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#1. Re: [E36M3] Suspension set up - from Steven Tom
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:11:41 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension set up I'm going to be doing my suspension soon. Is there a way to tell if your hats are already swapped? Do they have any L or R markings on them? steve At 08:34 PM 6/22/01 -0500, Chris Teague wrote: >Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 18:34:20 -0700 >From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension set up > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:01:00 -0700 > > From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension set up > > > > With my hat swap, I have -2.6 on one side, and -2.4 on the other. I can't > > tell if there's any effect of the difference. > > > > > Will the swap change camber only in most cases? > > > > Yep, changes camber only. > > > >But don't forget, any change to front camber will change the front >toe in/out. More negative camber will give you more toe-out. >So when you do swap the strut hats, you will need to reset the toe. >Luckily, that's easy. > >Chris > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message. >************************************************************* >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said - from Luis Veras
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:13:04 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said Yep, that was me. What's so wrong with that? 1. I haven't seen The Fast and the Furious. 2. I can't assume that everything that at first sight sounds stupid is just a joke. Dumbasses DO exist, you know, so without offending the original poster, it could have might as well been someone saying it seriously. Sue, I can't see why you're taking this personally. I was just pointing out something that everyone in this list knows it's a fact. 80% of the population don't really appreciate an M3 (they think it's a "regular" BMW), and of those, 65% are women, and the rest are men. Anyone arguing this fact needs to get their head checked. (Or if wherever you live is the opposite, let me know, so I can move there immediately). Hey, I'm not the smartest guy on this list, nor am I claiming to be. I barely know a bit about mechanics, which is why you see me asking constant questions on this list. I was just pointing a known fact, not trying to sound like a smarty pants. If you want to continue this "he said she said" immature thing, please reply privately, I don't think we should be bothering the list with it. You of all people should know that. PS: If you guys don't hear from me again, you know what happened and who did it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Kraft" <skraft1@new.rr.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:38:03 -0500 > From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said > > Weren't you the one that didn't even get the joke about the electronic blow off > sound generator last week? > > Suzy > > Luis Veras wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:14:30 -0400 > > From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said > > > > I can't seem to score *ONCE* with you guys. > > > > Suzy, I wasn't bashing women. I was merely pointing out the reality that few > > of them know what an M3 is. But it's not because they're females. About a > > month ago I posted a similar post, but regarding some of my male friends > > that also didn't know the difference between an M3 and a 318. Point is, > > people at large don't really give the M3 the class it deserves. Heck, I've > > had people sitting in my car (both females and males) looking at it as if it > > was a normal car, admiring Camaros and Mustangs (I'm not kidding!), even > > though the M3 can slap around silly cars like Porsche Boxters and Audi TTs. > > That's what I'm talking about. But it's just that it happens more often with > > females than with males. That's all. I'm not making it up or trying to > > offend anyone. We all know this is a fact. > > > > Please cut me some slack! > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment - from Bill Lackey
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:03:33 -0700 From: "Bill Lackey" <btlackey@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment From 0 to -2 you will pick up a good amount of toe out. Probally 3/8 to 1/2 from my estimation. This will do tow things. 1) Wear tires badly 2) Be very, very hard to drive in a straight line. From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Reply-To: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:45:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 10:49:12 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment You won't cause any problems with the car but you will with your tires. I wouldn't do it. I would get it done ASAP. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Tice [mailto:tetice@triad.rr.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:55 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:46:05 -0400 From: "Tom Tice" <tetice@triad.rr.com> Subject: Suspension Saga and camber questions => Alignment > Tom, > > Swap the strut hats. You'll get a bit more than -2.0 degrees > camber. You > won't have any more tire clearance problems than you do now. > That is, if the > tires clear now, they will clear with the strut hats swapped. Good luck! > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3/2 Done! Next question is how much trouble will I cause if I drive the car for a few hundred miles before I get an alignment?? Note for reference the change is from totally stock suspension to Bilstein/H&R sports and swapped strut hats. Tom Tice '98 M3/4 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#4. Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said - from S Lafredo
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said I rely on this fact and hope most cops are part of that 80% ;) --- Luis Veras <veras@tricom.net> wrote: > I was just pointing out something that everyone in this list knows > it's a fact. 80% of the population don't really appreciate an M3 > (they think it's a "regular" BMW) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#5. Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:25:09 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said The rear view (trunk, taillights, shape) of the new E46 does look very similar to the rear of a previous generation Honda Civic (mid-90s?) -rb >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 06:59:40 -0700 (PDT) >From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said > >Which part of it looks like a Honda?...and which Honda >is being referred to? > >Daniel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said - from Todd C. Merrill
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:39:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Todd C. Merrill" <tmerrill@mathworks.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, S Lafredo wrote: > I rely on this fact and hope most cops are part of that 80% ;) > > --- Luis Veras <veras@tricom.net> wrote: > > > I was just pointing out something that everyone in this list knows > > it's a fact. 80% of the population don't really appreciate an M3 > > (they think it's a "regular" BMW) At the risk of beating this dead horse, the lack of pedestrians or other motorists rubber-necking to see my M3 is one of its greatest strengths. Like a fine butler, it's understated and nearly invisible, but (the power and handling) is always right there when you need it. "Officer! Did you see that crazy driver in that Honda go flying by me! He must have been doing 90!" I, too, will often get a glance from someone in a slammed car, or a Mercedes, or a 540i, etc., and that's all the satisfaction I need, that a fellow car enthusiast appreciates a good car, any good car, though we might have slightly different tastes and different definitions of "good." Until next time... Todd tm-m3@mathworks.com 1998 BMW M3 coupe BMW CCA member, Boston Chapter ---
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#7. women and automobiles (M3).... - from Ben Tickner
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:04:32 -0700 From: "Ben Tickner" <ben@infofusion.com> Subject: women and automobiles (M3).... Luis writes..... <<<Not to offend Anne here, but very few females really appreciate M3's (either E36 or E46). A similar thing happened to me the other day, but to the opposite (diminishing the E36).>>> Fellow Listers, Most women to not appreciate automobiles like the men and women on this list. But (to be fair) most men and women on this list probably do not appreciate what many of there interests. This being said I really consider myself very lucky. My girlfriend knows all about the M3 right down to the red needles on the guages. In fact she can spot a real M farther away than I can. I am not saying that the girl you went out with was "dumb" as you say, but that there are definitlely women out there that know and realize the difference. It is just a matter of finding the right one. My girlfriend however still feels that a majority of my time is wasted on my car with performance upgrades and cleaning it once a week. This is much better than calling it a 318ti like in your case. I should point out that my girlfriend did not always enjoy and share my passion for fine autos it took a lot of time and explaining, I also had to go to a few "flower shows" to offset bmw weekends. Life is a complex set of checks and balances, it is never simply plug n' play. ben ================================= Ben Tickner Vice President Information Fusion, Inc. Tel: 800.897.4191 Fax: 401.782.4455 Cell: 401.741.9060 http://www.infofusion.com =================================
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#8. Re: Rim Size for Winter Tires - from SWKAUF@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:00:29 EDT From: SWKAUF@aol.com Subject: Re: Rim Size for Winter Tires In a message dated 6/25/01 9:46:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, David Hogg writes: That being said, I keep my 8.5" with 245 Pilot Sports on all 4 corners as late as I can, Do you run into rub or clearance problem in front with this setup? Since I will now have two sets of staggered rims that are the same, I could put summer tires on the 8.5s and the snows on the 7.5s. I assume this is a good idea? How much advantage in handling do you find with the 245s in front? Thanks, Steve
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#9. Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:05:50 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said Did you call me immature? I think it's time to start oiling up the whip! Suzy Luis Veras wrote: > If you want to continue this "he said she said" immature thing, please reply > privately, I don't think we should be bothering the list with it. You of all > people should know that. > > PS: If you guys don't hear from me again, you know what happened and who did > it.
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#10. Big Brakes and Wheels - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:21:50 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: Big Brakes and Wheels The question was asked last week about Big Brakes and which wheels to use for them. I have only heard of two sets of wheels that will work with the Movit/Porsche Big Brake Kit. Forgelines in a 17x9 will work only with coilovers and SSR competitions will work in the 17x8.5 and 17x9 sizes. I am not sure why these work vs. other wheels with similar offsets but they do without spacers. It might be due to the shape of the wheel and that they both have spokes that curve outward. Similar to what Porsche started doing with their Cup wheels in the early 90s. Let me know if you guys find any others that do fit without spacers. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:13:54 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: "It looks like a Honda," she said >From: "Todd C. Merrill" <tmerrill@mathworks.com> > > > --- Luis Veras <veras@tricom.net> wrote: > > > > > I was just pointing out something that everyone in this list knows > > > it's a fact. 80% of the population don't really appreciate an M3 > > > (they think it's a "regular" BMW) > I don't see that being a bad thing. Why should anyone who could care less about cars "appreciate" an M3. I don't understand why anyone thing a car "deserves" respect. Don't get me wrong... I love every single second I've spent in my car, but it's still a car. I wouldn't trade it for anything (maybe a slight exageration), but that doesn't mean it "deserves" anything from the general public. The fact is, I don't particularly like the preconception that goes along with driving a BMW, so stealth is fine with me. >Like a fine butler, it's understated and nearly invisible, >but (the power and handling) is always right there when you need it. >..... >... fellow car enthusiast appreciates a good car, any good car, >though we might have slightly different tastes and different definitions >of "good." > Agreed! I love the fact that it's mostly enthusiast who actually know the M3. It makes it a treat when people want to stop and have some car talk. Besides, if I were trying to impress women with my car, that would be a baaaaad thing... The might actually think I have money, and not realize that I live beyond my means because of my love for driving. ;) > > --- Luis Veras <veras@tricom.net> also wrote: >PS: If you guys don't hear from me again, you know what happened and >who >did >it. Well, I don't think you were running that risk until you made this particular comment. Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#12. Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said - from Luis Veras
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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:12:52 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said You see? It's hard to read sarcasms through email. "Oiling up the whip"... was that a flirtatious kinky joke, or are you seriously mad at me? ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Kraft" <skraft1@new.rr.com> To: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net>; <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] "It looks like a Honda," she said > Did you call me immature? I think it's time to start oiling up the whip! > > Suzy > > Luis Veras wrote: > > > If you want to continue this "he said she said" immature thing, please reply > > privately, I don't think we should be bothering the list with it. You of all > > people should know that. > > > > PS: If you guys don't hear from me again, you know what happened and who did > > it. > >