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#1. RE: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:30:04 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches One of the reasons you see so many manual tranny cars in Europe is that they are cheaper and get better gas mileage than automatics. I mean can you imagine an automatic in a Mini or something of that size. Talk about 0-60 only downhill. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Luis Veras [mailto:veras@tricom.net] Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 11:15 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:08:19 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches > I read an interesting article in European Car on the plane, they mentioned > that by M-B's reckoning, only 5% of their AMG customer base want manual > trannies. (let's not get into how their customer base might EXPAND if they Is this for US spec cars only? I ask because I've been to Europe quite a few times in the last couple of years, and in Europe I've actually been in more MBz with manual trannies, than automatic (rented cars, friends' cars, taxis and test drives at dealers). This also includes 3 AMGs, of which 2 had manual trannies, and only one automatic (an E55). But then again, in Europe there is a much higher % of manual trannies (for all car makes) than in this side of the world. I guess we are lazier than they are. I'd be surprised to learn that the 5% rule for AMG cars also applies to european customers. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#2. Re: MORE: [E36M3] Tire Mounting Q&A - from Steven Tom
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:26:50 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: MORE: [E36M3] Tire Mounting Q&A Also, There's a little yellow or red dot on the side of the tire. I remember that this dot is suppose to be either the lightest or the heaviest part of the tire. I believe it's where the joints overlap. Does anyone know if you are suppose to align this dot with the valve stem or opposite the valve stem? Is the dot the heavy or light spot? I hear that the other way to be thorough is to make them spin the rim before mounting the tires to find the heavy or light spot of the rim and then match the dot. I've spun the BMW rims and they are very good. steve At 10:15 PM 6/27/01 -0500, Mel Silva wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:10:09 -0500 >From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> >Subject: MORE: [E36M3] Tire Mounting Q&A > >Thanks Tom. I was not willing to take my M3 to the two shops I called that >were listed on TireRack's site. The others are well into the 35 miles away >zone, so I didn't call them. I got a couple of recommendations that I go to >my local dealer with my new tires in hand and another half recommendation >for Discount Tires. Can anyone provide more details on the Hunter Machine? >This is my first time <grin> and I don't know yet what questions to ask the >potential installer. What are the complications that require the Hunter >Machine? > >Thanks in advance, >Mel > >PS> I miss Joe at Custom Alignment in Mountain View. > > > > > > > I don't know Houston, but Tire Rack has a list of installers on their > > web site. > >This is true but don't take that as a wholesale recommendation from >Tirerack. > >I checked out most of the shops that they have listed im my area and I >didn't find one that I would trust with an M3 17 inch wheel - none of them >had the proper equipment (the Tirerack sells a lot of 14,15 & 16 inch tires >that anyone can deal with - thus the listings). A couple of them were bold >enough to say they could mount 17 inch tires but hadn't done an M3 before - >they were even confident enough to say they would be responsible for any >damage. This still didn't build my confidence as their definition of damage >to a wheel is likely different than mine (they were only charging $10-$15 >per wheel) and it surely isn't worth the hassle of dealing with. > >I searched around and found a tire shop with the correct Hunter machine and >even then they struggled. > >Good luck! > >Tom Tice >'98 M3/4 >'99 540/6 > > > > > Carey > > --- Mel Silva <mel.silva@pdq.net> wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 13:42:53 -0500 > > > From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> > > > Subject: Dear Houston area participants > > > > > > So after doing a little local investigation, it is clear that I > > > will be > > > ordering my new tires from Tire-Rack. Now that that is settled, > > > any > > > suggestions on where to get mounting, balancing and alignment done > > > on my > > > third-party tires? I live in Northwest Houston, so driving to > > > Clear Lake or > > > SugarLand is not exactly convenient. > > > > > > Thanks much, > > > Mel > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AMG's w/out clutches > > I read an interesting article in European Car on the plane, they mentioned > > that by M-B's reckoning, only 5% of their AMG customer base want manual > > trannies. (let's not get into how their customer base might EXPAND if > they > > Is this for US spec cars only? I ask because I've been to Europe quite a few > times in the last couple of years, and in Europe I've actually been in more > MBz with manual trannies, than automatic (rented cars, friends' cars, taxis > and test drives at dealers). This also includes 3 AMGs, of which 2 had > manual trannies, and only one automatic (an E55). But then again, in Europe > there is a much higher % of manual trannies (for all car makes) than in this > side of the world. I guess we are lazier than they are. > > I'd be surprised to learn that the 5% rule for AMG cars also applies to > european customers. Funny, I was under the (apparently mistaken) impression that AMG cars didn't have manuals anywhere.. Anyway, in the US, I think it's about 90% automatics, 10% manuals.. in europe I think it's more like 90% manuals, 10% automatics. Since gas is so expensive, you want to maximize the mileage on your earlier cars.. and they're so small that adding an automatic (weight and gearing and such) would slow it down too much. When you get older, and can afford a bigger, nicer car (ie, bigger engine than 1.8l), you already know how to drive a stick and love it, and not many people really even consider automatics. - reid
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#4. Re: [E36M3] M3 Totalled at Summit 6/22 - info - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:51:57 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 Totalled at Summit 6/22 - info I have been following this thread pretty closely since I also instruct at most tracks here in the Southeast. Here are some of my obvs. I think some folks are talking out of their ass without knowing the whole situation. 1. I dont think he was racing and he was not solo. He had an instructor in the car from which it sounds like was hurt more than the driver. if in fact he was "racing" his buddies, the instructor is more at fault than the driver. It is his responsibility to keep the student at a level that is safe for both. 2. He needed R compound tires instead of street tires, lmao, WTF???. Street tires are much more forgiving than R compound tires. If he lost it on street tires, he does NOT need a R compound tire until he learns how to handle the car. I mean listen to what some of you are saying. Here is a guy that wrecks BECAUSE his STREET TIRES let go??????? O so he would be much safer on a R COMPOUND tire so that the limit would be much higher, with much less warning before they let go, then very hard to catch??? Again, dont use R compound tires until you have learned how to drive your car at 10/10ths on street tires. If you cant do that, you dont need R compound tires to begin with. If you think you do, you are kidding yourself and probably cant even drive a stock M3 to 6/10ths of what it can do. Doing any modifications to an M3 only makes it a little harder to drive at the limit, so if he lost a stock one, he DAMN SURE WOULD LOSE A modified one. Except for safety concerns, Which I think this should point out to all you track wannabees, you might drive for 30 years and not put a wheel off the track, but more likely than not you will. Are you ready to total the car, have you taken all the necessary safety precations for when it does roll and then hits a concrete wall? There are so many variables that can cause an off and also a bad wreck, dont fool yourself into thinking it wont happen to you, also thinking you are a safe, good driver etc. I hit a concrete wall at 90mph, I know what it feels like, I walked away thanks to cage and belts. I had never had a wheel off the track before then. Had a mechanical failure which caused the wreck. YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN IT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU. Went to Summit one time, co-drove with someone, we set laps about 1-2secs faster than the prevoius lap records for stock class M3s. It was enough for me, I had the fear of dying on the few laps I did at speed, would not have pushed that hard except had to stay in touch with my co-driver. never will go back unless they do some major changes to that track. Mike
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#5. Fix a run flat..was BMW must be thrilled about this web site... - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 08:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Fix a run flat..was BMW must be thrilled about this web site... We should be careful of what we wish for. Those run flat tires are quite a bit heavier than regular tires. I know that a lot of the C5 guys are replacing their run flats with conventional gumballs and a can of flat-be-gone. -Matt --- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 14:53:39 > > All, > > I guess if Chevrolet can put run flat tires on the > Corvette, there's no > reason why BMW (or an E46 M3 or M-Roadster/Coupe > owner) couldn't put them on > their car, right? > <snip> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#6. Re: [E36M3] M3 Totalled at Summit 6/22 - info - from D Seeley
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:29:29 -0800 From: D Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 Totalled at Summit 6/22 - info Bravo!! Not that I expect anyone to listen better than I did, but it's so true! I went to Kumhos for my third driving school, still in the novice group. It was way too early, but I didn't get it that street tires would do more for my driving skills than track tires. An M3, especially an E36, forgives a whole lot of really stupid habits. Like an early instructor said, "You don't know you're in trouble until you're in a _lot_ of trouble." Put R-tires on it and amend the quote to read, "until right before the airbag goes off." Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido," #41 JP 95 M3, super-commuter > From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> > > > Again, dont use R compound tires until you have learned how to drive your > car at 10/10ths on street tires. If you cant do that, you dont need R > compound tires to begin with. If you think you do, you are kidding > yourself and probably cant even drive a stock M3 to 6/10ths of what it can > do.
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#7. heh - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:35:40 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: heh > two buddies in their similar cars. Furthermore, > anyone running at this pace on street tires with an > unprepared car, <snip> Oh, yah. It would've been SO much better for him to be on race tires, carrying more speed, with even less margin for error. :) Sure, I totally agree with all the safety equipment, but one has to keep in mind that the best safety equipment isn't as good as some common sense. -kit
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#8. Re: [E36M3] new M3 comments - from Ned Coonen
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:34:37 -0500 From: "Ned Coonen" <ncoonen@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] new M3 comments Suzy, I think it would actually be a well attended small weenie roast. ....ned. '98 M3 '88 M5 > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:49:42 -0500 > From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] new M3 comments > > John Bergstrom wrote: > > > Each of the noises he described make me lust after a new M3 even more .. > > That's exactly the way I felt after reading Josh's post... How about we invite > all the whiners to a huge weenie roast? :) > > Suzy
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#9. RE: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:52:55 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" FWIW, I have HEARD (no direct experience) of Redline MTL eating very expensive synchros in various brands of manual transmissions. I always use synthetic ATF. Not cheap, but effective. The synthetic ATF I use has proven to provide a significant drop in operating temperatures, even under open-track conditions (no direct experience with BMW, yet). BTW, 15 to 25 deg. F is significant to me. Mel AFAIK, BMW recommends ATF for manual transmissions on 95 M3s like yours and mine. Bora > From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Reply-To: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:25:12 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:19:01 -0700 > From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" > > Luis Vera asks: > > >> What sorts of "balking"? How bad was it? I'm thinking of switching from ATF >> to MTF, since it's thicker fluid, to protect my tranny pinions. First and >> second gear pinions are beginning to sound a bit when driving the car for a >> prolonged period of time. > > Hmmm... I wonder if I spelled it incorrectly -- is it "baulking"? > > Anyway, I would say that once per day, on the track, I would find > myself typically unable to get into 3rd -- sometimes it would resist > without any expensive noises, and sometimes the noises were very > expensive. I'd have to back off, double-clutch, and try again. Very > disconcerting. Since switching to ATF, I have had no such problems. I > doubt my driving has changed, and I've been driving more miles per > day (300 or so), so it's not like I'm easy on the tranny. > >> >> What would you suggest? > > ATF. MTL isn't bad, but ATF seems better suited. My tranny (and whole > car) has 13,000 miles on it, of which the last 5,500 are race miles. > I have MTL in a Getrag 265 (E30 M3 'box, among others) with over > 100,000 miles, and it shifts like new, so I was surprised to find > that MTL was not to the liking of my M3's tranny. > >> >> BTW, do you know where to get Redline online? Thanks. > > I use Pelican Parts for that sort of thing. They have a web site, but > I usually call them -- one of the founders and I go way back. > > > -- > > ______________________________________ > Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Fast and Furious - from Roman
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:55:37 -0700 From: Roman <roman@arteuro.com> Subject: Fast and Furious Have you guys seen this yet? Roman http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-06-25/News_and_Views/Crime_File/a-116129.asp