E36M3 #1485

Wednesday, July 18, 2001 21:26:27

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#1. Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors - from Steven Tom
#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hans Stuck wears harnesses in his X5; the old - from Daniel Smith
#3. Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors - from Peter Guagenti
#4. Re: Air compressors - from Neil Maller
#5. Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices - from Bruce Mitchell
#6. Reset Tool & Airbag light - from Peter Fanning
#7. RE: [E36M3] Reset Tool & Airbag light - from Jim Bassett
#8. Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers - from Geof McLaughlin
#9. Re: [E36M3] Air compressors - from David Bauer
#10. Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices - from NickG

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#1. Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors - from Steven Tom
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:27:45 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors They have done this in the latest edition on the European Car Magazine. I believe this raised the horsepower in the upper range but also added a dip somewhere mid/high. Did you read the article or get the idea from there? I forgot if the article mentioned a custom chip or an off the shelf one. Maybe just ask for the same program as the European Car magazine. steve At 02:25 PM 7/18/01 -0500, Todd Ogi wrote: >Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:14:09 -0700 >From: Todd Ogi <TOgi@etimecapital.com> >Subject: 97 Stock fuel Injectors > >I wanted to know if anyone on the board has experience with this: > >I have a 10/95 build date M3 with the TMS Euro HFM package on there as well >as a ss exhaust. I want to put >in the stock fuel injectors from the 3.2L engine for my 3.0L engine (the >21.5lb fuel injectors >vs. the 17.5lb fuel injectors) to see if that will work in concert with my >HFM stuff. > >I called around, Turner said that it won't work, AA said they could make a >custom >chip but it'd be 400 bucks. Dynospot Racing said that I don't need to >reprogram the chip >because the chip does more timing of duty cycles vs. figuring out what lb >fuel injectors >I have...it's just an on/off switch for fuel. > >So my question is has anyone done this and am I risking messing anything up >in my engine? >Who's right, do I actually need a chip to take advantage of the extra fuel >or will the JimC that's >included with the HFM work with the injectors? > >I got this idea from the last issue of european car where AA had their >540HFM/intake/chip/injector >package tested. > >The guy at dynospot (very knowledgeable) said that I shouldn't need a chip >at all. > >Thanks for the help. > >T > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: Hans Stuck wears harnesses in his X5; the old - from Daniel Smith
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 13:15:05 -0700 From: Daniel Smith <dls@daniel.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Hans Stuck wears harnesses in his X5; the old roll bar debate > >> When Hans says harness he might be referring to regular seat belts. Well, I saw Hans and the car this morning (briefly, was late). I'm fairly sure he had the full harnesses on for his trip across the Golden Gate :-) I dashed out to mid-span and got some photos (slides, it'll be a day or so). He was the lead car of about 6 behind a CHP escort - lights 'a flashin' and everything. A Saleen and a couple of Porsche GT3's followed. Now if we only could have had the Blue Angels buzz mid-span at about the same time, it would've been perfect. A couple of helicopters also tagged overhead, at least one with a cameraman hanging out the side... Overheard tourists quickly spreading the rumour that there was going to be a "race" across the bridge :-) Daniel -- Daniel L. Smith - dls@daniel.org - Sonoma County, CA

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#3. Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:12:25 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 97 Stock fuel Injectors on 7/18/01 12:25 PM, Todd Ogi at TOgi@etimecapital.com wrote: > I have a 10/95 build date M3 with the TMS Euro HFM package on there as well > as a ss exhaust. I want to put > in the stock fuel injectors from the 3.2L engine for my 3.0L engine (the > 21.5lb fuel injectors > vs. the 17.5lb fuel injectors) to see if that will work in concert with my > HFM stuff. I went straight to the source about this same thing after the European car article came out (it's sad we all read the same crap ;-) -- I called Josh @ Eurosport. What I was told: * You _need_ to reprogram the ECU to use the larger injectors. Otherwise, it won't really know what to do with that extra fuel. * The injectors and chip net only a few more horsepower. Not really a big improvement for the cost of the injectors (the '96 uses 21.5lb and sell for about $100 used) plus the chip ($250). * If you've done everything else -- intake, HFM, chip, throttle body, exhaust -- the next step are CAMS. Eurosport has a kit with cams/24lb injectors/chip that dynos at about 300hp. Not too shabby. -peterg '95 M3 (saving my pennies for the cam kit, but first I want a new diff)

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#4. Re: Air compressors - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:21:28 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Air compressors on 7/18/01 4:25 PM, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Looking to buy an air compressor. Sears had a nice 60 oil-lubed vertical > compressor for $450 or so. Campbell Hausfeld has a few good models as well. > The only problem is that space is a bit tight and I'm not sure if I need such > a big compressor immediately (maybe when I get a nice big house, etc). > I then saw a stacked air compressor (like the Porter Cable in Griot's Garage) > made by Ingersoll Rand that was oil-lubed, etc. Much more portable (perhaps > more useful for other projects...dunno) and it was rated at 5.6 cfm (or so) at > 90 psi. The real world air output is a combination of the air pump output (typically stated in the specs as cfm @ 90 psi) plus the reserve capacity afforded by the tank (usually maintained at 125-135 psi, sometimes more). In my experience air tools tend to draw more air than the pump can supply on a continuous basis, so tank capacity makes a big difference in run time. 2 stage compressors usually store air at 175 psi, giving them greater effective reserve capacity. For home automotive air tool use 5HP/25gal is comfortable, 6/30 is nicer, 60 gal would be the height of luxury, and I wouldn't ever recommend a tank of under 20 gal unless for some reason you have no choice. Here's a rule of thumb: if you can lift it, you don't want it! If you're tight on space the vertical type may be more convenient. Note that oil-free compressors are less expensive, but very noisy - especially in a confined space like a garage. If I had to do it over again I'd spend the $100 or so extra and buy a quieter belt-drive oil-lubricated compressor. Home Depot had a very good deal on them not long ago, maybe they still do. Don't forget that the compressor tends to be the tip of the financial iceberg: next you buy the longer air hose, maybe a hose reel, an IR2131 impact gun for $200, an air ratchet, a set of impact sockets, blah blah blah... But damn, air tools are great! Neil 96 M3

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#5. Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices - from Bruce Mitchell
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 17:48:00 -0500 From: Bruce Mitchell <bruce.mitchell@mediaone.net> Subject: Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices I need to replace an oxygen sensor on my '96 M3. I'd prefer the Bosch OEM part with the plug, as opposed to cutting and splicing. What is the Bosch part number for the O2 sensor? I think Steve D has them for $115 and Turner for $88. Anyone have a source for a better price? I do know that the spark plugs are Bosch FGR8KQC. Again, Steve D and BMP have them for $10 each. Anyone have a source for a better price? Thanks, Bruce Mitchell '96 project/track M3

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#6. Reset Tool & Airbag light - from Peter Fanning
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 15:59:55 -0700 From: Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> Subject: Reset Tool & Airbag light Does the Peake code and reset tool reset the Airbag light or is that a special dealer light? TIA, Peter Fanning '98 M3/4

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Reset Tool & Airbag light - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:20:39 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Reset Tool & Airbag light > Does the Peake code and reset tool reset the Airbag light or > is that a > special dealer light? Special dealer light. Or any independent shop with a MoDiC - I had mine reset at Stanford European many moons ago :-) Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 20:11:28 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices At 05:55 PM 7/18/01 -0500, Bruce Mitchell wrote: >What is the Bosch part number for the O2 sensor? >I think Steve D has them for $115 and Turner for $88. Anyone have a >source for a better price? Steve D at Ultimate Garage has the best price that I have seen. >I do know that the spark plugs are Bosch FGR8KQC. Again, Steve D and >BMP have them for $10 each. Anyone have a source for a better price? Bimmerparts.com, $6.55

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Air compressors - from David Bauer
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:25:23 -0500 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Air compressors Chester, I just picked up a Porter Cable 6HP, 25 gal, oil-lube, iron cylinder, 6.8 SCFM@90 compressor for $339 at Lowe's. Got 6 months no payments no interest too. Dave Chester Wong wrote: > > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 12:37:38 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Air compressors > > Looking to buy an air compressor. Sears had a nice 60 oil-lubed vertical > compressor for $450 or so. Campbell Hausfeld has a few good models as well. > The only problem is that space is a bit tight and I'm not sure if I need such a > big compressor immediately (maybe when I get a nice big house, etc). I then > saw a stacked air compressor (like the Porter Cable in Griot's Garage) made by > Ingersoll Rand that was oil-lubed, etc. Much more portable (perhaps more > useful for other projects...dunno) and it was rated at 5.6 cfm (or so) at 90 > psi. > > Any suggestions? Too many choices! Maybe a 13 - 15 gallon wheel barrel type? > > Chester > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > *************************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:19:40 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bosch O2 sensors and spark plugs - Part numbers and prices The '96-'99 M3's don't use Bosch oxygen sensors. They use NTK sensors (NTK is the sensor division of NGK). The standard voltage generating Bosch oxygen sensors are not compatible with these cars. Nick > I need to replace an oxygen sensor on my '96 M3. I'd prefer the Bosch > OEM part with the plug, as opposed to cutting and splicing. > > What is the Bosch part number for the O2 sensor? > I think Steve D has them for $115 and Turner for $88. Anyone have a > source for a better price?

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