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#1. Re: [E36M3] Why now? - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:02:01 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Why now? Steve asks: >How is the Oil pump driven BTW? Anyone else have an Oil pump go? The oil pump is driven off a dedicated single-roller chain from the crank -- no tensioner, etc. Many LWT owners replaced their stock pumps with the one that came with the LWT pan kit. Since a few people had mentioned that the oil pump "pulley" (actually a gear) fell off on their cars, I went ahead and used Red Loctite when installing the gear on the two cars that I installed pans into. Also, the nut that holds the gear in place (the gear is splined and fits onto a splined shaft with about 3/8" of thread at the end to hold the nut) has a left-hand thread. It sounds like the nut fell off your oil pump shaft. Another possibility is that the pump itself has "fallen off" -- three bolts hold the pump assembly against the bottom of the block. One other possibility is that the four smaller (M6?) bolts that hold the two pump halves together have fallen out. -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#2. I've got car! - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 01:06:33 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: I've got car! So 1 day short of 5 weeks after I brought my car in to be fixed after it was vandalized twice, I brought it back home. Why did it take so long? Well, the insurance company decided that it would be better to replace the wiring harness due to the fact that "they" made spaghetti out of the passenger-side front of the harness when "they" pulled all of the wires out to cut off the siren. The insurance company had 2 people look at it and decided to replace the harness rather than just tuck everything back neatly in place (which I didn't have a problem with as only 2 wires were actually damaged). After waiting for almost 3 weeks for the harness to arrive from Germany, the body shop took one look at the $2,200+ part and said that they wouldn't put it in. It is the fuse box plus all wires running forwards and backwards under the dash and, once I saw it, I can't blame them for refusing the job. It would be almost impossible to expect this to be installed and not have problems with it in the future - it must be 80% of all of the wires in the entire car. The insurance company gave a "book" installation time of 12 hours labor and the body shop knew that they would lose money on the job so they said to take it to the dealer. I took it to the dealer and they looked at it and said that they wouldn't do the job either because a) it takes about 40 hours to do and is a nightmare and b) it didn't need the entire harness replaced - just a few hours cleaning everything up. Now I have to talk to the insurance company and see what they want to do with this non-returnable $2,200+ part. What a PITA! While I enjoyed driving my father's older (1995 and 2001) Oldsmobile Aurora (and Acura NSX) for all those weeks because it is quiet and comfortable, I still missed the M3 for the power and handling. -Wayne '99 Black/Magma - almost back in one piece
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Source for Euro Floating Rotors? - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:34:01 -0700 From: Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Source for Euro Floating Rotors? No cooling work on the car yet. I am slowly getting the parts together to do that when it's time to make the M3 into a dedicated track car. I'm the lack of proper cooling has factored into the warping. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Conners [mailto:nohau9@columbus.rr.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Conners Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:00 PM To: 'Bob Lenarcik'; E36M3 (E-mail) Subject: RE: [E36M3] Source for Euro Floating Rotors? Bob, Did you have the rotor backing plate removed or any cooling ducting installed? It seems that the stock setup is definitely okay for the street, but I'd install the cooling ducts for the track. MHO Jeremy Conners Dublin, OH 97 M3
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#4. Re: [E36M3] New 3 series? - from Scott Smith
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:53:25 -0700 From: Scott Smith <ssmith@akamai.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New 3 series? > The 2002 3 series is still an E46. It really is just a minor > face lift, like the 5's will be getting soon. The 7 series > is all new starting next year (Q1 2002). a German friend of mine mentioned that Germans don't like old cars (he couldn't believe I just bought a '95 for a race car: "Why don't you buy a new one and race that?" -- he couldn't even fathom that I was considering an E30...) He mentioned the clear signal lenses as an example -- those came out in Europe mid-cycle as standard equip, presumably so people would feel like they got something different when they bought the "new" car. the facelift just seems to confirm what he told me... of course it seems that Germany would be a good place to pick up cheap used cars... Scott
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#5. Re: [E36M3] New 3 series? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New 3 series? Then again, from the pics, it seems that the facelift is a welcome one, IMO. The smoothened out the ugly scallops under the headlights. The pic on the site actually looked very nice. Chester --- Scott Smith <ssmith@akamai.com> wrote: > the facelift just seems to confirm what he told me... > > of course it seems that Germany would be a good place to pick up cheap > used cars... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:15:56 -0700 From: Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? I'm sure that for a lot of people the floating Euro rotors have been great. Just because I felt it was a waste of money doesn't mean it will be for everyone. I should have prefaced my comments with "In my opinion based on personal experience..." I'm also sure that my braking technique isn't the best, but until someone actually sits shotgun with me, they are really in no position to judge. At one CCA school, my instructor commented "you're so smooth that I'm falling asleep!" while I was in the A run group and being more of a passer than a passé. I also drive hard on my preferred commute to work route over a 30 mile mountain highway, Lots of turns of all types. There are posted 15 MPH turns going downhill and long sweepers connected with short not completely straight sections. Driving the speed limit down the steeper side would stress most street cars' rotors. I've read that racers consider rotors to be consumables like pads - no mater how they are made or what they are made of. If I recall, someone once said if you're not warping rotors, you're not driving hard enough. Given my experience with warped rotors, I tend to agree with them. I've done the pads and fluids, too - Porterfield R4s and ATE Super Blue for the street. (The mountain drive gets the pads hot enough to be perfectly silent after about 3 turns.) I have no doubt cryo- or heat-treated rotors, better cooling, and spending a lot of time working on perfecting one's braking technique would reduce the chance of warping rotors. But, I think no one would claim that all this totally prevents warping - I've only heard claims of better resistance to warping. Like I said, $45 for Brembo rotors is pretty damned cheap and I chose to use them instead of the more expensive options. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Peter Fanning [mailto:p.fanning@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:42 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:40:34 -0700 From: Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> Subject: Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? I have to disagree with Bob's comments. I find the floating rotors work great. I drive very hard and have worked on my braking technique. Even before improving my braking I found the floating rotors to resist warping better than one-piece. I order them from Nick Alexander imports (800-800-NICK, ~$108 per rotor), have them drop shipped to cryo-one for treatment (~$20 per rotor) and have smooth trouble free rotors until it's time for replacement due to wear (thickness and radial fissures). I think this debate has raged over the last couple of years about proper braking technique, high-temp fluid, track pads, floating rotors and cryo treatment. Proper fluid, pads and treated floating rotors helped me a lot as I worked on my braking. Peter Fanning '98 M3/4
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#7. Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? - from David Hogg
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 07:39:48 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: Re: Source for Euro Floating Rotors? US rotors cool from the outer edge only. The Euro rotors will cool from the center also, so they run just a little cooler and cool down much more evenly, giving some warping protection. If you doubt this, check with a pyrometer. The key still remains not parking immediately after tracking, and moving the car (by hand works well) two times at five-minute intervals after tracking to place the pads on different places on the rotors. If you don't do this, the extreme cooling differential caused by the pads blocking rotor air flow (retaining heat) is much more likely warp your rotors. You don't need ducting to keep from warping. It will, though, extend pad life and reduce the possibility of boiling fluid causing brake fade. Dave Hogg
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#8. re:What's it worth? - from Kevin M. Gregg
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 08:05:42 -0400 From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> Subject: re:What's it worth? Look up the value of new/used cars at..... http://www.edmunds.com http://nadaguides.com http://www.kbb.com >1999 M3 >Silver/Grey >13250 miles >HK Sound >Cruise >Sunroof >Forged Wheels >Mint Condition >1 owner Kevin Gregg kevingregg@home.com 1997 BMW M3 Estoril Blue luxury coupe, 100% stock http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/ BMW CCA 3411 Columbia, MD, USA
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#9. NOW OPEN! - E36 M3 Digest/Rogue Engineering Virtual Car Show - from Ben Liaw - Rogue Engineering
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Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:24:13 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw - Rogue Engineering" <ben@rogueengineering.com> Subject: NOW OPEN! - E36 M3 Digest/Rogue Engineering Virtual Car Show As promised, with Suzy Kraft's blessing, we present to you, the E36 M3 Digest/Rogue Engineering Virtual Car Show! Visit the Virtual Car Show here: http://www.rogueengineering.com The 10 cars you see in the Virtual Car Show are fine examples of the cars belonging to the E36 M3 Digest, all ranging from near perfect, stock examples, really wild transformations and everything in between! These entries were selected randomly, from all the entries that we received. It is up to YOU to determine the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winners of the show! Just visit the cars, on their respective pages, and cast your vote. Winners of the Virtual Car Show will be awarded product prizes and/or gift certificates. Thank you for the many entries that we received! If you car didn't make the show, it's only because of the luck of the draw. Best of luck to those in the Show! Regards, Ben Liaw ben@rogueengineering.com . http://www.rogueengineering.com . 201-594-1505
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Source for Euro Floating Rotors? - from D Seeley
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Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:18:41 -0800 From: D Seeley <dseeley@infoasis.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Source for Euro Floating Rotors? IMHO, it's better to install ducting once than keep going through rotors, whether replacing warped cheap ones or the repeated expense of floating rotors. Donna ------- 88 M3, "Guido," #41 JP 95 330isA, super-commuter > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Conners [mailto:nohau9@columbus.rr.com] > > > Did you have the rotor backing plate removed or any cooling ducting > installed? It seems that the stock setup is definitely okay for the > street, but I'd install the cooling ducts for the track. MHO