E36M3 #1476

Monday, July 16, 2001 15:26:09

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? - from Rich Gay
#2. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Carey Probst
#3. RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from James Forbis
#4. RE: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? - from Olin, Jason (NIMH)
#5. Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower - from Neil Maller
#6. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Michael Lawrence
#7. Koni shocks question - not about adjusting! - from Juan Rico
#8. OT: Best price for G Tech - from George R Carr Jr
#9. [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Scott Chan
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower - from Steven Tom

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? - from Rich Gay
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:06:52 -0500 From: Rich Gay <rich_gay@mac.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? on 7/16/01 1:45 PM, Olin, Jason (NIMH) at jolin@mail.nih.gov wrote: > Quick question-is Inspection I supposed to include the microfilter as part > of the cost? My dealer wants to charge $180 for it on top of the cost of > the inspection. I'll do it myself if it's not...you can reply to me > directly. BMW has a checklist of all the stuff included in an Inspection I or II. When I had my M3, I did most of the stuff myself, and negotiated a cost with my service advisor for the remainder. Saved a bunch of money. The microfilter is not too hard to do yourself. Definitely gets easier after the first time you do it. Brett Anderson had posted instructions on the Web a few years ago on how to do it without removing the glove box. Using them I can swap the microfilter out in around 15 minutes or so. - Rich

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:09:07 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? Don't know about the hp claims but the gas is available in Upstate NY at selected dealerships and speed shops. It's the only thing my brother in law can use in his '69 'Vette. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:05:21 -0700 From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> Subject: Race Gas? Anyone used this or heard details about it? I have heard that for $5 /gallon you can get great "optimal" 100+ octane that could potentially boost HP especially on supercharged cars by up to 30%... -Toby ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from James Forbis
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:18:59 -0400 From: James Forbis <james@4bis.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? Actually higer octane gas does not increase HP. What you can do with hi octane gas is increase boost pressures without the worries of an engine detonation (ping, knock, etc.. ). The race gas does not let the engine detonaite as easily. So you can get more power but it doesn't come from the gas, it comes from the increased boost pressures. James Forbis -----Original Message----- From: Toby Smith [mailto:tobys@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:06 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:05:21 -0700 From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> Subject: Race Gas? Anyone used this or heard details about it? I have heard that for $5 /gallon you can get great "optimal" 100+ octane that could potentially boost HP especially on supercharged cars by up to 30%... -Toby ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? - from Olin, Jason (NIMH)
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:27:50 -0400 From: "Olin, Jason (NIMH)" <jolin@mail.nih.gov> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Microfilter labor included in Inspection I or not? So here's the story-this dealer (VOB) breaks down the Inspection I by price. So, Inspection I without the filter is $350. If you want the filter it's $180 more. My old dealer didn't give me the option ($595 at New Century in Alhambra). So, I'm saving my money and using these links to do it: http://users.ids.net/~thompson/bmw/microfilter.html (old method with pix-Michael Thompson) http://www.koalamotorsport.com/tech/ti.microfilter.htm (easier method-Brett Anderson) http://www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/e36/interior/e36_easy_microfilter_replaceme nt.html ("Easy" version/no pix-Peter Wong) Thanks for the advice! Jason

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#5. Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:35:56 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower on 7/16/01 2:15 PM, "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> wrote: > is there a reinforcement available for the REAR shock towers, like there is > for the fronts? And if so, what's the P/N? Yes, but unlike the front it goes on the top of the tower. Originally used on the Z3, the P/N is 51 71 8 413 359. See pix at <http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images//rsm1.jpg> Neil 96 M3

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:46:47 -0700 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? Hey Toby, On a 95 M3 on a rolling chassis dyno, race gas did not show any signs of improving HP. The run was actually 2 hp down, but I would not put anything on the difference, they were equall in my book. Now if you tune your car for it, yes you can get more HP, not 30% by any stretch but a few more HP. High Octane gas actually has less power per gallon than low octane according to my chemistry teacher in college, FWIW. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 12:05 PM Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:05:21 -0700 From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> Subject: Race Gas? Anyone used this or heard details about it? I have heard that for $5 /gallon you can get great "optimal" 100+ octane that could potentially boost HP especially on supercharged cars by up to 30%... -Toby ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#7. Koni shocks question - not about adjusting! - from Juan Rico
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:59:31 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: Koni shocks question - not about adjusting! I have finally decided to go with Eibach's and SA Koni's... I have one question though. While my mechanic says that he spoke with Koni and all you need to do is replace the inserts, I've always thought (based on this list) that Koni SA shocks required "rebuilding" the front struts. Doesn't the rebuild require cutting the struts? Could it be that to him the rebuild is as straightforward as inserting them simply? Who is right here...? Thanks for any info. Juan.

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#8. OT: Best price for G Tech - from George R Carr Jr
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:02:09 -0600 From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> Subject: OT: Best price for G Tech BMP has it for 10% off currently. Some at auction on ebay. Has the product changed in the recent couple years? Some of the used ones on ebay are obviously not new. Respond privately if you wish. TIA, George -- =========================== georgercarrjr@earthlink.net

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#9. [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Scott Chan
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:10:05 -0700 From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? It will not help a stock E36 M3, but one with serious induction work might benefit. Of course, a custom tuned ECU is required to take advantage of the extra knock resistance. 100 Octane unleaded is available at most race tracks for $4-5 a gallon. In my county it is also available from one Union 76 station which caters to street racers (Almaden/Foxworthy, San Jose). Or you can order sealed drums from distributors if you have your own pump and storage. Clearly this is not a viable diet for a daily driver.

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower - from Steven Tom
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:20:08 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower What year did the M3's come with reinforced front strut mounts? steve At 02:45 PM 7/16/01 -0500, Neil Maller wrote: >Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 14:35:56 -0500 >From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> >Subject: Re: Cracked Rear Shock Tower > >on 7/16/01 2:15 PM, "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> wrote: > > > is there a reinforcement available for the REAR shock towers, like there is > > for the fronts? And if so, what's the P/N? > >Yes, but unlike the front it goes on the top of the tower. Originally used >on the Z3, the P/N is 51 71 8 413 359. > >See pix at <http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images//rsm1.jpg> > >Neil >96 M3 > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* >

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