E36M3 #1678

Monday, October 08, 2001 22:39:31

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" - from Kevin M. Gregg
#2. Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins - from Chris Papademetrious
#3. Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins - from Chester Wong
#4. FS: Euro headlamps - from Sean Ganess
#5. RE: [E36M3] Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" - from Ron Katona
#6. Re: E36 vs E46 drag race - from Paul Elliott
#7. Re: [E36M3] Funny behavior of gas gauge - from Chris Teague
#8. AOL Instant Messenger - from Robert S. Hatrak II
#9. Re: [E36M3] AOL Instant Messenger - from Chester Wong
#10. AOL Instant Messenger - from Rob C Swift

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#1. Re: Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" - from Kevin M. Gregg
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 19:34:39 -0400 From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> Subject: Re: Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" Steve Grigory wrote.... >I got in my car today after lunch and put the key in the ignition and turned >the key. > >And the key just simply turned without doing anything! Very loose feeling. This has happened to me before once in a while, too. When it does, I *gently* turn the steering wheel L or R while turning the key in the ignition. I've always gotten it to start. But something is out of line somewhere. Kevin M. Gregg kevingregg@home.com Columbia MD 1997 BMW M3 Estoril blue coupe BMWCCA member http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 19:33:27 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispitude@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins At 06:18 PM 10/8/2001 -0500, you wrote: >- Intermittently, the turn signals will go into a "fast blink" mode and the >front light does nto work. I thought this was a bulb issue, replaced the >bulb, >but it did not solve the problem. Some times it happens, some times it >doesn't. > >- The electronic climate control mode will "surge" the blower every now and >then, without a change of the actual blower settings. You'll be running the >blower at a medium speed and it will burst for a few seconds, then return to >normal. During this, the settings on the climate control will not have >changed. It almost sounds like the voltage regulator is allowing the system voltage to surge. Does this happen at night? If so, do the headlights brighten? - Chris

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Electrical Gremlins > - Intermittently, the turn signals will go into a "fast blink" mode and the > front light does nto work. I thought this was a bulb issue, replaced the > bulb, > but it did not solve the problem. Some times it happens, some times it > doesn't. Dirty/corroded contacts in the bulb sockets? Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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#4. FS: Euro headlamps - from Sean Ganess
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:18:59 -0400 From: "Sean Ganess" <Sean.Ganess@lostcluster.net> Subject: FS: Euro headlamps Thought I would post this here before putting them up on eBay... I have a pair (left and right) Euro headlamps for sale. These are the ZKW units. Includes bulbs, wiring harness and pins. Boxes have been opened to inspect for damage but never mounted. They are in perfect condition. $375 plus shipping. Please contact me privately.

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" - from Ron Katona
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:02:44 -0400 From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Ignition lock..."funny thing happened today" Alex F. wrote: > Steve, > You will indeed need to start shopping for a new ignition lock. You will > need to have the dealer order a pre-keyed ignition lock cylinder for your > car based on the VIN. I don't know how much it costs (bet over $50) since I > got this covered under BMW warranty on my wife's car. > Unlike earlier ignition locks, the thief deterrent measures inside E36 locks > are plastic and subject to fatigue and premature failure. It's there to > brake if someone tries to take a screw driver to your ignition lock. If > you've ever manhandled the ignition key into turning with the wheel lock > engaged, you were bumping against that theft deterrent pin. At least that's > how she did hers in. I had to teach her to finesse the steering wheel into > turning and disengaging the steering lock as you turn the ignition key. I replaced mine this spring after the spinning went from intermittent to most of the time. Alex is right on the cost and also the cause of the breakage - learn to jiggle the wheel and never even firmly twist the ignition if it's stubborn. I don't recall the exact cost but $50-$60 rings a bell. The lock cylinder is what breaks and it's actually metal, not plastic. There's a small metal tab (about 1/8"x1/8") that sticks out from the lock cylinder and fits into a metal slot in the ring around the lock cylinder in the steering column. When that tab breaks the cylinder will spin. Because there are a couple spring-loaded pins that line up when you start the car, there's enough friction that you can usually start the car with the key even with a broken tab just by correctly lining up the lock cylinder by sheer luck... that's why it will work intermittently. However, if your ignition cylinder spins even once, you can be sure the tab is either partially or fully broken off and you need a new lock cylinder. Replacing it isn't too bad, just remove a panel on the steering column, release a catch, insert the key, and pull the cylinder out. Lining up the pins on the lock cylinder to reinstall is a bit frustrating; it's a trial and error procedure. I was about to give up after about 20 minutes when mine just seemed to pop into place on its own (there's probably a trick to it that I missed). The Bentley has a pretty good write up on it and it is an easy DIY job. You can't really hurt anything by doing it yourself - no EWS worries or anything like that. -- Ron Katona '95 M3

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#6. Re: E36 vs E46 drag race - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 22:05:36 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: E36 vs E46 drag race Rob, >>......but, if we race 3+ times back to back his car starts to suffer from heat soak (even on a 60F day) << Yes, this is unfortunately the truth...Take a look at the activeautowerkes web site for what happens on the dyno as a result of heat soak...Thats why I will probably be getting their water injection kit before too long. Although I must say that, now that its been in the 40s and 50s up here (metro NY), any fall off in performance due to heat soak seems MUCH less prevalent. Still, its quite surprising, even with the weight advantage to your car, that your car, which is probably putting out about 275 crank hp can stay with your partner's which is probably rated at close to 350 crank hp. Even with the heat soak, I doubt it has lost more than 40 hp, so its still power advantage him. Yet, with you weight savings, and low end torque advantage, I can see why you ve done so well. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 35K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> To: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: E36 vs E46 drag race > Paul, > let me start by saying that I should probably have kept this story to myself > because I know I'm going to catch some heat A-because I was drag racing > BMW's and B- because many will say it was (E46) driver error or I'm full of > BS but I have owned many fast cars and I am very sure of what happened. The > E46 driver/instructor was equally surprised and had no excuses about his > cars performance. > > > Thanks for recounting the story...I found it fun reading......Do you have > > any dyno runs, or times 0-60 runs on your modified OBDI M3? > **No I do not, although the common JC Euro HFM, chip & exhaust combo has > been tested many time. I will dyno my car before and after I install the > Schrick cams and big injectors. > > >For you to stay with the E46 would seem to indicate that youve probably > added at least 40 hp to your stock setup...But even so, that would give you > around 280 hp at the crank, which is certainly not unheard of with modified > OBDI M3s, which is well short of the power available on the E46...Perhaps > the wt differential between yours and the E46 would account for the > performance similarity. > **I think it is mostly due to the light weigh of my car. I have removed > ~100lbs or more and the car feel very quick on its feet. This means my car > is ~400+lbs lighter than the stock E46 M3 I raced. > > > Let me ask you...I dont know if you have any familiarty with supercharged > > OBDIIs, but, would you care to venture a guess as to how one would have > done had it been a trio instead of a twosome at your track tests? > **My partner has a '99 M3/2 with an ERT Votrec kit and SS exhaust. Similar > things happen when we race. I always jump about 1 car off the punch but that > is about all I can gain on him and them around 160km/h (100mph) he pull > beside me and at 200km/h (124mph) he is 1 -1.5 cars ahead of me......but, if > we race 3+ times back to back his car starts to suffer from heat soak (even > on a 60F day) and he can't really pull ahead of me. Keep in mind that his > '99 M3 with SC and 4pt cage probably weighs ~200lbs more than my car. > > Light is the key! Next on my list is carbon hood to save another 40lbs, > 3.23 LSD and the cams+injectors. Those new M3's better have some tricks up > their sleeves! > > Rob > > >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Funny behavior of gas gauge - from Chris Teague
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:21:09 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Funny behavior of gas gauge John, I can only say mine has done the same thing a few times. Only after a fillup. Sometimes after a fillup, it just shows 1/8 or 1/4 tank for about 20 miles. After 20 miles or so, it works fine again. I have just ignored this. Probably a sticky sensor in the tank. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:58:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: John <m3john@yahoo.com> > Subject: Funny behavior of gas gauge > > Lister, > > Have anyone have a problem like this before? > > After filling up my gas tank with key in hand and > securely capped off the gas tank, I drove away to > home. The next morning when I started the car, the > gas gauge was playing a little dancing game. It went > from full to empty (with empty light light up) while > the car is running. I drove off and it dance again > like that - full-empty-full. It happened about 5 > times during a 30 miles drive to and from work. The > next morning, everything else is fine. No more gauge > fluctuating, everything is solid. Is my gas gauge or > gas sensor about to go or is it bad gas? I've been > filling up the gas tank at this place on a normal > basis since I purchase the car new 3 years ago and > nothing since now. Please help. > > Thanks, > -John

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#8. AOL Instant Messenger - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:31:18 -0700 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> Subject: AOL Instant Messenger Has anyone else downloaded the AOL instant messenger software? You don't need to have an AOL account to use it, as I found out today. Would it be a good idea for the list members to swap screen names to talk about M3 stuff?

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#9. Re: [E36M3] AOL Instant Messenger - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:52:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] AOL Instant Messenger Where have you been? =) My AOL IM is "ekosan" Chester --- "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> wrote: > Has anyone else downloaded the AOL instant messenger software? You don't > need to have an AOL account to use it, as I found out today. Would it be a > good idea for the list members to swap screen names to talk about M3 stuff? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

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#10. AOL Instant Messenger - from Rob C Swift
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Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:31:24 -0400 From: "Rob C Swift" <RSwift@AVMTOnline.com> Subject: AOL Instant Messenger I like the idea, certainly not a replacement for the digest, but a more personal way to get to know some of the members on the side. My AOL name is "RobSwift" Rob Swift Manassas, Virginia '97 M3

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