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#1. EBC Brake Pads - from Dimitris Cobopoulos
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:02:19 -0500 From: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> Subject: EBC Brake Pads "EBC recommends only the Red pads now for M3s. Green ones will warp your rotors and are not up to spec for the weight of the car". Dear friends, Before some time ago someone posted this message. Therefore I kindly request you to inform me accordingly. In the anticipation of your feedback I remain Best Regards, Dimitris
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#2. re: Stethoscope for car? - from Barrett Nicholas
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Date: 13 Jul 2001 10:36:12 CDT From: Barrett Nicholas <barrett.nicholas@usa.net> Subject: re: Stethoscope for car? There is such a thing, called the ChassisEar and EnginEar, made by Stillman. A&I Supply (www.ai-supply.com), 800-260-2647 carries them. They come with amplified pickups and long leads, a switch to select which pickup and headphones if I remember right. There's more than one model of the ChassisEar, if I remember right, one has more pickups than the other. The least expensive is around $100. The leads are long enough they'll reach so you can connect to the rear differential or wherever, and drive the car around while switching which pickup you're listening to. Can you tell I want a set - so far I haven't been able to convince the local BMWCCA chapter to have loaner tools, but as soon as I do, it's one of the first tools on the list. Barrett
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#3. Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:03:52 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? I'm about 95% sure I've seen one of these advertised in the Griot's Garage catalog. I can't comment on price comparisons, as it's the first I'd seen, but I'm quite sure it was there. Should be on their Website too I'd imagine. Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:14:24 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? Yes, Griot's has one for $16.95 #37855 Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? > Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:03:52 -0700 > From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: Stethoscope for car? > > I'm about 95% sure I've seen one of these advertised in the Griot's Garage > catalog. I can't comment on price comparisons, as it's the first I'd seen, > but I'm quite sure it was there. Should be on their Website too I'd > imagine. > > Jonathan L. > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:45:16 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads That is simply not true. I am running EBC greens on my car and they work great. I called EBC both here in the US and in England and both places told me for street driving with OCCASIONAL autox/time trials you are okay running the greens. If you plan to do significant racing they recommend going to the greens. When I got my EBC's they said Version 4 on them so I assume maybe EBC has changed compounds more than once. If anyone has any more current information (this all happened 2 months ago) let me know... I am curious. Mark Radelow From: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> Reply-To: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:05:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:02:19 -0500 From: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> Subject: EBC Brake Pads "EBC recommends only the Red pads now for M3s. Green ones will warp your rotors and are not up to spec for the weight of the car". Dear friends, Before some time ago someone posted this message. Therefore I kindly request you to inform me accordingly. In the anticipation of your feedback I remain Best Regards, Dimitris ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:47:28 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads Oops that should said go to the REDS if you plan to do significant racing... My bad Mark From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Reply-To: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:45:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:45:16 -0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads That is simply not true. I am running EBC greens on my car and they work great. I called EBC both here in the US and in England and both places told me for street driving with OCCASIONAL autox/time trials you are okay running the greens. If you plan to do significant racing they recommend going to the greens. When I got my EBC's they said Version 4 on them so I assume maybe EBC has changed compounds more than once. If anyone has any more current information (this all happened 2 months ago) let me know... I am curious. Mark Radelow From: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> Reply-To: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] EBC Brake Pads Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:05:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:02:19 -0500 From: Dimitris Cobopoulos <jimcob@iis.gr> Subject: EBC Brake Pads "EBC recommends only the Red pads now for M3s. Green ones will warp your rotors and are not up to spec for the weight of the car". Dear friends, Before some time ago someone posted this message. Therefore I kindly request you to inform me accordingly. In the anticipation of your feedback I remain Best Regards, Dimitris ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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#7. Re: Subject: Stethoscope for car - from David Morad
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:00:17 -0500 From: "David Morad" <Dogdave@msn.com> Subject: Re: Subject: Stethoscope for car I remember seeing one in Groit's. http://www.griotsgarage.com David '97 M3 ----- > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:33:42 -0400 > From: Steve Lilley <m3steve@earthlink.net> > Subject: Stethoscope for car? > > Is there such a thing as a stethoscope for use with the car? I'm > trying to track down a noise (a grinding or rubbing sound) in the > front steering or suspension (not the swaybars this time), and I > can't get close enough to pinpoint the noise (especially with the > engine running). > > If I had some kind of audio probe that would let me listen to > different areas of the suspension/engine bay, I'm sure I could > track the problem down to a particular component. > > Any ideas? My brother-in-law is a doctor; I wonder what he'll > think when I ask to borrow his stethoscope!?!? (Mental note: keep > it away from the fan blades.) > > Regards, > Steve > m3steve@earthlink.net > > > > -------------------- 7 --------------------
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Carfax -- How to print the report? - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 11:57:21 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Carfax -- How to print the report? Thanks all -- I'm not sure why I had such a problem initially, but I can print these reports correctly now. I (left-)click once in the report body / frame (e.g. to select the VIN at the beginning of the report), and then I'm able to print via IE 5.5 (just the selected frame). Usually, I print to Adobe's PDFWriter, and then have the entire report as a .pdf document. Regards, -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Sway Bars - Advice and Input - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:23:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sway Bars - Advice and Input on 7/12/01 10:17 PM, Chris Teague at cteague@home.com wrote: > You may not think that the 22.2 mm Dinan bar can have the same effective rate > as a 27mm bar, but here are my calculations: > > Stock Arm Length: 8.25" > Longest Dinan Length: 7.25 > Shortest Dinan Length: 5.39 > > So the Dinan is not quite 1/2 as short, but getting there. If you > do use the shortest length, the end link is at a fairly severe angle. > I use the 3rd hole that is 6.01" long, about 2 1/4" shorter than stock. > The angle is not that bad. <formula snipped> Chris, At first I didn't understand the dimension definitions in your formula, but I found a couple of links that explain. For the benefit of others, one is at: <http://www.lumenique.com/Cars/mcoupe/modifications/antirollbars.htm> or else here's some ACII art showing the dimensions: B ------------------------- | / \ A| / \ C | / \ and D = Diameter bar (inches) You didn't give both the A and C dimensions for your Dinan, bar, so I can't replicate your calculations exactly. But making a reasonable approximation from what you did give I'd agree that the Dinan bar on its short/stiff setting might be about as stiff as the much thicker 27mm RD bar - except for one thing. The force the bar transfers to the strut is also a function of the sine of the angle the link makes with the bar arm. That effect wasn't included in the formula. When the link is actually or near perpendicular to the arm this doesn't matter much, since sin 90 = 1. With "long" bar settings - such as stock or RD bars - in the 7.5-9" range the swaybar link is in fact fairly close to perpendicular. Even plus or minus 10 degrees of link angle from idea will only change the effective bar stiffness by 17% either way. However you pointed out that your link attains a pretty severe angle on the Dinan's "short" bar setting. I don't know what that angle may be, but if it's just 20 degrees off perpendicular the effective stiffness will be reduced by 34%, and at 30 degrees by a full 50%. (The actual angles may or may not be that large.) My take on the all this is that while the Dinan bar is a bit smaller in diameter than stock, the popular wisdom that it's softer doesn't seem to be correct. Even at its softest setting the Dinan bar must be similar to or a bit stiffer than stock. However because of the link angle effect I'd bet the Dinan can't be set anywhere near as stiff as the RD. That could be no bad thing though. At its stiffest my RD is over twice as firm as stock, and if I had to guess I'd say that might be too much. Neil 96 M3
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#10. : Oil Extractor - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 18:09:58 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: : Oil Extractor >>Anyone know of a good source to buy a oil extractor? << Yea, I use the one from Griot's Garage, which is as good as any....Only takes a few pumps to build pressure; then let it run out. No metal tip, but its really not necessary. Just holds all our oil with about 1.5" to spare. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio