: E36M3 Sent: 6/18/01 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:17:31 -1000 From: Jay <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Group Purchase, anyone? i think it was a joke...it's supposed to read 50-60 HP ;) ...does ANY blow off valve out there sound like "type 3"...it sounded more like a toy space gun than a blow off valve to me... Luis Veras wrote: > I may be missing something here, but how the hell does a loudspeaker to > SOUND like a turbo give you an additional 40-50 HP? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "scott " <scott@ditherdog.com> > > > > > http://www.takakaira.com/accessories/nightpager/nightpager.html > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 00:07:42 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] '95 Manual Climate Control system, water pump, etc. Reid, Be careful what you ask for. ;-) From hearing people describe how the '96+ Digital HVAC system works, it sounds like the digital one has a mind of its own and does all sorts of annoying things. At least with the '95 analog HVAC system when you set the blower speed, you know where the heck it is going to stay. It won't go into "auto" mode and blast you when you first start the engine. I would not worry too much about equally adjusting the temperature knobs. If you don't have a passenger, why bother? Let him/her adjust it. Besides, if you can tell a difference when adjusting the passenger side temp, you are a better man than me. I don't know about you, but here in Texas the M3 A/C is just barely adequate. And I mean BARELY. I usually just turn the driver's side temp all the way COLD. You do know when you turn the driver's side temp knob all the way COLD or all the way HOT, it defaults and overrides the passenger side temp? Read the owner's manual for more info about this feature. As for retrofitting the '96+ Digital HVAC into a '95? It can be done but it is very expensive and tedious. I think one of our list members - John Firestone - did this. I don't know if he would ever do it again. When the '96 M3 came out with the "cool" Digital HVAC, I was pissed. I wanted it! But now I am glad I have the old fashioned rotary knob version. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas ************************************************************** Digest Commands UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. **************************************************************
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#2. RE730 impressions - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:26:17 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: RE730 impressions They work great on the rears, very predictably when they are about to give. Not much vocal feedback, but smooth. The fronts are a little different. They will talk to you when they are unhappy. I switched from S-02's to RE-730 (235/40 to 225/45) and the 730's will make plenty of noise when braking, as well as when pushing them through corners. I think that's good for newbies like me. I think I'll go with the S02 or 03 in the front and the cheapest tire I can find in the rear next time. Jonathan 95 M3 LTW wheels
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#3. FS: 97 M3/4 - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:27:04 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: FS: 97 M3/4 For sale: 1997 BMW M3 sedan 5-speed manual Cosmos black metallic Dove gray leather interior Bilstein Sport shocks H&R Sport springs Racing Dynamics adjustable swaybars Lower X-brace Upgraded gearbox mounts Stainless steel brake lines Bimmerworld front brake ducts Motorsport 2-piece front rotors PF90 and OEM brake pads Traction control Harman Kardon stereo w/cassette BMW 6-disc CD changer On-board computer Cruise control Sunroof Fold-down rear seats Factory rear spoiler Power windows and door locks Dual airbags ABS All synthetic fluids Excellent condition Fanatically maintained No accidents No dents Non-smoker 48K miles Must sell. Asking $28,900 Digital photos available This car has been my daily driver for the past two years and has been to three driving schools. If you're looking for a 4-door M3 that's already set up for driving schools, you won't find a better one. I'm also willing to sell it without the track parts for a lower price. Bob Stommel Indianapolis (317) 271-7879 (office) (317) 271-6245 (home) rstommel@iquest.net
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#4. Re: E-36 Rear Window Spoiler For Sale - from Jay Miller
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:34:14 -0700 From: "Jay Miller" <jjmiller6@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: E-36 Rear Window Spoiler For Sale I'll take it. '95 Dakar yellow. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#5. FS: 2001 E46 M3C at the Dealer - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:00:33 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: FS: 2001 E46 M3C at the Dealer In case anyone is in the market for an M3 convertible. I called my dealer: http://www.bluegrassbmw.com/ and this car came up during our conversation. I have used used this dealer for the past 7 years and refuse to deal with anyone else. This car will be sold for list price - i.e., NO market adjustments. It is an April 2001 production car. Imola Red Black leather Black top cold weather package in dash cd harmon kardon The list price is $56,720.00 CONTACT: DJ Matchem Bluegrass BMW 3235 Park Avenue Paducah, Kentucky 42001 Phone (270) 444-6632 Fax (270) 442-9765 Cheers, Jim E.
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#6. Re: RE730 impressions - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 13:23:58 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: RE730 impressions Dan, I guess having different tires front and rear would affect handling, but hey, what doesn't. As long as you find out what that difference is. I'm still confused about the whole understeer/oversteer thing anyway. My old VW would plow through corners, but if you went in too fast and lifted off the throttle, you get serious oversteer (right in a ditch). The old miata was pretty much neutral, but you could goose it to swing the rear out (great for autocross). But then it seemed like it was understeering sometimes. I swear it has a lot to do with the throttle and how the car is weighted. The M3 is very tossable, but still easy to swing the rear out if you punch the throttle. But when you brake and try to steer, good luck. The only time I could really tell on the M3 was at turn one at VIR (my first and only track event) in March where you could hold a turn for what seemed like forever. Long sweeper to the right. You would roll on the throttle and keep the steering wheel in the same spot, and lo and behold, the car would inch inside as though you were steering into the inside of the turn. I'm sure that this happens on every turn, it's just that it happens so quickly that I can't feel/see/hear it. Practice practice! -Jonathan 95 m3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Miley" <dmiley@rcn.com> To: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: Re: RE730 impressions > Thanks, Jonathan. Looks like I'm doing the right thing. I have generally > heard good things about the RE730s except for reports that they get noisy > after 5K miles or so. > snip
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#7. Cheapest source for front wheel bearings... - from Juan Rico
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:39:19 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: Cheapest source for front wheel bearings... Hi all, I just replaced my tie rods and that didn't take care of the snapping clunking sound, so now I'll give my front wheel bearings a try... Can somebody tell me where I can find them at a good price? Juan.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Cheapest source for front wheel bearings... - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:55:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cheapest source for front wheel bearings... A fellow list member recently experienced a clunking sound after installing new bearings. It turned out that his brake pads were glazed and were getting caught up on the rotor. Otherwise, if you want to replace the wheel bearings, Steve D should be able to help you with parts. HTH, Chester --- Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just replaced my tie rods and that didn't take care of the snapping > clunking sound, > so now I'll give my front wheel bearings a try... > Can somebody tell me where I can find them at a good price? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/
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#9. Thanks for shop recommendations - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:28:58 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: Thanks for shop recommendations Thanks to everyone who sent recommendations for Peninsula shops. I've passed the info on. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - currently at Bill Arnold's for Inspec II and rear wheel bearing > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jbassett@geysernetworks.com] > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:05 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] SF Bay Area Shop needed - Peninsula > > > Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:54:06 -0700 > From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> > Subject: SF Bay Area Shop needed - Peninsula > > Hi folks, > > I'm looking for a recommendation for a good independent BMW > mechanic on the > Peninsula - anywhere from Belmont to Mt. View. A friend would > like to find a > indep. mechanic instead of always taking the car to the dealer. > > (It seems that that is the only place in the SF Bay Area that > I *don't* know > of a good shop :-)) > > Thanks, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > >
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#10. timing change of brake flush and microfilter- opinions desired - from Olin, Jason (NIMH)
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:00:14 -0400 From: "Olin, Jason (NIMH)" <jolin@mail.nih.gov> Subject: timing change of brake flush and microfilter- opinions desired Hi- Relevant background: I have a 97 M3 couple (May 97 manufacturing date). It's stock and not used for racing-just for fun and commuting. In 5/99 (25K mi) the microfilter and brake flush were done. In 2/00 Inspection II was done. The inspection light is now on and I brought it to BMW excluservice. They said that there is no need to replace the microfilter for another year and same for the brake flush. They recommended simply an oil service. Does this make sense or should I stick to the owner's manual guidelines? Feel free to reply to me directly, Jason Olin Rockville MD