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#1. Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 MXX3 for sale? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:26:38 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 MXX3 for sale? "Dorffer, Rich" wrote: > > David asks> Anyone got a single 245/40ZR17 MXX3 for sale? If not, I'll > probably go with the 235/40 size. I think they should fit okay on the BMW > 10-spoke 8.5" rims, since LTWs came with that configuration in the back. > (I'd buy a matched set of two for the rear axle.) > > I am guessing you have traction control on your car based on the wheel sizes > you mentioned (correct me if I am wrong since you could have a 95 with > staggered wheels/tires). Won't the 235/40 tire size potentially cause > problems with the traction control or is a 1.3% reduction in rear tire > diameter insufficient to be a problem? David responded with: The car is a 1998 M3/4, so TC is an issue. You're right that running 225s in the front and 235s in the back might theoretically confuse the TC. We know that the TC works fine with the same size tires all around, and that it's fine with the stock 225/45 F, 245/40 R configuration. I haven't noticed any TC problems with a 225/45 spare tire on the back, either. (I unfortunately have more experience with that configuration than anyone should, though not enough to state conclusively that the TC is 100% perfect.) So I'd expect by interpolation that the in-between case 225/45 F and 235/40 R would also work. Not quite so quick David. The stock M3 tire diameters are as follows: ~ diameter 225/45/17 24.97" 245/40/17 24.72" (-1.0% smaller than the 225/45/17) 235/40/17 24.40" (-2.3% smaller than the 225/45/17 and -1.3% smaller than the 245/40/17) Theoretically, you could drive with one 225/45/17 and one 245/40/17 on the front with one 225/45/17 and one 245/40/17 on the rear in opposite corners if you like and probably not upset the TC (traction control) although I certainly would not recommend it. That is why you could put the spare at any corner and be alright as well. BMW selected these tire sizes because it provided more understeer to the car while maintaining a tire diameter within the TC parameters. But, a 235/40/17 is 2.28 times different in diameter than the stock tire size differential. Theoretically, you could mount a 185/55/17 (25.01" diameter) and be closer to the stock tire diameter size than with a 235/40/17. Again, this is not a definitive answer on whether 235/40/17s can be mounted in the rear with 225/45/17s on the front and not upset TC, only that there is a greater difference between the 235/40/17 and the stock OE tire sizes on a TC equipped car. Best regards, Rich 95 M3 - we don't need no stinking TC ;-)
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#2. [E36M3] Battery options - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:36:13 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: [E36M3] Battery options I bought an Interstate MTP-91 for $85 directly from a distributor including the vent tube extension. Perfect fit (BCI #91 (48)), 700 CCA, 72 month warranty and 11 pounds lighter than stock battery. Absolutely no modification needed for the battery hold down system. Here you go: http://www.ibsa.com/www_2001/content/products/product_auto.asp And a dealer locator system for your price shopping extravaganza: http://www.ibsa.com/estore/dealer_locator.asp Best regards, Rich
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#3. Re: Clutch Pedal (was Purchase Question) - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:50:44 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Clutch Pedal (was Purchase Question) on 7/3/01 8:44 AM, Robert Lonski <lonski@pacbell.net> wrote: > I am considering the purchase of a 98 M3 from a private owner. When I > test drove the car I noticed that when the clutch pedal was fully > depressed it bottomed-out on a white plastic stop. Sounds as if the owner installed an adjustable clutch stop. This is a simple device to improve your sense of the clutch engagement point by limiting pedal over-travel. Many of us use them. > Once bottomed-out the pedal would move slightly to the left, it felt really > strange and flimsy! Is this normal for M3's or may there be a problem with the > car? The car had 45K miles on the clock. Thanks for your help The stock clutch pivot bushings in the 3 series are a poor design. They tend to squeak, and to develop excess lateral play - as you've found. When used with a small clutch stop that could be a serious problem. People have reported the clutch pedal getting stuck under the edge of the clutch stop. Fortunately there are easy solutions. Ron Stygar (Ron@unofficialbmw.com) sells a clutch pedal modified to accept uprated bushings. Cost was $65 when I bought mine. UUC Motorwerks (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/) now sells bushings alone for $20, so you can replace them yourself. They also have the Big Boy clutch stop ($20), which is large enough to prevent the pedal from hanging up. Installation is a mild PITA, since it involves groveling in the footwell. Well worth it though. Neil 96 M3
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#4. Any '95s for sale? - from David Bauer
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 09:59:00 -0500 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Any '95s for sale? A friend of mine's 323 was totaled in the Houston floods and he is looking to replace it with a 95-96 M3. Anyone know of any good ones for sale? TIA, Dave 95 M3
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#5. TC (was:Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 MXX3 for sale?) - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 10:59:45 -0400 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: TC (was:Anyone got one 245/40ZR17 MXX3 for sale?) >95 M3 - we don't need no stinking TC ;-) > Funny you should mention that in your tag line. My '97 came with a combination of limited slip and ASC+T, I believe. I have always been very impressed with this combination. It never appears to intrude in the dry, only when I do something lead-footed in the wet. On to my question: What year M3s came with this combination? Was DSC ever implemented in an E36 M3? Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#6. Tire sizes and traction control - from David Ripton
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Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 11:19:14 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@wizard.net> Subject: Tire sizes and traction control Thanks to everyone who pointed out that 225/45 > 245/40 > 235/40 in sidewall height. (Doing the math as penace: 225mm tread width * 45% aspect ratio = 101.25mm sidewall height. 245mm * 40% = 98mm. 235mm * 40% = 94mm. Multiply by 2 and add 17 inches for the wheel [1 inch = 25.4mm] to get wheel+tire diameters of 634.3mm, 627.8mm, and 619.8mm respectively, which we round to 634mm, 628mm, and 620.mm to eliminate false precision and make my high school chemistry teacher happy.) Someone also mentioned reports of the configuration of 225/45 F and 235/40 R causing the traction control system to kick in at highway speeds. The combination of theory and experimental evidence is enough to convince me. If I ever decide to put 235/40 tires on the rear axle of my car, I'll put a matching set on the front. -- David Ripton dripton@wizard.net
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#7. Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers - from Seth Frader-Thompson
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:46:52 -0600 From: "Seth Frader-Thompson" <fraderth@colorado.edu> Subject: Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers I've been looking around for a good aftermarket CD changer solution. There are three options for my '97 w/o HK: 1) Pioneer + "Peripheral" adapter. I can't stand the way CDs load into the Pioneer cartridge. Too flimsy. 2) Alpine + adapter. Autotoys.com sells the kit for $290, but I don't know what kind of adapter they use. Again, the cartridge looks poorly designed, but may not be as bad as the Pioneer. Any comments? 3) Nakamichi + "Peripheral" adapter. Nakamichi has some really slick looking changers. The MB-70 and MF-51 work with the adapter. Both are front loading (i.e. no cartridge) and may be small enough to fit in the glove box. The Nakamichi/BMW changer for the E46 is a rebadged MB-70. Only disadvantage is that the MF-51 is in the $290 range, and requires the $100 adapter. For the money I could replace the stock head unit with the MB-75, which is a DIN-sized head unit/6-disc changer. But then I'd have no tape deck, which actually comes in handy on road trips. Anyone care to comment on whether the Alpine's cartridge design is acceptable (I've not been able to find a shop where I could play with one), and/or whether the Nakamichi is worth the extra money? Thanks. Seth
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#8. Warning 95 Northbound for 4th of july - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:49:41 -0400 From: npaci@va.rr.com (Paci, Noah) Subject: Warning 95 Northbound for 4th of july Just got a message from a friend northbound on 95 through maryland, cops, cops, and more cops....just about every turn around was a trap. be careful out there kids! cheers, Noah Paci 95 M3(obeying posted limits for a couple of days)
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 12:16:30 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers You mean you still have cassettes? I have the MB-100 and I love it. The only problem that I have had with it is that it does not play CD-Rs. Other than that it has worked just fine and I could not ask for anything better. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com -----Original Message----- From: Seth Frader-Thompson [mailto:fraderth@colorado.edu] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 11:44 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:46:52 -0600 From: "Seth Frader-Thompson" <fraderth@colorado.edu> Subject: Opinions - Nakamichi vs. Alpine CD Changers I've been looking around for a good aftermarket CD changer solution. There are three options for my '97 w/o HK: 1) Pioneer + "Peripheral" adapter. I can't stand the way CDs load into the Pioneer cartridge. Too flimsy. 2) Alpine + adapter. Autotoys.com sells the kit for $290, but I don't know what kind of adapter they use. Again, the cartridge looks poorly designed, but may not be as bad as the Pioneer. Any comments? 3) Nakamichi + "Peripheral" adapter. Nakamichi has some really slick looking changers. The MB-70 and MF-51 work with the adapter. Both are front loading (i.e. no cartridge) and may be small enough to fit in the glove box. The Nakamichi/BMW changer for the E46 is a rebadged MB-70. Only disadvantage is that the MF-51 is in the $290 range, and requires the $100 adapter. For the money I could replace the stock head unit with the MB-75, which is a DIN-sized head unit/6-disc changer. But then I'd have no tape deck, which actually comes in handy on road trips. Anyone care to comment on whether the Alpine's cartridge design is acceptable (I've not been able to find a shop where I could play with one), and/or whether the Nakamichi is worth the extra money? Thanks. Seth ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Re:Sumitomo HTRZ II INFO - from Joe Tan
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Tan <mailjtan@yahoo.com> Subject: Re:Sumitomo HTRZ II INFO >I wore the Michelins down much faster and >more than the Sumitomo's without this failure You get what you paid for. If they sell these tires for 1/2 what other premium rubber is going for something have to give right? Why go thru the trouble of buying the best handling sedan and spend more money improving it just to put some cheap tires on it? do yourself a favour and get yourself a set of proven brand of tires. > New set of Kumos are on the way. You just don't learn do you?;) -Joe. '98 M3/4 w/ Brigestone S02 PP __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/