E36M3 #1455

Sunday, July 08, 2001 16:37:16

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Rubber Flexibility - from twisty M3
#2. RE: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Mel Silva
#3. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Paul Elliott
#4. FS: Schroth Ralleye 3, Black Seat Covers - from Jeff Lin
#5. brake squish - from Andy Radin
#6. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Chester Wong
#7. Re: Eric Ayala's M3 LTW 04065 - from Miki Haraguchi
#8. Car seat fitment - from Steve
#9. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Paul Elliott
#10. 95 CD Changer problems - from Reid Conti

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Rubber Flexibility - from twisty M3
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Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 13:24:14 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rubber Flexibility Thanks for the response(s), Unfortunately, I already had them rotated before I got any of the replies, and I did go in an "x" fashion. The only reason I did this, was because of the camber... I figured this would be a good way to "even" out the wear. In reality, I'm just buying myself a few weeks (give or take), as I can't see getting more than another 1000 miles out of these. I would've just swapped wheels (tires 'n all) front to back, but the 8.5" wheels won't fit up front on my car. Ask me how I know. ;) As a side note, none of the tires got damaged, luckily. It is, however, an interesting show when you see these guys struggling like hell with the BMW wheels and their fancy "bead lock technology." I love the explosion everytime they finally get it mounted on there... "BANG!!!" Scares them (and me) every single time. Driving cautiously for fear of tire separation, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:54:28 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Vanos question Paul, Usually this becomes a "serious" problem when you have your head tilted toward the grill and you hear marbles hitting the concrete beneath you. This is usually a good indicator that the canted position of your ear relative toward the ground has caused marbles to "roll out" of your head. This is a good indicator that you have "lost your marbles". Welcome to the club, your membership card is on its way. I'm certain that this was a big help with your current problem. You can pay me fee for consultation through paypal. Thank you, Mel (lost his marbles some time ago) Sorry, I had to go there! > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Elliott [mailto:pelliott@rcn.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:56 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Vanos question > > > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:52:13 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Subject: Vanos question > > In my '99 M3, if I listen to the engine with it at idle, and i'm standing > by the hood with my ear down near the grill, I can hear what has been > variously been described by others who have asked the question (although I > cant locate the responses at the moment!) as Marbles in the > vanos! Its not > loud, and performance seems to be fine....Of course, I suppose the > supercharger could be masking a low level vanos failure...But > I've heard the > question often enough to believe that its a fairly common phenomena. At > what point does the marbles noise become indicative of a more serious > ailment? Thanks. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Elliott > '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; > Steiger SS and > Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 17:42:55 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Vanos question Hey Mel...Very cute....I guess that means there's no good information on the subject? --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> To: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Vanos question > Paul, > Usually this becomes a "serious" problem when you have your head tilted > toward the grill and you hear marbles hitting the concrete beneath you. > This is usually a good indicator that the canted position of your ear > relative toward the ground has caused marbles to "roll out" of your head. > This is a good indicator that you have "lost your marbles". Welcome to the > club, your membership card is on its way. > > I'm certain that this was a big help with your current problem. You can pay > me fee for consultation through paypal. > > Thank you, > Mel (lost his marbles some time ago) > Sorry, I had to go there! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Elliott [mailto:pelliott@rcn.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 2:56 PM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: [E36M3] Vanos question > > > > > > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:52:13 -0400 > > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > > Subject: Vanos question > > > > In my '99 M3, if I listen to the engine with it at idle, and i'm standing > > by the hood with my ear down near the grill, I can hear what has been > > variously been described by others who have asked the question (although I > > cant locate the responses at the moment!) as Marbles in the > > vanos! Its not > > loud, and performance seems to be fine....Of course, I suppose the > > supercharger could be masking a low level vanos failure...But > > I've heard the > > question often enough to believe that its a fairly common phenomena. At > > what point does the marbles noise become indicative of a more serious > > ailment? Thanks. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Paul Elliott > > '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; > > Steiger SS and > > Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > >

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#4. FS:  Schroth Ralleye 3, Black Seat Covers - from Jeff Lin
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 14:42:38 -0700 From: "Jeff Lin" <jeffreylin@worldnet.att.net> Subject: FS: Schroth Ralleye 3, Black Seat Covers For Sale: =20 Two Schroth Ralley 3 Harnesses Red in Color Includes Special Bolt for E36 Installed in 1997 Price new $150/each ($300) =20 Price: $150 for Both including shipping. =20 =20 Two Black Denim Seat Covers for E36 M3 Sport Seats (Darth Vader Style) Price New: $100 =20 Made by Supreme Seat Covers in Florida =20 Asking Price $65, includes shipping. =20 Email: =20 jeffreylin@worldnet.att.net <mailto:jeffreylin@worldnet.att.net>=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20

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#5. brake squish - from Andy Radin
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Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:33:13 -0700 From: Andy Radin <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: brake squish Hi guys/gals, Question about brake feel - after an extensive pressure bleed and installation of new brake hardware and stainless lines, the brakes are rock-hard under use. Best feel of any car I've driven. However, I'm left with a half-inch or so of free play before engaging the brakes. I'm pretty certain it's not simply air in the lines, I know what that feels like. The pedal is literally rock hard after the initial free play. Is there anything to be done about this? Anything I should check out in the master cylinder? Or just get used to it? andy r. 98 m3/2

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 22:41:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Vanos question If you did your share of power shifting and if you aren't perfectly smooth with each shift (perfect rev matching), more likely than not, your dual mass flywheel is shot. The VANOS failure marbles is really loud and gets louder when you blip the throttle with the hood open. If you can't hear the noise with the hood open while blipping the throttle (if your supercharger doesn't get in the way), then I would say it's your flywheel. Chester --- Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com> wrote: > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:52:13 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > Subject: Vanos question > > In my '99 M3, if I listen to the engine with it at idle, and i'm standing > by the hood with my ear down near the grill, I can hear what has been > variously been described by others who have asked the question (although I > cant locate the responses at the moment!) as Marbles in the vanos! Its not > loud, and performance seems to be fine....Of course, I suppose the > supercharger could be masking a low level vanos failure...But I've heard the > question often enough to believe that its a fairly common phenomena. At > what point does the marbles noise become indicative of a more serious > ailment? Thanks. > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Elliott > '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and > Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#7. Re: Eric Ayala's M3 LTW 04065 - from Miki Haraguchi
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Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 23:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Miki Haraguchi <mharaguchi@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Eric Ayala's M3 LTW 04065 I am in frequent communication with one of the LTW registry keepers, so I sent him Jim's original post and asked him to comment. This is his reply, consistent with Marc's answer: ------------- 4065 is a LTW. There were about 12 cars produced early, and were sold to racers, used in the One Lap, etc. The remaining 110-115 cars have the later production dates, with VINs in the 71xx-81xx range. ------------- My LTW's production date is 10/95, yet it has a history as a factory demo as well although it was one of the last ones produced (I believe it is #93). Because of this fact, it came with an extra allowance of 10,000 miles on the warranty. Miki LTW (7952) > Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 17:28:49 -0700 > From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com > Subject: Eric Ayala's M3 LTW 04065 > > > > Jim raised the question about Ayala's LTW. > > Eric's VIN on his car is one of what appears to be a few very early cars in > the > range of some low VIN numbers. Most are in the 7000 range and above and > manufactured in the 9-11/95 timeframe. > > It is possible that Eric's car was taken off early and sent to a race team to > use or produced early for promotional purposes or to experiment on before the > larger batch was done later in the year. > > If Eric is lucky he knows the story about his car. If not, it is just another > mystery that might surround and individual car or the LTWs as a whole. > > Regards, > Marc > 1995 M3 LTW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#8. Car seat fitment - from Steve
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Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2001 15:11:13 -0400 From: Steve <maxpsi@optonline.net> Subject: Car seat fitment Hi listers- I will be experiencing the birth of my first child in the next two weeks or so....I can't wait. I just bought a car seat and I'm not happy with the way it fits in my 1995 M3 coupe. I bought a combination infant/toddler unit and the base is huge making it unstable. If used without the base, the back of the unit is too erect for an infant. Not to mention that the passenger seat must be adjusted full forward rendering it useless. I guess this is what happens when your criteria was to chose a car seat that has high side bolsters and will match well with my black vader seats:) I delayed removing my harnesses for as long as possible, so today is a day of mixed emotions. Please help.....I know some of you have children and have tackled this issue. TIA Steve Westchester Cty, NY

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Vanos question - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 17:28:35 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Vanos question Chester, just to clarify, its not loud enough to hear while seated in the cabin. If it were the flywheel, wouldnt I detect someother symptoms besides these marbles? I've heard so many comments on it that it sounds more like the norm than the exception. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Vanos question > If you did your share of power shifting and if you aren't perfectly smooth with > each shift (perfect rev matching), more likely than not, your dual mass > flywheel is shot. The VANOS failure marbles is really loud and gets louder > when you blip the throttle with the hood open. If you can't hear the noise > with the hood open while blipping the throttle (if your supercharger doesn't > get in the way), then I would say it's your flywheel. > > Chester > > --- Paul Elliott <pelliott@rcn.com> wrote: > > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 15:52:13 -0400 > > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > > Subject: Vanos question > > > > In my '99 M3, if I listen to the engine with it at idle, and i'm standing > > by the hood with my ear down near the grill, I can hear what has been > > variously been described by others who have asked the question (although I > > cant locate the responses at the moment!) as Marbles in the vanos! Its not > > loud, and performance seems to be fine....Of course, I suppose the > > supercharger could be masking a low level vanos failure...But I've heard the > > question often enough to believe that its a fairly common phenomena. At > > what point does the marbles noise become indicative of a more serious > > ailment? Thanks. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Paul Elliott > > '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and > > Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#10. 95 CD Changer problems - from Reid Conti
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Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2001 14:33:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: 95 CD Changer problems My '95 w/factory CD Changer is having changer problems. When I started up the car this morning and turned on the stereo, the display said DISC ERROR. I looked in the cd changer, and the cartridge was ejected but the DOOR on the changer unit was closed (!!). So, the cartridge was just ejected, but only sticking out an inch or two. Now, one of my cds is still in the player (I guess), and when I go to disc 2, it says NO DISC, but shows the disc number.. if I select any other disc number, no disc number shows up, and the display reads DISC ERROR. Any ideas where I can go from here? I looked inside the unit but couldn't see where the cd might be.. I'm hoping there's some way to fix this without tearing it apart or taking it to BMW.. but if need be, I'm willing to take it apart :) thanks for any help you can provide. - reid

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