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#1. Re: [E36M3] Fast and Furious - from Matt Henson
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 06:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fast and Furious Did you see "Star" on BMWFilms? They weren't drag racing but that's just because they were missing another car. I think that the focus of the movie was on the other import scene. There are many fewer BMW's with turbos and nitrous and most of the movie's audience relates more closly with the Japanese cars. BTW, Someone mentioned that there was one E36 at the begining of the movie. I missed it.. -Matt > It's probable that they > producers wanted to have them (the new M3 would have > been great), but > perhaps BMWNA didn't allow them. Maybe they didn't > want to have their cars > featured in illegal activities directly related to > driving a car > (street-drag racing). It's an image thing. Come to > think of it, BMW's > marketing strategy for having their cars in movies > is having them carefully > selected flicks, where the true beauty of a BMW is > shown and appreciated, > not using the car for illegal stuff. 007 is a fine > example. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#2. Car Control Schools/Autocrossing - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:53:41 -0400 From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: Car Control Schools/Autocrossing Ron I agree with you and others regarding the need for more Car Control Schools.... But I have to disagree with your opinion regarding an Autocross run being "to short" to learn the proper skills. Up here in New England at our 8 Boston Chapter Events we have 8-10 Instructors who are very busy all day long hopping into every Novices car, 30-40 at each event (mandatory BTW) and any other driver who wishes a ride along. It's not the length of the run, or exercise that's important, it's the total seat time and quality of instruction that makes a difference. Maybe Boston is different, but there's plenty of instruction available at our events....Even though the students are only getting 7-8 Timed runs per event, they're learning Car Control skills and are being Timed also.... Here's my favorite quote from the SCCA Home page> T.C. Kline, a well-known driver and car builder with over 20 years of autocrossing and road racing (both club and pro) experience, shared the following with us when asked about Solo II. He made three statements that sum up his beliefs about it; the first one was, "Autocrossing stands on its own as a viable form of racing it doesn't need to exist as an entry-level sport that leads to something else." His second statement was an astute observation based on his years of involvement with a variety of racing venues. He said, "Autocrossers always make good road racers, but road racers do not always make good autocrossers." This statement was supported by the third concept he shared, which was, "I consider Solo to be, arguably, the best place to learn car control." I have always thought that a good solid year of Autocrossing will make your track schools much more fun, and a hell of lot safer......... If I was a Track Instructor which I'm not :-) and had a choice between two "Novices", one who had a year or two of solid Autocross experience and one who did not....I'd take the Autocrosser in a heartbeat.....every single time.... Here's one of my favorite stories: I remember back in 92-93 I was running up at NHIS in my SHO at a School. A fellow SHO driver was in my run group with me. I had never met him before that morning....After the third of four run sessions that day his instructor got out of his car and said "You swear you have never been to a track event before?" His answer " Nope, never been on a Race Track before today" Instructor " Have you done any organized Racing before today?" He answers " Well when I lived in Texas I used to Autocross some" Instructor "Whats Some?" Oh, about 10 years or so.... Instructor "Well here's your card, I'm signing you off for Solo" At the end of the day the Instructor Chair was all upset that this "Novice" had been signed off at his first school, and he really laid into the Instructor who signed Jeff off. So out goes Jeff again with the Instructor Chair....3 laps later they pit....The Chair gets out shakes Jeff's hand, walks over to the other Instructor and apologizes up down and sideways....Shaking his head the whole time.... That driver went on to set a track record (Solo I)in his class at NHIS after only 5-10 days of driving at NHIS......... I later found out that Jeff was a Regional SCCA Solo II Champion and had burned out from Autocrossing. I have not kept in touch with him, but last I knew he was a total track junkie.... He moved up to NE and had been out of the sport for 5-7 years when he showed up for that School.... Jeff learned ALL HIS Skills from competitive Solo II.... Steve Who is a total Conehead :-) Ron posted> > Many of us enjoy the sensation of taking our cars around a road course, or > dodging the cones during an autocross run, or even pushing the limits of > driving a highway off-ramp or a mountain road, but driving on a track "at > speed" isn't the best time to LEARN car control skills, and an autocross run > is too short to LEARN car control skills. The track and autocross are places > where we can USE the car control skills we've learned, and even refine them > for the track or autocross environment.
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#3. I meant right handers... - from Vince Leo
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:40:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince Leo <m332is@yahoo.com> Subject: I meant right handers... Sorry, but I am an idiot... I meant fuel starvation in right handers... Sorry for the confusion. Vince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 18:03:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Vince Leo <m332is@yahoo.com> Subject: fuel starvation I am getting fuel starvation at 1/2 a tank and below on hard left handers (i.e., the toe of the book at the Watkins Glen). Any reasonably priced fixes besides staying above 1/2 a tank for a a driver school/lapping day car - not a racer. I just ordered another set of the PF 90s (now 97) form Porterfield. They said the discount is now 15%. When did it change? Thanks, Vince 99 M3 89 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#4. Summit Wreck - Update... - from John Rather
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:47:25 -0500 From: John Rather <JRather@chemsoft.com> Subject: Summit Wreck - Update... I (LIST ADMIN) am posting this as an FYI from the non-list member who was driving the car... Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 17:40:46 -0400 From: "J Lee" <toycrazee@hotmail.com> Subject: Summit Wreck My name is Jeff and I was the one at Summit Point with the Green M3. The car is totaled, both the instructor and I walked away from it. We both had cuts and bruises, the instructor had more bruises on his shins, and one of his cuts needed a couple of stitches. Couple of items to clarify, I was with an instructor. The car was stock, and it was on my third lap (i think) in the second session. Yes I was there with my friends, but I am not one to compete. What happened was, I've been signed off to go to Group 2 for awhile, but the last few times I stayed in Group 1 because the odds of an accidents seem to be much higher in Group 2. But this time I felt, I had limited myself and found the pace in Group 1 to be slower than what I felt I could do. So i finally stepped up. I was trying to run a little harder than what I was used to and that was my mistake. Also, references to "three asian kids" are really disappointing to hear on this digest ( I have been following this for years), and I would normally respond with an equally stupid comment, but I refrain. My friends and I are 30-40 yrs of age, with professional careers and families, hopefully no different than any of you. That "asian kids" comment really irks me. Anyway, i came into Turn 3 early and waaay to fast. I did feel the back let loose and I over corrected which shot us into the trees. the last thing i remember was hitting bushes, then the next thing i remember was opening my eyes and looking at the dome light. Have I gone over the scenario a thousand times, yes. Can i figure out what I did wrong and could I have corrected it, yes. But ultimately thats all i can do, look back and assume I could have done it differently. When your in the moment, and about to launch off a track, all that training on the wet ring didn't come back to me. Lesson learned, probably will buy another //M (i'm actually looking at the S4, no flames please) and you know those threads about mods, let me tell you how important a harness and a roll cage is to me right now. Safety is #1 especially when you start running with the big boys (as far as FATT goes). and i will always be burdened by the guilt of almost taking another life. Its like pointing a loaded gun, very dangerous. I respect and admire all you instructors out there. Regards, Jeff
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#5. Anyone have a warped clutch pedal? - from Dan Miley
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:44:51 -0400 From: Dan Miley <dmiley@rcn.com> Subject: Anyone have a warped clutch pedal? I bought a '98 M3 5 speed in March. A good BMW place in NJ checked it out for me before purchase. All was well except that the clutch pedal seemed a little wobbly in the pivot and also stuck out at a funny angle and was higher than the brake pedal. That being the only concern, I bought the car and love it. Yesterday it went to the dealer for some warranty work. The ABS/ASC errors were a bad wheel sensor, as some of you suggested. But they didn't do anything about the clutch pedal. They looked at a couple of other cars and thought that "They all do that." This is a good dealer and I believe they were trying to do right by me. Do any of your cars have this syndrome? The clutch pedal is offset a bit to the left and up from where it should be. It seems to work all right, although it's a bit squeaky. I'll probably get a new pedal from Ron Stygar, but would prefer to keep the car stock until the warranty runs out. On another pedal question - Do any of you use an accelerator pedal cover for heel-and-toe on the track? I have used those on previous VWs, which have a big brake-to-gas pedal gap. Thanks. --Dan
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a warped clutch pedal? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a warped clutch pedal? Most likely it's not the clutch pedal that is warped. What is poor by design is the bushings the pedal pivots on. They are slotted, oddly shaped, and are not full contact (meaning that the pivot pin is say 2" long, the bushings on each end would total only 1" of that length so you have 1" in the middle that is not supported). Ron Stygar first came out with the fix where he had oversized bushings manufactured. He then reams out the hole in the clutch pedal until the bushings can be securely press fit in. The inside diameter holes are undersized so that when the bushings are pressed in, they might not line up properly. The undersizing allows him to then ream the hole to the exact size of the pivot pin. Then UUC copied his bushings and had their own machined. Chester --- Dan Miley <dmiley@rcn.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 10:44:51 -0400 > From: Dan Miley <dmiley@rcn.com> > Subject: Anyone have a warped clutch pedal? > > I bought a '98 M3 5 speed in March. A good BMW place in > NJ checked it out for me before purchase. All was well except > that the clutch pedal seemed a little wobbly in the pivot and also > stuck out at a funny angle and was higher than the brake pedal. That > being the only concern, I bought the car and love it. > > Yesterday it went to the dealer for some warranty work. The ABS/ASC > errors were a bad wheel sensor, as some of you suggested. But they > didn't do anything about the clutch pedal. They looked at a couple > of other cars and thought that "They all do that." This is a good > dealer and I believe they were trying to do right by me. > > Do any of your cars have this syndrome? The clutch pedal is offset > a bit to the left and up from where it should be. It seems to work > all right, although it's a bit squeaky. I'll probably get a new pedal from > Ron Stygar, but would prefer to keep the car stock until the warranty > runs out. > > On another pedal question - Do any of you use an accelerator pedal > cover for heel-and-toe on the track? I have used those on previous > VWs, which have a big brake-to-gas pedal gap. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#7. Subwoofer in Autocross car???????? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:01:34 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Subwoofer in Autocross car???????? Ok, I'll admit I have no knowledge of autocross, but was looking at the classifications in the O-fest and there are comments about disallowing cars with sound systems with too much power, too many speakers, or subwoofers greater than OEM wheel diameter in stage 2 and allowing DAT players in Stage 3. Am I missing something or is this just a tongue in cheek requirement. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched Soon to be Braced
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#8. Re: Cr Control Schools - from Kerry Tully
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:05:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Kerry Tully <bayoubimmer@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Cr Control Schools We've been doing a one-day car control school for two years, down here in the Bayou Chapter, with great success. I would strongly encourage other chapters to put on such events - it doesn't take that much work to organize one. We've done ours at the local police driver training academy lot (with fire hose available too for wet skid pad). Plus, it hasn't hurt to develop a good relationship with the local cops! It is amazing how much a person can learn about car control with a few simple repetitive exercises. Once they get on the wet skid pad, we can hardly get 'em off, they're grinning ear to ear. Most participants leave at the end of the day realizing "I had no idea my car could do THAT." Autocross is great too, but as someone else mentioned you don't get enough of the repetitive seat time you get in a car control clinic. Kerry 95 m3, track only w/rollbar _____ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ <http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=tagline>
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:22:07 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions As a point of reference for everyone the service bulletind is # 12 10 99 SUBJECT: Voluntary Emissions Recall Campaign No. 99E-A01 MODEL: E36 - 323i and 328i with M52 engine produced 6/95 - 12/98 E36 - M3 with S52 engine produced 1/96 - 12/98 E39 - 528i with M52 engine produced 3/96 - 8/98 Z3 - with M52 engine produced 7/96 - 9/98 Z3 - with S52 engine produced 1/98 - 1/99 Model Chassis Number Range 328i/4 AV15000-AV25219 LB10002-LB10479 328iA/4 AV35000-AV65890 LB30004-LB31291 M3 Conv. EC42001-EC43174 M3A Conv. EC38005-EC40502 M3/4 EE05001-EE09665 M3A/4 EE10002-EE14165 M3/2 EY72008-EY81023 328i/2 ET00009-ET08059 328iA/2 ET30015-ET38036 328iC ET60003-ET67400 328iCA ET90006-ET99999 EY85000-EY91136 323i/2 EH40001-EH43356 323iA/2 EH60002-EH63662 323iC EA15000-EA18321 323iCA EM20001-EM23874 528i BV50010-BV56850 528iA BW00026-BW49997 GT90000-GT97785 Z3 LC00020-LC16358 Z3A LB62000-LB63999 LG20000-LG20708 Z3 M coupe LC60010-LC60950 Z3 M roadster LC85002-LC89198 Cheers, Jim E. Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 08:57:27 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor Problems/Questions Joel, I have a '97, and the crankshaft sensor was replaced under warranty. Let the Dealer do this if you are still under warranty...just my 0.02 cents. Watched the mechanic do the work...looked like a total PITA to me, too. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 15:22:42 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck Bob, The percentage of driving school attendees who ball up their cars is very low. The instructor is in the car to help you, and should not be forcing you to drive at a level beyond your commfort zone. If this happens, you can pull into the paddock and request a new instructor. -rb >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 09:09:33 EDT >From: Mdriver13@aol.com >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Fw: Summit Point Wreck > >Gang, > >You know, seeing these poor wrecked M3's scares the willies out of me. I'd >love to track, but think sticking to autoxing is a whole lot safer and >lower in cost. >Don't get me wrong, I tracked once at mid-Ohio about 25 years ago....and >can still remember the thrill! >Maybe someday down the road with a dedicated track car (including roll >bar). > For now, I feel I still have a lot to learn about autoxing. Until I can >beat Bob Tunnell, I'm just an apprentice ;-)) > >Just me 0.02 cents. > >Bob Gill >97 ///M3 coupe >Philly Region SCCA >AS Champion 1997 & 2000 >#13 BSP 2001 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com