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#1. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:14:00 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... This really depends on the gearing and power curve. Back in the early 70's with my 240Z, I got 23 or so at 55 (bad old days) and 26-27 at 70. Some engines just aren't meant to go slow. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:19:59 -0400 > From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > Reading all these mileage posts during the day made me want to measure my > car's mileage on the way home :) > > The car is a 1995 M3 with an AA Stage1 turbo kit with custom tuning. The > results are: > > 70mph = 27.2mpg > 75mph = 27.8mpg (yes, higher!......go figure) > > Nick > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Reid Conti
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:34:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... Interesting.. every car i've ever run thru cartest has a downward slope all the way as speed increases in a given gear.. For those of you who don't know, it's an awesome physics-based car testing program, has hundreds of cars pre-programmed into it. It's DOS-only. - reid > This really depends on the gearing and power curve. > > Back in the early 70's with my 240Z, I got 23 or so at 55 (bad old days) and > 26-27 at 70. Some engines just aren't meant to go slow. > > Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters > Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced > > A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, > the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:27 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:19:59 -0400 > > From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > > > Reading all these mileage posts during the day made me want to measure my > > car's mileage on the way home :) > > > > The car is a 1995 M3 with an AA Stage1 turbo kit with custom tuning. The > > results are: > > > > 70mph = 27.2mpg > > 75mph = 27.8mpg (yes, higher!......go figure) > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: mileage - from Daniel Snyder
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:40:53 -0700 From: "Daniel Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: mileage "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> said: > > My friends were surprised to hear that I bought a car that requires 91+ > octane. My wife had (has) the same problem. Luckily every new car she has been looking at has the same requirement. Unfortunately, we in CA can now only get 91 (without the +). > You aren't the same Daniel Snyder that owns the Washington Redskins, are > you? I'm guessing no since you're on the other coast. Just think of all > the E46M3s Snyder could have bought with the money he spent on the Skins a > few years back. [sigh] Big sigh...not related (at all)...I'd still have the E46M3, but lots of other (red) cars as well. Maybe someday. Dan S.
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#4. : Gas Mileage - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 20:49:53 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: : Gas Mileage the Mileage we are getting seems to be all over the lot....Most seem to feel its related to driving style....Well, in my case, I'm averaging about 20 mpg, in combined city and highway driving. But then, I also have a Supercharger. I also am approaching 25K miles on my original set of Pilot Sports...That's actual driving...I change them over to winters each December through March. It looks like I'll get near 30K actual miles on the rears before I need replacing..As to driving style, I usually shift gears between 3500 and 4500 rpms, but frequently exceend 5500 rpms....As for rubber, I only occasionally burn it, which used to be a more frequent occurence. Since my clutch is on its latter half of life, I take it a bit easier on that aspect these days....The car, with 33K miles is running absolutely incredibly well....Since I got the SC about 25K miles ago, Ive had zero problems, zero nagging issues, and zero annoyances...Its really been great. I dont even miss not having an E46 :--) --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 35K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#5. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Matt Henson
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... Cartest is available for windows if you pay the license fee. I agree that it is a cool program. I've found that it doesn't do as good a job with turbo cars since the author doesn't believe in the existance of lag but whaddya gonna do.. http://www.cartest2000.com/ -Matt --- Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 17:34:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > Interesting.. every car i've ever run thru cartest > has a downward slope > all the way as speed increases in a given gear.. > > For those of you who don't know, it's an awesome > physics-based car testing > program, has hundreds of cars pre-programmed into > it. It's DOS-only. > > - reid > > > This really depends on the gearing and power > curve. > > > > Back in the early 70's with my 240Z, I got 23 or > so at 55 (bad old days) and > > 26-27 at 70. Some engines just aren't meant to go > slow. > > > > Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and > Genesee Valley Chapters > > Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, > X-Braced > > > > A well regulated militia being necessary to the > security of a free State, > > the right of the people to keep and bear arms > shall not be infringed. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 6:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:19:59 -0400 > > > From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > > > > > Reading all these mileage posts during the day > made me want to measure my > > > car's mileage on the way home :) > > > > > > The car is a 1995 M3 with an AA Stage1 turbo kit > with custom tuning. The > > > results are: > > > > > > 70mph = 27.2mpg > > > 75mph = 27.8mpg (yes, higher!......go figure) > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > > List Commands > > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > > Send a message with the command you wish > executed as the > > > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed > as the > > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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#6. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:36:37 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... In a message dated 10/5/01 12:41:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kevingregg@home.com writes: I can get 27 mph on the highway and 22 mpg combined city/highway. This is on a stock 97 M3 with 37K miles. Dido, I can do the same in my '97. Maybe that was a fine engine year ;-)) Then again, I think I get about 2mpg when I autox...but I don't care ;-)) I'll tell you what, coming home on the hwy from an autox I played some games with the cruise control and watched the computer calculate the mpg. At around 55mph I got the best mileage, anything above and the mpg started going down. Experiment over, 55 is for when I'm so old I can't squeeze the gas pedal hard enough, for now it's 70mph and about 24mpg, 22mpg with AC on! Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001
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#7. Re: [E36M3] mileage... And Premium Gas - from Bill P
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:42:32 -0400 From: "Bill P" <casanova@yorkhost.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... And Premium Gas Best I got was 415 miles with the cruise set at 80 or so, on a full tank going down I-95 to Florida. That is about 25 mpg. Now I get about 250 - 275 miles out of a tank city/Hwy driving. I guess that Supercharger eats some gas. Well I only paid $1.59 for Sunoco Ultra 94. I paid $1.18 for regular 87 Octane for my Montero last week. Prices are pretty nice here in PA. Has anyone read the article in Car&Driver about Premium gas. It seems that you get some HP with better gas. I can attest that my car runs much better with Sunoco 94 then with other High Grade stuff (93). This makes me wonder if all the other Premium Gas labled at 93 is realy 93 octane. You can feel the difference from a tank of say Texaco 93 to Sunoco 94. From what I understand, here in PA, NJ, NY, MD, DL, area that Sunoco and Amaco are the best fuels. Has anyone noticed the same thing with different premium brands. Bill P PS The Sunoco 100 Octane realy makes my car scream. But the approx $5.00 a gallon price is way steep. PSS Stay away from the "cheap" premium gas from like Sheetz, 7-Eleven and other Mini-Markets. That stuff is horrible.
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#8. Transmission Replacement??!! - from Roy Kao
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Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 00:18:59 -0400 From: "Roy Kao" <bimmerphile@hotmail.com> Subject: Transmission Replacement??!! I brought my car in to the dealer for an Inspection I this morning and to have them look into an occasional stiff shifter out of third gear. The result of their investigation was shocking to say the least: they now have a request in to BMW Canada to see if they can get me a replacement transmission! I have had this problem for quite some time and other than some annoyance at times, I never expected an ill transmission. Apparently, the technician drained the transmission fluid and found metal shaving in the fluid. I am not a hard shifter and can count on one hand the number of times I've ground a gear. The car has just under 50,000 miles on the odometer and is very regularly maintained. Have other digesters experienced this? I do have a short shift, an adaptation of the M Roadster/Coupe shifter and the car does go to driving schools quite regularly. I think the policy is for BMW Canada to provide a refurbished transmission, if they give the dealer the go-ahead. The lease is coming up in May of '02 and I was considering buying the car out instead of taking delivery of an E46 M3 I have on order but this is scaring me a bit. Any input from fellow digesters would be greatly appreciated!! Roy '99 M3/2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#9. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:36:45 -0600 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... Huh. I was getting 23+ around town and 29-30 on interstate runs (75-80 mph) in my '95. Since I put the turbo on I've lost between 1 and 2 off of those figures. Except when I go to the track. Then it gets ugly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Tom" <stom@qualcomm.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 9:37 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 08:33:54 -0700 > From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > > WWWHHHHHAAAAATTT. I have yet to get over 20 with an average of > 16-17!!!!! I don't know how the hell you guys do this. I see people write > that they get high mileage but I always assume people are lying. But now > I'm beginning to wonder??? I always have to fill my tank at 250 miles > usually taking about 15-15.5 gallons!! What the f#%$@^&?? Maybe I have a > special car that has a bigger appetite? I think Mark Radelow and I have > about the same gas mileage. hmmm Maybe it's the crappy gas here in San > Diego. Ohh maybe that explains why we are still paying > $2.00/gallon/supreme/91octane. What do you guys pay? $5.00/gallon???? > > Wondering in amazement? > > steve > 96 M3 horrible gas mileage > > At 06:07 AM 10/5/01 -0500, Scott King wrote: > >Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 07:07:33 -0400 From: "Scott King" Subject: mileage... > > > > > >I can routinely get 30mpg on the freeway if I just set the cruise at > >70-75mph and go...its all in the right foot... Of course I live in Ohio > >and the trips I take are routinely straight and flat... > > > >I have even seen close to 32mpg a few times since installing my exhaust, > >shark, and Jim C. intake... > > > >Now if the car didn't sound so good now, maybe I could regularly repeat > >these performances... > > > >Scott K. > >*************************************************** > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#10. Mileage schmileage - from Andy Chi
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Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Chi <m3flyer@yahoo.com> Subject: Mileage schmileage Man I love this list, now I know that I am not the only one getting 15 to 17mpg. Oh and my car eats oil, must be all those boucing off the limiter stunt. BTW, that one time when my dear ole friend "Butthead" made it from LA Valley to the Bay Area in a hair less than 4 hours, it took 2 tanks of gas. Too bad he no longer has a gf with a CHP daddy... Oh and "training Day" was a darn good movie. Andy 98 M3 black/black __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1