E36M3 #1670

Sunday, October 07, 2001 10:29:34

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. How do you people fit w/ Helmets? - from Hank Wallace
#2. E36 vs E46 drag race - from Rob
#3. Re: [E36M3] How do you people fit w/ Helmets? - from Chris Teague
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Mileage schmileage - from Lee Conte
#5. RE: [E36M3] mileage... - from Lee Conte
#6. airbag light reset - from Reid Conti
#7. MultiFunction Display Help - from Daniel
#8. Springs as they age - from David Hogg
#9. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from The Abels
#10. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from twisty M3

-------------------- 1 --------------------

#1. How do you people fit w/ Helmets? - from Hank Wallace
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:09:22 -0400 From: "Hank Wallace" <hwallace@ebimmer.com> Subject: How do you people fit w/ Helmets? I am the owner of a '99 M3 coupe and will be taking it to its first autox tomorrow. I normally autox my '93 MR2 and have to take the tops off to fit with my helmet on. I put the helmet on tonight and squeezed into the M3, but had to slouch just to get in. How do you people do it? I am 6'1'' - there must be others my height with this issue.. Are the power seats in my M3 causing this issue? Do the manual seats sit lower? Hank Wallace

Reply to: Hank Wallace

Top

-------------------- 2 --------------------

#2. E36 vs E46 drag race - from Rob
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:40:15 -0600 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: E36 vs E46 drag race Oh I just know I should stop right now before I start a war but I'll recount my tale from today anyway. Spent a great day at the track burning off the last shreds of sticky rubber before the snows go on and a senior instructor friend of mine had his new E46 M3 there, and with 10,000km it was finally broken in, so... The track was almost empty so we decided to go out for a few all-out fun laps to see how the cars compared (my '95 3.0L, JC Euro HFM, AA exhaust, coil-overs, bars, 100lb lightened, etc) around the course. The new car was good but honestly didn't seem to have anywhere near the grip or body control of my modifed E36, and while he understeered, oversteered, and tried to finesse the car around the track I drove 10ft behind him wondering when it was going to take off from my old machine, but it never did. We did a few laps and everytime we entered the back straight (100km/h) the cars stayed almost dead even all the way to the braking zone (180km/h) but I know he was short-shifting by a few hundred RPM's.After a cool down in the pits we decided it would be fun to stage a rolling drag race on the long straight. We lined up at about 30km/h in 1st gear and I let the E46 have the "heads up" start (he hit the gas and then I had to react). My E36 got almost 1 car length right off the punch, 1 more lenght through 2nd and 3rd and at about 160km/h (100mph) the gap stayed even until ~180km/h when the E46 started to edge forward but was still not able to pull even with my car when we had to brake at ~210km/h. Yes I know the these are not drag cars but it was fun to try and I am pretty happy with the 'ol E36. Can't wait to get the Schricks and big injectors in there!. Flame away with how fast the E46 is (I do admit it is an amazing car!) but I'll put my money on my light E36 to 100mph anyday :) Rob

Reply to: Rob

Top

-------------------- 3 --------------------

#3. Re: [E36M3] How do you people fit w/ Helmets? - from Chris Teague
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:22:45 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How do you people fit w/ Helmets? Hank, I am 6'0", and I have manual seats (set on low all the time), and no sunroof. So actually, I fit fine in the M3. For cars that I don't clear, I have to angle the seatback some. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:09:22 -0400 > From: "Hank Wallace" <hwallace@ebimmer.com> > Subject: How do you people fit w/ Helmets? > > > I am the owner of a '99 M3 coupe and will be taking it to its first autox > tomorrow. I normally autox my '93 MR2 and have to take the tops off to fit > with my helmet on. I put the helmet on tonight and squeezed into the M3, > but had to slouch just to get in. How do you people do it? I am 6'1'' - > there must be others my height with this issue.. > > Are the power seats in my M3 causing this issue? Do the manual seats sit > lower? > > Hank Wallace

Reply to: Chris Teague

Top

-------------------- 4 --------------------

#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Mileage schmileage - from Lee Conte
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:24:02 -0700 From: "Lee Conte" <leeconte@home.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Mileage schmileage < Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 02:19:38 -0400 < From: "Bill P" <casanova@yorkhost.com> < Subject: Re: Mileage schmileage < < My car has 80,000 miles on it. I fill it with 7 1/2 quarts of < Mobil 1 when I < change the oil and filter every 3000 miles. I only get approx (+/-) 6 < quarts out. It that the norm for this car? I guess I should start adding a < 1/2 quart every 1000 miles. My car drinks about a quart every 500 miles. There are never any oil drips on the garage floor or parking lot, and I don't notice white smoke being emitted, so I assume it drinks it. ------------------------------ Lee Conte San Diego, California

Reply to: Lee Conte

Top

-------------------- 5 --------------------

#5. RE: [E36M3] mileage... - from Lee Conte
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:34:14 -0700 From: "Lee Conte" <leeconte@home.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] mileage... < Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:50:57 < From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> < Subject: Re: [E36M3] mileage... < < I suspect that the wide variation in reported numbers is due to differing < measurement methods. When I stated my numbers, I was referring to the < indication on my Consumption #1 indicator, which gets reset at < each fillup. < So, the numbers I provided were an average for an ENTIRE TANK of fuel. < < If I clear my consumption indicator while cruising at 65MPH on a flat < interstate, with cruise control on, and let it come up with an 'average' < reading for 5-10 minutes, it'll be outrageously high. It's like watching < the instantaneous MPG readout on my father's Cadillac (*barf*). < One second < he's getting 33 MPG, another second he's getting 14.5 MPG. Neither one < provides an accurate indication of the MPG that the car is getting for a < tankful of gas, which is the way most people measure it. < < For measurement over a partial tank, I question the validity of < the numbers. I noticed something interesting today. I usually get 18-19mpg, almost 100% of the driving being commuting which includes major time working gears below 30mph, sprints at my usual ~95mph, and lots of biding my time behind some slowass, finding an opening, then jamming around them at WOT. Today I went on a leisurely drive ... 2-lane road following traffic at ~60mph I averaged 25mpg even though the terrain was fairly hilly. Coming back I took an interstate, doing my usual 90-99, and I think the final reading for today is still around 23-24mpg. ------------------------------ Lee Conte San Diego, California

Reply to: Lee Conte

Top

-------------------- 6 --------------------

#6. airbag light reset - from Reid Conti
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:47:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: airbag light reset I've seen this talked about before, but I think it always involved using a tool... but since the oil service lights can be reset by shorting the pins on the service tool port, can't I reset my airbag light using a similar paperclip-mechanic method? I was hardwiring my V1, and I blew the fuse for the vanity and maplights a few times.. turns out the airbag shares this fuse (the airbag has two fuses -- how does this work, anyhow?) thanks - reid

Reply to: Reid Conti

Top

-------------------- 7 --------------------

#7. MultiFunction Display Help - from Daniel
Top
Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 22:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel <m3_driver@yahoo.com> Subject: MultiFunction Display Help I am looking for a multi function display (not the obc unit) for a early production E36 M3 (4/94) If anybody has one available or knows where I can get one from a 'break-out', please let me know Thanks Dan Houston __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Reply to: Daniel

Top

-------------------- 8 --------------------

#8. Springs as they age - from David Hogg
Top
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:05:33 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: Springs as they age When this thread ran a few months ago, it seemed inconclusive and that's bugged me ever since. The springs on my '95 are now about .5" shorter than they used to be and they seem to me to feel a little mushy, but that part could just be in my head. Since I have two nephews on their respective university Formula SAE racing teams, I consulted them, and they in turn have been consulting their senior professors. Here's the answer from Duke: >>With springs F=kx, force = spring constant * displacement from equilibrium. The force, weight of car, hopefully hasn't changed, so either the spring constant has gone down or the equilibrium position of the spring, length when under no force, has decreased. k is force per unit length, newtons per meter or lbs per foot, so the larger the k, the stiffer the spring. Basically your springs are now shorter and softer. Nephew Andy<< >>The springs are undergoing some plastic deformation. This tends to make them less resilient, and thus k goes down. Both of your intuitions are correct - the spring constant has decreased and the equilibrium position has changed. Dr. Michael R. Gustafson II Assistant Chair, Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering<< That's good enough for me, unless Cornell would contradict it for some reason. They have yet to check in. (X is good but (k is very bad. Looks like I'm in the market for springs. Hope this is helpful for others on the list. Thanks, Andy! Uncle Dave Hogg

Reply to: David Hogg

Top

-------------------- 9 --------------------

#9. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from The Abels
Top
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:41:33 -0500 From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race Wow, stock gearing, 'standard' bolt-ons, and you did more than hold your own! Was the E46 wearing track shoes? Why was he short shifting? When you look at a dyno comparing a modded E36 and a stock E46, the real advantage of the E46 is above 6500 rpm. http://www.activeautowerke.com/dyno/01%20M3%20vs%2095%20M3%20level2.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob <motor@cadvision.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 10:39 PM Subject: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race > Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 21:40:15 -0600 > From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> > Subject: E36 vs E46 drag race > > Oh I just know I should stop right now before I start a war but I'll > recount my tale from today anyway. > > Spent a great day at the track burning off the last shreds of sticky rubber > before the snows go on and a senior instructor friend of mine had his new > E46 M3 there, and with 10,000km it was finally broken in, so... > The track was almost empty so we decided to go out for a few all-out fun > laps to see how the cars compared (my '95 3.0L, JC Euro HFM, AA exhaust, > coil-overs, bars, 100lb lightened, etc) around the course. The new car was > good but honestly didn't seem to have anywhere near the grip or body control > of my modifed E36, and while he understeered, oversteered, and tried to > finesse the car around the track I drove 10ft behind him wondering when it > was going to take off from my old machine, but it never did. We did a few > laps and everytime we entered the back straight (100km/h) the cars stayed > almost dead even all the way to the braking zone (180km/h) but I know he was > short-shifting by a few hundred RPM's.After a cool down in the pits we > decided it would be fun to stage a rolling drag race on the long straight. > We lined up at about 30km/h in 1st gear and I let the E46 have the "heads > up" start (he hit the gas and then I had to react). My E36 got almost 1 car > length right off the punch, 1 more lenght through 2nd and 3rd and at about > 160km/h (100mph) the gap stayed even until ~180km/h when the E46 started to > edge forward but was still not able to pull even with my car when we had to > brake at ~210km/h. Yes I know the these are not drag cars but it was fun to > try and I am pretty happy with the 'ol E36. Can't wait to get the Schricks > and big injectors in there!. > Flame away with how fast the E46 is (I do admit it is an amazing car!) but > I'll put my money on my light E36 to 100mph anyday :) > > Rob > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

Reply to: The Abels

Top

-------------------- 10 --------------------

#10. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from twisty M3
Top
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 08:24:44 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race <html><div style='background-color:'><P>Wow!  That '95 must be pretty darn quick with those bolt ons!  Was he still shifting a few hundred rpms short on your last set of rolling drags?  A friend and I had done some similar "tests" with my '99 (ECIS, Conforti...) and a convertible E46 M3 that he managed to get his hands on for a weekend.  My car was noticeably beat in each test.  No rolling starts from 5 mph or anything, but plenty of 50 mph and above tests.  The faster we'd get, the more significant the difference was.  No matter what I'd do, he'd gain significantly on me.  All this, and he claimed that my car seemed to be one of the stonger E36 M3s he'd come across (works for a fine automotive publication, and has a bit of experience with these cars).</P> <P>As for comparing our two cars through the twisty bits, that wouldn't be a fair comparison yet.  On public roads (especially those that I don't know), I haven't seemed to have been able to grow a full-sized set of juevos, so all those tests were definitely in favor of the E46.</P> <P>I'm pretty impressed that the '95 was able to do so well against the E46 at the track.</P> <P>Jonathan L.</P></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html>

Reply to: twisty M3

Top