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#1. ] Race Gas? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:51:49 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: ] Race Gas? >>So you can get more power but it doesn't come from the gas, it comes from the increased boost pressures.<< What you say is mostly true...However, realize that, particularly in the warm weather, most of us blown M3ers are already facing signficant amounts of ignition retard. Without changing pulley size to increase SC boost, just by running higher octane, will allow our engines to use more of the full boost more effectively, by reducing the amount of full boost retard we experience in this weather....Its similar to what adding an aftercooler will accomplish for us. Run the boost more effectively. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#2. BMW Parts source - from RonStygar@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:26:25 EDT From: RonStygar@aol.com Subject: BMW Parts source Some may remember Stephen Wolff of South Motors in FL. He's gone. Paul McLaughlin at South Motors will be trying a similar thing. 25% off from true retail, plus shipping. Contact him at Mclaughlinp2000@aol.com Keep in mind that this is a parts ordering thing. Ron@unofficialbmw.com FLY BMW Marlborough, CT www.unofficialbmw.com/ronstygar.html
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? Toulane is a pretty old trick for raising octane. It's safe for your car as long as you don't use it in super concentrations (10-20% should be okay). The problem with it is that it's a carcinogen and a mutogen. Only before it's burned. After combustion it should be like any other fuel. I don't know how much ignition retard the NA M3's get. Seems like it would be a big help to those running Turbo and SC cars, though.. YMMV.. If you blow up your car with this stuff or your offspring have 4 asses don't come after me.. -Matt --- Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:10:05 -0700 > From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > It will not help a stock E36 M3, but one with > serious induction work > might benefit. Of course, a custom > tuned ECU is required to take advantage of the extra > knock resistance. > > 100 Octane unleaded is available at most race tracks > for $4-5 a gallon. > In my county > it is also available from one Union 76 station > which caters to street > racers (Almaden/Foxworthy, San Jose). > Or you can order sealed drums from distributors if > you have your own > pump and storage. > Clearly this is not a viable diet for a daily > driver. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#4. 35 mph - from david kroth
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:23:45 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> Subject: 35 mph James Clay's sig says: > "Stop Lights Timed For 35mph Are Also Timed For > 70mph." There's a "Lights are timed for 35mph" sign in a town I drive through on the way to/from work. The funny part is there is only one traffic light in the town! ===== David Kroth david_kroth@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:34:39 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? This topic came up on one of the other lists I monitor after California announced that they would be lowering the octane rating of premium pump gas from 92 to 91 to meet some oxygenation standard or as part of removing MTBE from gas, I don't remember. Anyway, one individual (notice I did NOT say inDUHvidual) professed that toluene is a major component of pump gas anyway. I don't know how much of this is true, but he provided an interesting link that I will share with you. http://elektro.com/~charlie/photos/cars/audi/toluene.html Read and enjoy, Mel (from Texas where 93 octane rules at $1.40/gal) > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Henson [mailto:hensonator@yahoo.com] > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 10:06 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:01:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > Toulane is a pretty old trick for raising octane. > It's safe for your car as long as you don't use it in > super concentrations (10-20% should be okay). The > problem with it is that it's a carcinogen and a > mutogen. Only before it's burned. After combustion > it should be like any other fuel. > > I don't know how much ignition retard the NA M3's get. > Seems like it would be a big help to those running > Turbo and SC cars, though.. > > > YMMV.. If you blow up your car with this stuff or > your offspring have 4 asses don't come after me.. > > -Matt > > --- Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:10:05 -0700 > > From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> > > Subject: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > > > It will not help a stock E36 M3, but one with > > serious induction work > > might benefit. Of course, a custom > > tuned ECU is required to take advantage of the extra > > knock resistance. > > > > 100 Octane unleaded is available at most race tracks > > for $4-5 a gallon. > > In my county > > it is also available from one Union 76 station > > which caters to street > > racers (Almaden/Foxworthy, San Jose). > > Or you can order sealed drums from distributors if > > you have your own > > pump and storage. > > Clearly this is not a viable diet for a daily > > driver. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:59:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? Yes but it's in much lower concentrations in pump gas. Maybe someone can find a MSDS or something. It's also known as methyl benzine. I wish I could find 93 for $1.40 around Austin... My car runs like crap this time of the year. -Matt --- Mel Silva <mel.silva@pdq.net> wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:34:39 -0500 > From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > This topic came up on one of the other lists I > monitor after California > announced that they would be lowering the octane > rating of premium pump gas > from 92 to 91 to meet some oxygenation standard or > as part of removing MTBE > from gas, I don't remember. Anyway, one individual > (notice I did NOT say > inDUHvidual) professed that toluene is a major > component of pump gas anyway. > I don't know how much of this is true, but he > provided an interesting link > that I will share with you. > > http://elektro.com/~charlie/photos/cars/audi/toluene.html > > Read and enjoy, > > Mel (from Texas where 93 octane rules at $1.40/gal) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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#7. Even crappier gas in CA - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:10:30 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Even crappier gas in CA Now that they are beginning to take out MTBE from CA gasoline and replacing it with Ethanol (Thanks W.), the octane in our gas is going to drop by one in premium grade (92-->91). For those of us running 95M3s with chips, you are forewarned. If your car was pinging on 92 octane, it will be having a concert on 91. Time to put in those stock chips esp. in the summer. Bora --
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:51:34 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race Gas? Y'all move up north. Premium in my neck of the woods is 93, so I've never had a problem in my '99 with Shark Injection. And we do occasionally see over 100 degrees, just not often, thank god. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Henson" <hensonator@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 20:59:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > Yes but it's in much lower concentrations in pump gas. > Maybe someone can find a MSDS or something. It's > also known as methyl benzine. > I wish I could find 93 for $1.40 around Austin... My > car runs like crap this time of the year. > -Matt > > --- Mel Silva <mel.silva@pdq.net> wrote: > > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:34:39 -0500 > > From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Race Gas? > > > > This topic came up on one of the other lists I > > monitor after California > > announced that they would be lowering the octane > > rating of premium pump gas > > from 92 to 91 to meet some oxygenation standard or > > as part of removing MTBE > > from gas, I don't remember. Anyway, one individual > > (notice I did NOT say > > inDUHvidual) professed that toluene is a major > > component of pump gas anyway. > > I don't know how much of this is true, but he > > provided an interesting link > > that I will share with you. > > > > > http://elektro.com/~charlie/photos/cars/audi/toluene.html > > > > Read and enjoy, > > > > Mel (from Texas where 93 octane rules at $1.40/gal) > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Even crappier gas in CA - from Robert Chay
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 05:54:34 -0700 From: Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Even crappier gas in CA You can always buy those octane booster additives. I have no experience with it but I met someone that used to put a bottle in with 92 pump gas just before getting to the track. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:10:30 -0700 > From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> > Subject: Even crappier gas in CA > > Now that they are beginning to take out MTBE from CA gasoline and > replacing it with Ethanol (Thanks W.), the octane in our gas is going > to drop by one in premium grade (92-->91). > > For those of us running 95M3s with chips, you are forewarned. If your > car was pinging on 92 octane, it will be having a concert on 91. Time > to put in those stock chips esp. in the summer. > > Bora > > --
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#10. what is that grey thingee, etc? (formerly microfilter query) - from Olin, Jason (NIMH)
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:37:44 -0400 From: "Olin, Jason (NIMH)" <jolin@mail.nih.gov> Subject: what is that grey thingee, etc? (formerly microfilter query) Question: while removing the microfilter, I found a small gray plastic cap-like part, attached to a hose hanging loosely. It's about the size of a Gatorade bottle cap. Anyway, it used to attach to an adhesive spot near the electrical distribution block, but was lying loose. What the heck is it? Also, intermittently (every few months), my speedometer, odometer and related readings on the OBC go dead for a minute or two. The tachometer is fine. The dealer changed the console, but the problem returned. It's so trivial, I'm not exactly worried. Anyone encounter this? Thanks to all for the help with the filter, etc. I used the "easy" method for getting it out, but couldn't get the new one in because the electrical distribution block was in the way. So, I did need to take off the glove box, etc. And thanks Suzy for allowing some non-M3 specific help! Jason '97 M3 Cosmos Black