E36M3 #1676

Monday, October 08, 2001 15:19:41

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#1. RE: [E36M3] airbag light reset - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#2. Clutch/Dual-Mass Flywheel Replacement??!! - from Heckendorf, David
#3. RE: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from The Abels
#5. JC Cam Kit on 99-00 M Coupe (was E36 vs E46 drag race) - from Wen Liew
#6. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from Jason Lombard
#7. RE: [E36M3] Springs as they age - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#8. Gas Cap Cover Question - from Rich
#9. [E36M3] WTB: Dinan Sway Bars - from twisty M3
#10. Re: E36 vs E46 drag race - from Daniel Snyder

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#1. RE: [E36M3] airbag light reset - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:30:32 -0400 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] airbag light reset Reid Conti [mailto:reid@conti.net] wrote: > > I've seen this talked about before, but I think it always > involved using a tool... but since the oil service lights > can be reset by shorting the pins on the service tool port, > can't I reset my airbag light using a similar paperclip- > mechanic method? nope. alex f

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#2. Clutch/Dual-Mass Flywheel Replacement??!! - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:33:09 -0600 From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> Subject: Clutch/Dual-Mass Flywheel Replacement??!! Anyone have experience with their dealer replacing the Flywheel and/or Clutch under warranty?? I suspect that my Dual-Mass flywheel (and perhaps the clutch) may be on it's way out... While the car is cold (it seems to go away once the car is hot), as I let out the clutch, there is a "hesitation" to the acceleration (it feels like the clutch is slipping); however, it continues a little after the clutch has been let out completely. I don't feel this problem in any other gear even under hard acceleration. The fact that it goes away when the car heats up seems counter-intuitive to the Clutch being worn-out (at least in a traditional sense) as I would think the heat would make the problem worse not make it disappear. This is happening during normal (i.e. not aggressive at all, 1000-1250 RPM) acceleration from a standing stop in first gear. I can't imagine that this is from abuse as the car has ~33K miles on it and I don't abuse my clutch by doing "drag race" starts and "slipping" the clutch during shifts. Thoughts/experiences with dealers replacing under warranty? How many miles has your stock clutch lasted you? Thx!, Dave

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#3. RE: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:42:12 -0400 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race Jason Lombard [mailto:racebro@santacruzbicycles.com] wrote: > > Forgive me if this question has been answered, but I'm going > to play the natural skeptic. Josh is claiming 286hp at the rear > wheels. What I want to know is, what else is on the car? Jason, Those 286 Rhp where measured on an E46 M3. Unless I missed something, that car is still stock. > The M3 reaches fuel limitations at around 270, and starts to > hit intake limitations (stock MAF) at 278 (approx). Who told you that? If that were true, JimC's euroHFM kit would come with larger injectors. It doesn't. For a reason. > Obviously this car was not stock w/cams, but I'd like to know > exactly what was in it. I've seen top notch tuner cars have > difficulty hitting those numbers with any repeatability or > reliability-- ones with access to BMW's tuning equipment. I think the key component in any kit your buy for your M3 is the JimC's chip. Some of those "top notch" tuners will tell you anything to take your money. And will lie to your face after the sale to keep it. Even if you catch them red handed. One of them** sold me a euroHFM kit with a "version of JimC chip" that ran like shit. In fact, the first "JimC" chip they sent me would not even idle. They claimed that I should have ordered larger 24 # injectors to go with the euroHFM setup, and the first chip they sent me was programmed for 24# injectors even though I did not order them. Eventually sent me another "JimC" chip that would work with "stock" injectors. The car did idle and I even ran three autoXs with that chip before putting the car on a dyno. Imagine what I felt when the dyno showed red-zone lean conditions (up to 16:1 air/fuel ratio!) while putting out 210 RW hp and 207.7 ft.#s of torque (well short of a euroHFM mark). I called the "top notch" tuner and they sang the "we told you should have bought our 24# injectors song". Smelling a rat, I sent the chip to JimC for post mortem that revealed that: a). the "top notch" tuner is not authorized to sell real JimC chips (they sold me a fake JimC chip). b). the chip the said tuner sold me was an incompetently ripped-off copy of JimC's 24# injector chip re-calibrated to run with 19# Ford injectors (they sold me a bad JimC's knock-off calibrated for non '95 M3 injectors!). To cut my losses I immediately ordered a real JimC chip. The same car on the same dyno with the same setup but with a REAL JimC chip from Josh than ran 227.7 RW HP and 216.3 ft.#s. THAT is 100% the difference coming from the proper chip! alex f ** The name of the guilty party will remain anonymous for now to give them another chance to refund me on their bogus JimC chip.

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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from The Abels
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:48:00 -0500 From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race Oh, didn't realize it was a sedan. That changes everything! hehe Jeff 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh <eurosprt@xmission.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net>; The Abels <aAbel@austin.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race > Remember that the gearing differences of the E46 M3 (364) to E36 M3 > (315/323) aren't that different if you include the increased tire diameter > of the E46. BTW I do realize that there are some slight differences in > trans gearing, but I don't think that they are enough to even worry about > (other than a 6th gear;-)) I really think that it is very possible that > the cam kit will take the E36 over the top without a change to the > gearing. Then again I could be talking out of my butt because the car that > I will be acceleration testing against is an otherwise (other than cam kit > that is) stock 4dr 3.2l. > > Josh > Eurosport > > > At 09:48 AM 10/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >-------------------- 3 -------------------- > >Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:41:07 -0500 > >From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race > > > >My experience exactly. My neighbor has shiny new carbon black E46 M3. My > >car only has an intake, and dyno'd at 225 rwhp and 226 ft-lbs. Off the > >line, I wasn't killed. But when we did roll-on tests from 40 and 60 mph, he > >pancaked me. > > > >I would like to think that your cam kit would turn my car into an E46 > >killer, but I bet I'd need the help of more aggressive gearing too. One > >more thing to add to the xmas list. ;) > > > >Jeff 97 M3/4 (anyone got a 3.46 diff and 6-spd for cheap?) >

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#5. JC Cam Kit on 99-00 M Coupe (was E36 vs E46 drag race) - from Wen Liew
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:14:24 -0700 From: "Wen Liew" <wwliew@hotmail.com> Subject: JC Cam Kit on 99-00 M Coupe (was E36 vs E46 drag race) >Remember that the gearing differences of the E46 M3 (364) to E36 M3 >(315/323) aren't that different if you include the increased tire diameter >of the E46. BTW I do realize that there are some slight differences in >trans gearing, but I don't think that they are enough to even worry about >(other than a 6th gear;-)) I really think that it is very possible that >the cam kit will take the E36 over the top without a change to the >gearing. A JC cam kit on 1 99-00 M Coupe vs 01 M Coupe would be interesting. Hp is much closer, same tranny (I think) but lower gearing 3.23 vs. 3.15. Wen _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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#6. Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race - from Jason Lombard
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:19:39 -0700 From: "Jason Lombard" <racebro@santacruzbicycles.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race List, I apologize, I realize that, like Josh, I need to avoid the late night sessions and WAAAAAY to much work. My blurry eyed comments were misplaced, and even on the wrong generation of car (DOH!). As far as what I said applying to the E36, I'm stickin' to it. I'm not talking about what will just work-- but what will work reliably for the long run. I'm not interested in getting into the Jim Conforti vs. The World chip discussion. Jim makes a good product... Jason Lombard __________ > >(snip) my M3 is > > putting out 286hp at the rear wheels est. ~246hp @ crank. They might also > > want to try to figure out how they ended up with an E46 M3 that was > > generating a hp peak at 7250rpms??? > > > > www.eurosporthighperformance.com/cams.html > > > > > > Josh > > Eurosport

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Springs as they age - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:35:53 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Springs as they age David Hogg [mailto:springwood@blazenet.net] wrote: > > When this thread ran a few months ago, it seemed inconclusive > and that's bugged me ever since. The springs on my '95 are now > about .5" shorter than they used to be and they seem to me to > feel a little mushy, but that part could just be in my head. David, Another possibility is that your butt spring rate analyzer is measuring the effect of stock M3 shocks going south, not the springs. Stock Boge shocks are junk soon after 30k miles. If you don't believe me, just ask Lowell what he thinks about M3 shocks ;-) Since shocks are partly compressed when the car's suspension is at the equilibrium, they are supporting some of the car's weight. If you remove the shocks and leave the car sitting on the springs alone (don't even think about driving the car like that), it will drop a bit. The same thing happens as the shocks wear an no longer hold the car up as much. YMMV, alex f

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#8. Gas Cap Cover Question - from Rich
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:45:24 -0400 From: "Rich" <rehrlich98m3@mindspring.com> Subject: Gas Cap Cover Question My 98 M3 gas cap cover, the body colored flap, doesn't stay closed. So unless I hold the cover closed and lock the car, the flap remains unlocked. =20 The flap has a gap of 1/4-1/2 inch that it stays open. Does anyone know how to adjust this flap so it will close properly/ =20 Thanks so much for this information and all the other great advice you all have shared with me. =20 Rich Ehrlich Alpine White 1998 M3=20

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#9. [E36M3] WTB: Dinan Sway Bars - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:07:57 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] WTB: Dinan Sway Bars Back to my thoughts of sway bar comparisons and testing... Anyone on the list looking to sell a set of Dinan bars (front & rear)? I'd consider trading my RD bars or just buying the Dinans outright. Another option would be if anyone happened to have just the rear Dinan bushings for sale, but I'm sure that's not likely. (I believe the rear RDs and Dinans are both 22mm bars) Please respond privately. Thanks, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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#10. Re: E36 vs E46 drag race - from Daniel Snyder
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:18:44 -0700 From: "Daniel Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: E36 vs E46 drag race > From: "Jason Lombard" <racebro@santacruzbicycles.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 vs E46 drag race > > Forgive me if this question has been answered, but I'm going to play the > natural skeptic. Josh is claiming 286hp at the rear wheels. What I want to > know is, what else is on the car? I think the car Josh was referring to as "my M3" is an E46 M3, which in its stock configuration should put out around 286hp at the wheels. The confusion probably arose from the (I assume) typo referring to 246hp at the crank, vs. 346 which would be the normal extrapolation from 286 with 17% loss. Dan S.

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