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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:01:38 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck FYI: Golden Gate Chapter already does this. Bora > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Reply-To: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:34:04 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck > > <soapbox> > That said...at the NCC driver's schools, the chief instructor, as well as > other classroom instructors, have repeatedly stressed how there is a growing > disparity between "track" abilities (driving the line, smoothness, looking > ahead, increasing corner entry speeds, etc), and car control skills (detect > understeer or oversteer, skid control, recovery, etc.). However, a typical > NCC driver school day provides each student with roughly SIX MINUTES of > skidpad time. SIX MINUTES!!! How well can you learn, practice, and perfect > your car control skills in six minutes? A two-day school provides you with > TWELVE MINUTES of skidpad time. >
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#2. Replacing Injectors - from Steven J Jenkins
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:17:19 -0500 From: "Steven J Jenkins" <sjenkins@voyager.net> Subject: Replacing Injectors Does any one ahve a how to, or has any one here replaced the injectors on thier M3? I have the fuel rail disconnected at the front, and am able to lift the entire assy up, but due to the fuel line at the rear, I cannot get the assy up high enough to get at the rear most injectors. I cannot get to the line at the rear to disconnect it. My car is in the garage, and I'll have to drive my "queenie" tomorrow!! Thanks for any help you can offer!! Steve Steven J Jenkins sjenkins@voyager.net steve@thelastdetail.com 1991 NSX Black #2363 13k miles 1995 ///M3 Dakar Yellow 2001 A4 Avant 1.8t S.Blue (Wifeys Wagon) www.thelastdetail.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 04:23:54 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck A search of the web reveals: http://www.ggc-bmw-cca.org/DrivingEvents/CarControl/Overview.htm Excellent! The BMWCCA national office should encourage all chapters to develop and conduct them! Thanks! -rb >From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> >To: Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com>, E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck >Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:01:38 -0700 > >FYI: > >Golden Gate Chapter already does this. > >Bora > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Fast and Furious - from Luis Veras
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 01:25:11 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fast and Furious > OBMWC - there weren't any BMW's in this movie.. I still haven't seen the movie. From what I've heard, I think that it would be a torture for me, from all the unrealistic things in it. Anyway, I think this is a good thing that there weren't any BMWs. It's probable that they producers wanted to have them (the new M3 would have been great), but perhaps BMWNA didn't allow them. Maybe they didn't want to have their cars featured in illegal activities directly related to driving a car (street-drag racing). It's an image thing. Come to think of it, BMW's marketing strategy for having their cars in movies is having them carefully selected flicks, where the true beauty of a BMW is shown and appreciated, not using the car for illegal stuff. 007 is a fine example. Anyone else thinks like this?
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#5. Re: [E36M3] fuel starvartion - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:00:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] fuel starvartion Wow, I've now actually been here long enough to answer a question.. I've heard this one here before. IIRC, there's no real fix.. but it does happen on M3 people. I've heard more like 1/4 tank though, half tank seems like a lot. It would be easy to fill up before you get to 1/4, but filling up before you get to 1/2 is pushing it.. - reid > I am getting fuel starvation at 1/2 a tank and below > on hard left handers (i.e., the toe of the book at the > Watkins Glen). Any reasonably priced fixes besides > staying above 1/2 a tank for a a driver school/lapping > day car - not a racer. > > I just ordered another set of the PF 90s (now 97) form > Porterfield. They said the discount is now 15%. When > did it change?
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#6. Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions - from jbossard@pop.erols.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 02:09:48 -0400 From: jbossard@pop.erols.com Subject: Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Dear Folks: I've recently had a driveability problem with my 1998 M3/4 (42k), and now have some questions about the crank sensor. The car started having an intermittent problem where it would loose all power for about 1 second, and soon thereafter drop into "3-cylinder mode", running at greatly reduced power. Not fun in traffic. 3-5 times a day, or not for 2 days, randomly. Research in the archives of this and other digests pointed towards the O2 sensors, and I replaced the front 2 sensors (there's a total of 4). Not a bad job, but it didn't help. So I purchased a Peake Research code reader, and it shows: crank position sensor failure, cyl 4-6 O2 sensor out of range, and cyl 4-6 failure(or similar). Looks like the crank sensor, which could lead to the other 2 errors. Odd, I thought, because 2 yrs ago, my car had the O2 sensor Service Bulletin performed. How hard could it be to replace a crank sensor? Local Stealer sells me one no problem. On my way out the door, the parts dude says "hey, do you need the harness too?" Harness? What? "Oh yeah, the old style sensor has a attached cable, the upgraded one doesn't. The SB upgrade installs a cableless sensor and an adaptor harness." No problem, I'm SB compliant. Sit in the parking lot having second thoughts, finally go back inside and buy the harness just in case. This is getting less simple. Getting at the crank sensor is a major pain, IMHO. What I retrieve from the depths is a sensor with an attached wire, apparently not SB compliant, despite my entry in the BMW service computer as recieving the crank sensor SB program. Hmmm. The harness has 4 connections, 1 goes to the new sensor, 1 goes to it's old connection point, and 2 do something else, but what? The crank sensor connections are 3 contact, the two "mystery" connections are 2-contact, 1 male, 1 female. There are several places underhood where it could be inserted in series with existing 2-contact junctions, but which one? Of course, there were no instructions. So my questions are: 1. Do I have the right parts? crank sensor 12-14-1-709-616, harness 12-51-4-592-703 2. Did my previous dealer burn me on the SB update? I know, dumb question. 3. How do I hook this thing up? 4. Can anyone provide me with a copy of the crank sensor SB? 5. Can any of this be covered under the 100k emmissions warranty? runs like crud in 3-cylinder mode. This assumes I can bring myself to take it to the dealer. Thanks in advance for any and all feedback. I don't post often, you guys (and gals) usually answer all my questions before I can post them. Joel Bossard 1998 M3/4 Warrenton, Va. (NCC)
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions - from Mel Silva
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:45:29 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Joel, Just as a point of reference. My Crank position sensor on my 97 M3/4 was replaced by the stealer under warranty due to a TSB or Recall, don't know which but it was all done gratis. Better check with your service advisor instead of the parts-counter dude. Mel -----Original Message----- From: jbossard@pop.erols.com [mailto:jbossard@pop.erols.com] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 1:14 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 02:09:48 -0400 From: jbossard@pop.erols.com Subject: Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Dear Folks: I've recently had a driveability problem with my 1998 M3/4 (42k), and now have some questions about the crank sensor. The car started having an intermittent problem where it would loose all power for about 1 second, and soon thereafter drop into "3-cylinder mode", running at greatly reduced power. Not fun in traffic. 3-5 times a day, or not for 2 days, randomly. Research in the archives of this and other digests pointed towards the O2 sensors, and I replaced the front 2 sensors (there's a total of 4). Not a bad job, but it didn't help. So I purchased a Peake Research code reader, and it shows: crank position sensor failure, cyl 4-6 O2 sensor out of range, and cyl 4-6 failure(or similar). Looks like the crank sensor, which could lead to the other 2 errors. Odd, I thought, because 2 yrs ago, my car had the O2 sensor Service Bulletin performed. How hard could it be to replace a crank sensor? Local Stealer sells me one no problem. On my way out the door, the parts dude says "hey, do you need the harness too?" Harness? What? "Oh yeah, the old style sensor has a attached cable, the upgraded one doesn't. The SB upgrade installs a cableless sensor and an adaptor harness." No problem, I'm SB compliant. Sit in the parking lot having second thoughts, finally go back inside and buy the harness just in case. This is getting less simple. Getting at the crank sensor is a major pain, IMHO. What I retrieve from the depths is a sensor with an attached wire, apparently not SB compliant, despite my entry in the BMW service computer as recieving the crank sensor SB program. Hmmm. The harness has 4 connections, 1 goes to the new sensor, 1 goes to it's old connection point, and 2 do something else, but what? The crank sensor connections are 3 contact, the two "mystery" connections are 2-contact, 1 male, 1 female. There are several places underhood where it could be inserted in series with existing 2-contact junctions, but which one? Of course, there were no instructions. So my questions are: 1. Do I have the right parts? crank sensor 12-14-1-709-616, harness 12-51-4-592-703 2. Did my previous dealer burn me on the SB update? I know, dumb question. 3. How do I hook this thing up? 4. Can anyone provide me with a copy of the crank sensor SB? 5. Can any of this be covered under the 100k emmissions warranty? runs like crud in 3-cylinder mode. This assumes I can bring myself to take it to the dealer. Thanks in advance for any and all feedback. I don't post often, you guys (and gals) usually answer all my questions before I can post them. Joel Bossard 1998 M3/4 Warrenton, Va. (NCC) ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:57:27 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Joel, I have a '97, and the crankshaft sensor was replaced under warranty. Let the Dealer do this if you are still under warranty...just my 0.02 cents. Watched the mechanic do the work...looked like a total PITA to me, too. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001
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#9. re: fuel starvartion - from JEFFHARKER@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:00:36 EDT From: JEFFHARKER@aol.com Subject: re: fuel starvartion Ah, Vince, isn't that a RIGHT hand turn? --jeff Hoosier Chapter Vince wonders; << I am getting fuel starvation at 1/2 a tank and below on hard left handers (i.e., the toe of the book at the Watkins Glen). >>
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:09:33 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck Gang, You know, seeing these poor wrecked M3's scares the willies out of me. I'd love to track, but think sticking to autoxing is a whole lot safer and lower in cost. Don't get me wrong, I tracked once at mid-Ohio about 25 years ago....and can still remember the thrill! Maybe someday down the road with a dedicated track car (including roll bar). For now, I feel I still have a lot to learn about autoxing. Until I can beat Bob Tunnell, I'm just an apprentice ;-)) Just me 0.02 cents. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001