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#1. Re: Mileage schmileage - from Bill P
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:19:38 -0400 From: "Bill P" <casanova@yorkhost.com> Subject: Re: Mileage schmileage My car has 80,000 miles on it. I fill it with 7 1/2 quarts of Mobil 1 when I change the oil and filter every 3000 miles. I only get approx (+/-) 6 quarts out. It that the norm for this car? I guess I should start adding a 1/2 quart every 1000 miles. Bill P -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Chi <m3flyer@yahoo.com> Subject: Mileage schmileage Man I love this list, now I know that I am not the only one getting 15 to 17mpg. Oh and my car eats oil, must be all those boucing off the limiter stunt. BTW, that one time when my dear ole friend "Butthead" made it from LA Valley to the Bay Area in a hair less than 4 hours, it took 2 tanks of gas. Too bad he no longer has a gf with a CHP daddy... Oh and "training Day" was a darn good movie. Andy 98 M3 black/black __________________________________________________
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#2. Water pump blew up (or thermostat, unsure) - from Brent95M3@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:56:33 EDT From: Brent95M3@aol.com Subject: Water pump blew up (or thermostat, unsure) Bad stuff happened. Water pump went kablooey. Ok, I am in san antonio, there is one bmw dealer here and they know it (so they rape you). Wanting to know if there are any good independent shops in the area. other option - replace it myself What is uberjephs site w/ the details of the install? Anyone thats done it, hwo hard is it and how long does it take, what tools are needed. I have the accessibility of a garage for a few days (i'm on a college campus, can't very well change it here). What does a water pump cost? thermostat? Sorry for the terrible grammar but i'm upset right now. would appreciate any input/info you can give me. Brent Parks License plate: 1 BAD M3 Now: 1 WOUNDED M3
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#3. mileage... - from David Hogg
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 06:28:39 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: mileage... >Maybe you apply too much pressure with your right foot? ;-) >I can get 27 mph on the highway and 22 mpg combined city/highway. This is >on a stock 97 M3 with 37K miles. Me, too (actually about 1 mpg better on both) except I'm sharked/intaked with 245's all around on a 98 with 44,000 miles. I've hit 30 mpg on cruise control at 65 mph. And no, my tire wear stinks! Might it be that ASC+T is a mileage hog? It makes intuitive sense since it's fighting the throttle partly with the brakes. I always turn it off as part of the starting routine, though not for the mileage benefit ; ^ )) Dave Hogg
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#4. mileage... (again) - from David Hogg
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 06:36:13 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: mileage... (again) So, what will happen to my mileage when Josh announces that I can actually buy those cams he's worked up with JC? Dave Hogg
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Mileage (now oil consumption) - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 10:50:08 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mileage (now oil consumption) I believe the list hit this topic about one or two years back. The short of it, as I recall, is that some M3 engines consume lots of oil while others do not, something called specification tolerances! Mine does not consume a noticeable amount between 3,000 mile changes and never has from day one. Switched engine over to Mobil 1 when I got the baby home from the Dealer on day one and been on it ever since. Summer/Fall 15W-50, Winter/Spring 10W-30. This engine is never pampered ;-)) Note: I believe BMW says normal oil consumption is up to 1.5 quarts per 1,000 miles, some ridiculous figure. Someone correct me, I'm probably wrong...aah, having one of those senior moments ;-( Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA AS Champion 1997 & 2000 #13 BSP 2001
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Transmission Replacement??!! - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Transmission Replacement??!! Roy, The E36M3's transmission is usually quite bulletproof. Lots of us run 350-400 ft-lbs through it every day with no problems. I think that maybe you just got an unlucky one. Given how good these units typically are, I wouldn't hesitate to use a refurbished one.. -Matt > The lease is coming up in May > of '02 and I was > considering buying the car out instead of taking > delivery of an E46 M3 I > have on order but this is scaring me a bit. Any > input from fellow digesters > would be greatly appreciated!! > > Roy > '99 M3/2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Mileage (now oil consumption) - from Matt Henson
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:04:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mileage (now oil consumption) I wouldn't be surprised. Porsches are the same way. They allow at least 1Q/1000 miles, which is enough to smoke at startup and maybe other times. My Boxster uses about 1Q/3000 miles. My M3 used almost no oil but since I put in the turbo it consumes around 1Q/2000 in normal driving and twice that on the track. Not a big deal. As long as it doesn't smoke I take it as part of the whole performance package.. -Matt --- Mdriver13@aol.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 10:50:08 EDT > From: Mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Mileage (now oil > consumption) \ > > Note: I believe BMW says normal oil consumption is > up to 1.5 quarts per > 1,000 miles, some ridiculous figure. Someone > correct me, I'm probably > wrong...aah, having one of those senior moments ;-( __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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#8. Re: Retrofit Cruise Control + OBC - from John Firestone
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Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:52:48 -0400 (EDT) From: John Firestone <john.firestone@nord-com.net> Subject: Re: Retrofit Cruise Control + OBC On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: > Dorffer, Rich [mailto:RDORFFER@CleIndians.com] wrote: > > > > Has anyone here ever retrofitted OE cruise control onto an > > E36 M3? What did it cost and how difficult was it? Did it > > work as well as the factory installed option? > > AFAIK the harnesses are different between cruise control and non-CC cars. > So if you want to retrofit CC to a non-CC E36 car you should be prepared to > splice some wires with ETM in hand or even lay some extra wiring if > necessary. > Now add the cost of a CC brain, new CC-enabled throttle body, etc, etc and > it will cost upwards of $1K in new parts. The job may not be so grim. In Europe, BMW offers kits to retrofit cruise control to most E36 models with the exception, the last time I checked, of the European M3. Perhaps the kit for the 328i could be adapted to the U.S. model. If I remember correctly, the cost was in the neighborhood of 1000 DM ($500). > > It also did not have the OBC, alarm or armrest, all of which > > the buyer is interested in. I told him the armrest and the > > alarm are easy and I would not touch the OBC retrofit with a > > ten foot pole. > > I think John Firestone had posted about retrofitting OBC to his E36. Again, > lack of universal modular wiring harness was a PITA, but I think he managed > to get it to work. I would say the job was not so bad; I found adding electric rear vent windows was much harder. The only real challenges in retrofitting the OBC were at the very beginning and very end: first, extracting accurate engineering data out of the ETM's, and finally, working around a stubborn Meister who wouldn't agree to code it. (He thought it pointless.) The actually wiring and rewiring was straight forward and uneventful. -John '96 318is -- john.firestone@nord-com.net
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#9. Re: [E36M3] mileage... - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:50:57 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... I suspect that the wide variation in reported numbers is due to differing measurement methods. When I stated my numbers, I was referring to the indication on my Consumption #1 indicator, which gets reset at each fillup. So, the numbers I provided were an average for an ENTIRE TANK of fuel. If I clear my consumption indicator while cruising at 65MPH on a flat interstate, with cruise control on, and let it come up with an 'average' reading for 5-10 minutes, it'll be outrageously high. It's like watching the instantaneous MPG readout on my father's Cadillac (*barf*). One second he's getting 33 MPG, another second he's getting 14.5 MPG. Neither one provides an accurate indication of the MPG that the car is getting for a tankful of gas, which is the way most people measure it. For measurement over a partial tank, I question the validity of the numbers. -rb ....got 35 MPG going down a hill today... ;-) >Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:19:59 -0400 >From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... > >Reading all these mileage posts during the day made me want to measure my >car's mileage on the way home :) > >The car is a 1995 M3 with an AA Stage1 turbo kit with custom tuning. The >results are: > >70mph = 27.2mpg >75mph = 27.8mpg (yes, higher!......go figure) > >Nick _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#10. Re: Transmission Replacement??!! - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 01:03:50 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Transmission Replacement??!! Roy, My E30 318i had a magnetic oil drain plug in the transmission, and every time I replaced the oil (once per year, Redline MTL), the magnet was coated with fine metal particles (like metal filings). Once or twice I found a small piece of metal. The transmission now has 254k miles on it, and it still works as well as the day I got the car (with 16k miles). Sounds like the dealer's paranoid. But a new transmission, for free, under warranty? I'd take it! -rb >Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 00:18:59 -0400 >From: "Roy Kao" <bimmerphile@hotmail.com> >Subject: Transmission Replacement??!! > >I brought my car in to the dealer for an Inspection I this morning and to >have them look into an occasional stiff shifter out of third gear. The >result of their investigation was shocking to say the least: they now have >a request in to BMW Canada to see if they can get me a replacement >transmission! > >I have had this problem for quite some time and other than some annoyance >at times, I never expected an ill transmission. Apparently, the technician >drained the transmission fluid and found metal shaving in the fluid. I am >not a hard shifter and can count on one hand the number of times I've >ground a gear. The car has just under 50,000 miles on the odometer and is >very regularly maintained. Have other digesters experienced this? > >I do have a short shift, an adaptation of the M Roadster/Coupe shifter and >the car does go to driving schools quite regularly. I think the policy is >for BMW Canada to provide a refurbished transmission, if they give the >dealer the go-ahead. The lease is coming up in May of '02 and I was >considering buying the car out instead of taking delivery of an E46 M3 I >have on order but this is scaring me a bit. Any input from fellow >digesters would be greatly appreciated!! > >Roy >'99 M3/2 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp