E36M3 #1448

Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:27:01

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. FS: Cold air intake system - from Bob Stommel
#2. FS: Complete track suspension - from Bob Stommel
#3. Re: [E36M3] FS: Cold air intake system - from Chris Papademetrious
#4. Great HID price - from Sue Kraft
#5. Re: [E36M3] Great HID price - from NickG
#6. dreaded 1221 - from Jonathan Evans
#7. Re: [E36M3] dreaded 1221 - from NickG
#8. Re: More tire related inquiries - from Neil Maller
#9. Fender liner rubbing - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#10. Staggered wheels on 1995 M3 - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com

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#1. FS: Cold air intake system - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:49:43 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: FS: Cold air intake system For sale: Cold air intake system with insulated heat shield, K&N cone filter, and all mounting hardware for any E36 M3. Replaces stock air box and connects directly to stock HFM. No engine bay modifications necessary. Used for two driving schools. $90 plus shipping from Avon, Indiana (suburb of Indianapolis - Zip Code 46123). Digital photo available. (Note: This is not Conforti's current system, but it also isn't $400. It's a duplicate of Conforti's original design in 1996.) Bob Stommel 97 M3/4, 5-speed (for sale)

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#2. FS: Complete track suspension - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 19:21:43 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: FS: Complete track suspension For sale: Complete track suspension for E36 chassis. Consists of: Bilstein Sport shocks H&R Sport springs Racing Dynamics adjustable swaybars Lower X-brace Korman camber bolt/washer kit The front struts are completely assembled, with OEM 96-on M3 top mounts, spring pads and perches. The rear shocks include new, assembled OEM rear shock mounts. Everything is ready to bolt on and will fit any E36 chassis. No additional parts or modifications are necessary for any E36 M3. For non-M3 E36 models, the only additional thing you need are front swaybar links. This suspension was used for two driving schools and approximately 3000 miles of street driving. Car is being sold, so I no longer need the suspension. Asking $1100 plus shipping from Avon, Indiana (46123). Cost for new parts was over $1400. Bob Stommel

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#3. Re: [E36M3] FS: Cold air intake system - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 22:13:22 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispitude@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Cold air intake system Bob, if this isn't sold, I'll take it. - Chris At 06:53 PM 7/4/2001 -0500, Bob Stommel wrote: >Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 18:49:43 -0500 >From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> >Subject: FS: Cold air intake system > >For sale: Cold air intake system with insulated heat shield, K&N cone >filter, and all mounting hardware for any E36 M3. Replaces stock air box >and connects directly to stock HFM. No engine bay modifications >necessary. Used for two driving schools. $90 plus shipping from Avon, >Indiana (suburb of Indianapolis - Zip Code 46123). Digital photo available. > >(Note: This is not Conforti's current system, but it also isn't >$400. It's a duplicate of Conforti's original design in 1996.) > >Bob Stommel >97 M3/4, 5-speed (for sale)

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#4. Great HID price - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 06:57:17 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Great HID price Just thought I'd pass this along for those that are interested. http://www.procarparts.com/store/displaycategoryproduct.cfm?pcategory=Lighting&psubcategory=Phillips%20Real%20HID%20Kit

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Great HID price - from NickG
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 08:13:54 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Great HID price That is an excellent price, the cheapest I've ever seen. But there's one thing that most kits/buyers fail to address, and that's the location of the light source of the new HID bulb. When installing HIDs into non-HID housings, it's beneficial to have the HID bulb's light source in the same location as the bulb it's replacing. Most HID retrofit kits don't offer this feature. I don't know if the kit below has this feature or not, so somebody who plans on purchasing it might want to ask the question. The 9006 HID kit that I have (made by Vision) does put the light source in the correct location. Nick > Just thought I'd pass this along for those that are interested. > http://www.procarparts.com/store/displaycategoryproduct.cfm?pcategory=Lighti ng&psubcategory=Phillips%20Real%20HID%20Kit

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#6. dreaded 1221 - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 08:16:23 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: dreaded 1221 Drove through some very high water yesterday (gee, happy 4th, here's 2 inches of rain) and the check engine light came on. Checked it this morning with the gas pedal pumping method and got error code 1221. http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html Is this going to go away? I'm wondering if the water shorted the leads for a second, giving a code. Is there a limp mode that the car will revert to? Will it reset after several startups without the error code? And, seemingly unrelated, the fog light indicator on the dash no longer works, although the fog lights do. Odd. Same time too. Anyone have this happen to them? Thanks Jonathan

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#7. Re: [E36M3] dreaded 1221 - from NickG
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 09:14:47 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] dreaded 1221 If the problem goes away on its own, so will the Check Engine light. But it sounds like the deep water may have shocked the O2 sensor, causing it damage. Nick > Drove through some very high water yesterday (gee, happy 4th, here's 2 > inches of rain) and the check engine light came on. Checked it this morning > with the gas pedal pumping method and got error code 1221. > http://www.bonnevillemotorwerks.com/fault.html > Is this going to go away? I'm wondering if the water shorted the leads for > a second, giving a code. Is there a limp mode that the car will revert to? > Will it reset after several startups without the error code? > > And, seemingly unrelated, the fog light indicator on the dash no longer > works, although the fog lights do. Odd. Same time too. Anyone have this > happen to them? > > Thanks > Jonathan

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#8. Re: More tire related inquiries - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 09:04:32 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: More tire related inquiries on 7/4/01 12:23 PM, "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> wrote: > After getting the new tires installed I noticed yesterday that in parking > lot navigation mode, both left and right front tires are rubbing the fender > liner somewhere in tight radius turns. > > This can't be normal for a 225/45 tire, however, > it does appear that the tires are very close to the front air dam/bumper > cover thingy. In my other car I would interpret this as having every last > degree of caster dialed into the alignment, but I don't know from M3's. Neither caster nor camber are adjustable on a stock M3 suspension. > Maybe the air dam has been pushed back. I also noted that my center section > (under-tray?) of the bumper cover is gone, could this be the issue? Yes and yes. If your undertray is gone, then the attachment points at each wheel arch liner for the triangular "porkchops" may be damaged too. This can allow the liner and tire to touch. You'd need to jack up the car, remove the porkchops, and inspect everything. Replacing the wheel arch liners isn't especially difficult, but the basic design is flawed. On my car I've extensively modified and reinforced these parts, by riveting in sheet metal mounts and using machine screws into nutserts rather than the stock sheet metal screws. Neil 96 M3

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#9. Fender liner rubbing - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 09:21:15 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Fender liner rubbing Mel Silva has rubbing upon turning and no undertray. Mel; I think that the fender liner actually has an anchor point to the undertray at the far forward lower point of the fender liner towards the inside of the car. If your undertray is gone then the fender liner may not be attached anymore to that point. Thus the fender liner might just move slightly rearward in that corner or the whole front moves rearward. This might be contributing to your rubbing problem. You might be able to tell where the rubbing is if your fender liners are dirty and just checking for the rub marks. I have some evidence of fender liner rubbing on my car but have never heard it. Probably because I was on the track when it occured and the open windows, engine, exhaust, and loud tires obscured the source. My car has H and R sport springs, Koni SA shocks, and 2.5 degrees of negative camber using a KMAC plate. I also have Fikse FM5s with 37.7 mm offset and Yokohama A032R tires if any of that helps. Thanks, Marc 1995 M3 LTW occasional rubbing

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#10. Staggered wheels on 1995 M3 - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 09:25:10 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Staggered wheels on 1995 M3 Chris asked about staggered wheels on 1995 M3: Chris; Late in the 1995 M3 model year BMW had a forged wheel option for the 1995 M3. This option consisted of 7.5 in front, 8.5 in rear, same offsets. Interestingly enough the tires were the same size, i.e. Michelin Pilot MXX3s in 235/40/17. So, BMW already had the wheel configuration you are interested in on the car in 1995. So, they do fit. As someone else noted, you might see a difference in steering characteristics of staggered tires vs. your stock same size tires. This would be at the limit however and may not be noticeable. You could put 235 on front, 245 on rear. To counteract this you could put a 1996 roll bar on the 1995 car. The 1996 rollbar I think was 1 mm thicker lending a little more oversteer in the rear for a 1995 car. Someone probably has a takeoff they are willing to give to you. Regards, Marc 1995 M3 LTW

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