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#1. RE: [E36M3] Retrofit Cruise Control - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:38:43 -0400 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Retrofit Cruise Control Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] wrote: > > Has anyone here ever retrofitted OE cruise control onto an > E36 M3? What did it cost and how difficult was it? Did it > work as well as the factory installed option? Rich, AFAIK the harnesses are different between cruise control and non-CC cars. So if you want to retrofit CC to a non-CC E36 car you should be prepared to splice some wires with ETM in hand or even lay some extra wiring if necessary. Now add the cost of a CC brain, new CC-enabled throttle body, etc, etc and it will cost upwards of $1K in new parts. > It also did not have the OBC, alarm or armrest, all of which > the buyer is interested in. I told him the armrest and the > alarm are easy and I would not touch the OBC retrofit with a > ten foot pole. I think John Firestone had posted about retrofitting OBC to his E36. Again, lack of universal modular wiring harness was a PITA, but I think he managed to get it to work. > The price is right on this one and I figured it may be worthwhile for > him to buy it and have cruise control retrofitted if possible (along > with the alarm and armrest). Who need CC anyway if you have a rev limiter? ;-) alex f
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#2. Re: Mileage (e46m3) - from Kevin M. Gregg
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:53:25 -0400 From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> Subject: Re: Mileage (e46m3) At 10/5/01 01:27 PM, Daniel Snyder wrote: > >Then what is the point of having a fast car? Honestly, the cost of a little >extra (10%) gas is small when compared to the real cost of the car >(purchase, maint, etc). Oh I agree 100%. That is why I bought this car. I very gladly apply excessive right foot pressure and enjoy every single minute of it. My friends were surprised to hear that I bought a car that requires 91+ octane. "Isn't premium gas so much more expensive, Kevin? Why would you buy a car that requires premium gas?", they would ask. I just looked at them and smiled, smiled, smiled. (Sometimes, I'd let them drive... then they would understand.) You aren't the same Daniel Snyder that owns the Washington Redskins, are you? I'm guessing no since you're on the other coast. Just think of all the E46M3s Snyder could have bought with the money he spent on the Skins a few years back. [sigh] Kevin Gregg kevingregg@home.com 1997 BMW M3 Estoril Blue coupe http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/ BMW CCA member Columbia, MD, USA
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#3. mileage... - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:59:15 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: mileage... Lot's of posts on this so I will add one more. I average about 25 mpg with my M3. I have gotten as low as 22-23 mpg combined driving and as high as 29 mpg on the highway if I keep my speeds below 75 mph. I got 9.7 mpg this weekend at Mid-Ohio :-) My E30 325is averages about 24-25 mpg and has 100 less horsepower :-( Regards, Rich
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#4. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Anthony Le
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Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 14:11:17 -0500 From: Anthony Le <anthony.le@wcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... >Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 08:33:54 -0700 >From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > >WWWHHHHHAAAAATTT. I have yet to get over 20 with an average of >16-17!!!!! I don't know how the hell you guys do this. I see people write >that they get high mileage but I always assume people are lying. But now >I'm beginning to wonder??? I always have to fill my tank at 250 miles >usually taking about 15-15.5 gallons!! What the f#%$@^&?? Maybe I have a >special car that has a bigger appetite? I think Mark Radelow and I have >about the same gas mileage. hmmm Maybe it's the crappy gas here in San >Diego. Ohh maybe that explains why we are still paying >$2.00/gallon/supreme/91octane. What do you guys pay? $5.00/gallon???? This is the same thing as tire life. Some people get 30K miles from a set, while I am having a hard time getting 17K miles from mine with proper inflation and rotations. Everyone is drives differently (M3 or not). Some never rev past 4K while others bounce against the redline every chance. Now I gotta go and buy some new tires. anthony 95 ///M3 P.S. I get 20 mpg.
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#5. Gas Mileage - from Robert Exconde
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:23:22 +0100 From: "Robert Exconde" <99e36M3@exconde.com> Subject: Gas Mileage When I got the M3 I had to drive it cross country, from Las Vegas to Chicago. Three people weighing in at Me - 170 Dad - 180 My Mom - undisclosed A/C mostly on 3 cases of juice and two luggages When I pull up in the driveway I averaged 26.3. Keep in mind that I went through the mountains of colorado and at times I did stints of 90-110 :-) Now if I was Mr. Tang, I'd be drafting all the trucks and getting about 28-30... but that would mean I would have to go about 60 through the mountains and that wasn't happening with the M3. Robert
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Retrofit Cruise Control - from Bruner, Phil
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:32:41 -0700 From: "Bruner, Phil" <bruner@littongcs.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Retrofit Cruise Control When I went shopping for my M3 Cruise was on my must have list even though a friend of mine who had the white 97 Cpe which parked next to me at the office, and was my downfall into all this, insisted that cruise was a waste of money on the M3. He on the other hand missed not having electric seats. As it turns out I found a low mileage 97 with the Luxury package (Cruise, leather, electric seats etc.) I find I really appreciate the Leather /Electric Seats but hardly ever use the cruise. I almost immediately added the factory alarm and CD changer which are no-brainers. Since then I've added Euro Lites, and the X-Brace is next. While another 100 HP would be nice this is a really fantastic machine. Phil -----Original Message----- From: Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 10:58 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Retrofit Cruise Control Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:53:47 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Retrofit Cruise Control Has anyone here ever retrofitted OE cruise control onto an E36 M3? What did it cost and how difficult was it? Did it work as well as the factory installed option? The reason I asked is a buddy of mine and I checked out a 1997 M3 Sedan last night and noted that it did not have cruise control. This surprised me as I thought they nearly all had cruise control but a quick check under the hood verified it was not installed. It also did not have the OBC, alarm or armrest, all of which the buyer is interested in. I told him the armrest and the alarm are easy and I would not touch the OBC retrofit with a ten foot pole. The cruise I was not sure about though. The price is right on this one and I figured it may be worthwhile for him to buy it and have cruise control retrofitted if possible (along with the alarm and armrest). Please advise and thanks in advance. Regards, Rich 95 M3 - has cruise control already ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Mileage... - from Paul England
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:48:09 -0400 From: "Paul England" <ettsn@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mileage... You guys also have oxygenated gas (MTBE) which reduces the total energy, so it is less efficient (burns more fuel for the same amount of power). -Paul > From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > WWWHHHHHAAAAATTT. I have yet to get over 20 with an average of > 16-17!!!!! I don't know how the hell you guys do this. I see people write > that they get high mileage but I always assume people are lying. But now > I'm beginning to wonder??? I always have to fill my tank at 250 miles > usually taking about 15-15.5 gallons!! What the f#%$@^&?? Maybe I have a > special car that has a bigger appetite? I think Mark Radelow and I have > about the same gas mileage. hmmm Maybe it's the crappy gas here in San > Diego. Ohh maybe that explains why we are still paying > $2.00/gallon/supreme/91octane. What do you guys pay? $5.00/gallon????
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#8. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from NickG
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:19:59 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... Reading all these mileage posts during the day made me want to measure my car's mileage on the way home :) The car is a 1995 M3 with an AA Stage1 turbo kit with custom tuning. The results are: 70mph = 27.2mpg 75mph = 27.8mpg (yes, higher!......go figure) Nick
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#9. Fwd: [E36M3] Procarparts.com & HID - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:26:46 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispitude@yahoo.com> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] Procarparts.com & HID ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >Date: 2 Oct 2001 09:36:28 -0700 >From: Wesley A Nicolas <wes@nicolas.org> >Subject: Procarparts.com & HID > >Hey there - >I got my HID's from ProCarParts.com and am very satisfied. I would also > suggest getting the Ellipsoid light kit too (BMP Designs, BavAuto, etc.). > >If you get the Ellipsoid's, be sure to get a headlight protector kit > (adhesive plastic) because I held off on spending the $40 and got a nice > rock chip within 2 weeks. Now I'm kicking myself. ------------------------------------------------------- Where's a good place to get protective covers for the Euro headlights? I ordered the cut-to-fit headlight shield kit from Griots, including the positioning spray and squeegee. The film looked flawless the evening I put it on (a few days ago). By the next day, it developed a whole bunch of cloudiness under the film. It isn't air, either. I'm not a very happy camper. I also ordered a pre-cut kit for the original headlights/foglights from Griots. This was actually a thicker material with a 3M backing, which was drop-shipped from a different company. The cut-it-yourself kit was a thinner film with a plain brown paper backing. I didn't use the headlight shields yet, but the foglight covers went on flawlessly with no cloudiness. They remain crystal clear, and they've been on a month. - Chris
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#10. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:07:17 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... I've been getting an average of 22 around town/commuting, about 11 last weekend at Watkins Glen. First long distance trip in a while this week, Upstate NY to Atlanta. Will see what it's like if I'm good. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: [E36M3] mileage... Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:59:15 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: mileage... Lot's of posts on this so I will add one more. I average about 25 mpg with my M3. I have gotten as low as 22-23 mpg combined driving and as high as 29 mpg on the highway if I keep my speeds below 75 mph. I got 9.7 mpg this weekend at Mid-Ohio :-) My E30 325is averages about 24-25 mpg and has 100 less horsepower :-( Regards, Rich ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************