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#1. RE: [E36M3] Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:32:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? > While I am at it, there are also pictures from our recent DE event at > Pocono: > http://216.35.67.131/pocono There will be some more pictures added > tomorrow night. You can see them without thumbnails here: > http://216.35.67.131/pocono/large <- the DCP ones aren't on the > thumbnail page. That's me.....#52!!!! Woo hoo! Whoever said that Yok AO32Rs are only slightly better than Michelin Pilot Sports has got to re-evaluate....could not touch cars with A032Rs, Kuhmos, Hoosiers, BFG R1s, etc in the twisties...but I held my own! I even passed this Vette with R1s many times...then again, I don't think he was all that quick around the track. Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
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#2. g-tech - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:43:04 -0400 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: g-tech > I was skeptical about the accuracy of the GTECH, since > the horsepower measurements were way off.. around 175 > hp at the wheels (1st gear). Ah... the G-tech. I've found that I got the most accurate horsepower measurements in 2nd gear. First gear is just over too quickly for the poor little things sampling rate or something like that. I get 230 at the rear wheels, same as my dyno chart using 3270 + 170 (me) My car does 0-60 in 5.1 and 13.9 1/4 miles on the g-tech. (dinan intake, exhaust, Si, flywheel, 235/40r17s all around on bbs RKs) (Corky's turbo) > admittedly isn't an expert on computer controls. This > isn't necessarily a bad thing since he's getting help. Heh. He ought to just package a TEC-II with his turbo kits. Who needs a stock ECU?! :) That way you could get rid of the MAF, and have full control of fueling and spark... just need to fab up and ship a crank trigger setup and some new sparkplug wires. Spacers: > Anyone know where I can buy a set of 10mm? Or anyone know > someone who would be interested in trading their 10mm > for my 15mm spacers? I found that there were no 10mm hubcentric spacers to be found. Plus, if you ever want to run 255s, you'll need the 15mm spacers. (or at least I did) -kit 97 m3/4 90 300zx tt (soon) 01 cbr-600 f4i (gone soon) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#3. Re: [E36M3] IM LIST So Far WAS:( AOL Instant Messenger) - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:47:54 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] IM LIST So Far WAS:( AOL Instant Messenger) :( Hey, where am I? ;) Feel free to add "ironjdl" to that list. Jonathan L. >From: "Rich" <rehrlich98m3@mindspring.com>. > > And so far, the E36M3 AIM list is: > Bad Bimr > KevinG321 > WayneWSN > OBDIIM3 > Elric42eod > KTrainman > RobSwift > RSHatrakII > Eko san > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#4. Re: WTB: 10mm spacers (or trade) - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:51:43 -0400 From: Vern Anderson <vanderson@cerebellumsoft.com> Subject: Re: WTB: 10mm spacers (or trade) Peter, I got mine from Steve D (www.ultimategarage.com). H&R doesn't make 10mm ones, and Steve imports them in. They are not as nice as the H&R's and are heavier, but still seem fine. They also have a hub-centering lip like the larger (15mm+) H&R ones, unlike the 5mm H&R's, which have no lip. Another important piece of data - if you use the 10mm spacers in the front you can use the longer bolts for the 15mm spacers without a problem. However, for use in the rear you have to cut/grind about 2mm off the bolts so they will clear the emergency brake shoes. Bolts for 5mm spacers are too short to use with the 10mm spacers (they only have about 4 turns into the hub), so I wouldn't recommend them. I have a set of 15mm spacers with a set of normal 15mm spacer bolts and I have the 10mm spacers with a set of bolts for a 15mm spacer that I trimmed for use in the rear. YMMV, but that was the situation with my car. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 -------------------- 11 -------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:01:23 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: WTB: 10mm spacers (or trade) I'm looking for a set of 10mm spacers for my '95 M3. I've been running H&R 15mm spacers to fit a set of 17x9's in the front for autocross tires, but I need something smaller for better fitment. Anyone know where I can buy a set of 10mm? Or anyone know someone who would be interested in trading their 10mm for my 15mm spacers? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. -peterg
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#5. Re: [E36M3] IM LIST So Far - from Phil
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:07:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Phil <estorilphil@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] IM LIST So Far And I'm "estorilphil" if anyone wants to talk (or complain) about cars (or nothing) :-) twisty M3 <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:47:54 -0700 From: "twisty M3" Subject: Re: [E36M3] IM LIST So Far WAS:( AOL Instant Messenger) :( Hey, where am I? ;) Feel free to add "ironjdl" to that list. Jonathan L. >From: "Rich" . > > And so far, the E36M3 AIM list is: > Bad Bimr > KevinG321 > WayneWSN > OBDIIM3 > Elric42eod > KTrainman > RobSwift > RSHatrakII > Eko san > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _____ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals <http://rd.yahoo.com/mktg/mail/txt/tagline/?http://personals.yahoo.com>
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? + more - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:06:16 -0400 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? + more This has been discussed on the list before and is a very opinionated topic. My opinion is that I really don't think that the sway bar tabs tearing has anything to do with high G cornering. It has to do with the car being modified with aftermarket suspension components that are not engineered to work together. By this I mean people are piecing together H&R springs, Bilsteins, and whatever swaybars. When this happens the geometry of the suspension is changed from the way BMW designed it. The tabs are made to work with the stock springs or a suspension that is similar. By similar I don't mean similar spring rates. I mean it keeps the springs and shocks doing most of the work and not the sway bars. When the sway bars are changed out with thicker, stiffer ones they start doing a lot more work. This puts more stress on the tabs. To fix this properly, add springs that are stiff enough to take the stress back out of these points. Now most people here don't want to do this as they think you have to add really stiff race springs. So if this is you then add the reinforcements. But if you are not scared to add stiff springs then you don't have to reinforce the tabs. What is too stiff? My LTW has a lot of track miles on it with no reinforcements and I have been running a mild 450#fr and 600#r spring rates. I know of others that are running 800#fr and 1200#r without reinforcements. If I can find the post from James Clay at Bimmerworld I will post it. But if I remember it correctly he said that most suspensions are designed with the springs and shocks first, then the sway bars are figured from there. But the sway bars are more of a help item and not a main part. Plus I do believe that he has practiced with his car without a rear bar. We will let him comment on that. To sum it up: Tabs breaking are not caused by high G cornering. It is caused by an improperly designed suspension being installed on the car. The tabs break because the new suspension lets the sway bar do too much of the work instead of the springs and shocks. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com > -----Original Message----- > From: nabli@attglobal.net [mailto:nabli@attglobal.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:19 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? + more > > > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:16:27 -0400 > From: nabli@attglobal.net > Subject: Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? + more > > For the most part if you're just adding sway bars then you are probably ok > with the stock setup. > > If however, you plan to add track tires and other suspension mods such as > springs etc... then you should definitely have them reinforced. > > The more g-forces the more likely it is that you will have a problem with > the tabs. > > This past weekend, at Pocono, I had the opportunity to try several > different cars on a couple of runs. Wayne Miller was nice enough > to let me > take a run (or spin) with his car. He has camber plates, Khumos, UUC sway > bars, euro springs and aftermarket (Koni i think) shocks. Now i > see why he > ended up bending and/or ripping his rear sway bar tabs at Summit. > Compared > to my car, which is basically stock except for Eibach sway bars, hi car > handles extremely well and to a different degree. Hence, the > g-forces were > much higher than in my car. Take it for what it's worth. > > On a side note, I also had the opportunity run an AA turbo stage > II car. A > HELL of a lot of power to say the least. Can easily out accelerate an E46 > M3 - which was tested of course but I was not there. I believe he has > Konis and some aftermarket springs, stock sway bars, and 18s with S-03s. > > This car was scary to drive!!! Did not feel well balanced at all! > > Moral of the story: > > Given the few recent posts about turbos etc..., i HIGHLY > recommend that you > take into account your suspension AND tires. > > This car should have had a much better suspension to match that > power/torque and most of all a set of track tires. > > Don't forget the rest of the car! > > BTW, he had the new pf-97s so the braking was fine for the most part. > > Cheers, > Jim E. > > Jason Sarich wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:50:25 -0700 > > From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> > > Subject: Swaybar Tab reinforcement on 99 M3? > > > > Hello, > > > > I recall someone stating that it was not necessary to weld > > reinforcement kits on 99 M3's (for installing bigger sway > > bars) because BMW recognized the weak construction on prior > > years. Is this true? > > > > I have a 99, that I am thinking of putting sways on, but > > want to make sure before I get into the install. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jason > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#7. spacers - from Scott Yu
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:24:45 -0700 From: "Scott Yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: spacers Peter, I can definitely recommend Auto Technic (860 350 8407) for spacers, their prices are good and service is great. They don't have the best prices on everything, but spacer pricing is all good. scott > Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:01:23 US/Pacific > From: peter@guagenti.com > Subject: WTB: 10mm spacers (or trade) > > I'm looking for a set of 10mm spacers for my '95 M3. I've been running H&R > 15mm spacers to fit a set of 17x9's in the front for autocross tires, but I > need something smaller for better fitment. > > Anyone know where I can buy a set of 10mm? Or anyone know someone who would be > interested in trading their 10mm for my 15mm spacers? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks. > > -peterg
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#8. A032R Pressures? - from Drew Bamford
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:34:47 From: "Drew Bamford" <drewbam@hotmail.com> Subject: A032R Pressures? I'm pretty sure that I've seen this topic before, but I couldn't find it in the archives, so: What's do the track junkies recommend for cold tire pressures with 235/40-17 A032R's at all four corners? It's been almost 2 years since my Yok's have been out of the closet for a track day, and I'm heading up to Thunderhill this weekend for some fun with the Shelby club. I seem to remember running them at either significantly higher or lower pressure than the stock street setup, but I can't remember which. Do I want around 32# or 40#? Can't wait to hit the track again. drew | '98 M3 Limo, stock suspension, eagerly awaiting it's weekend IFG's and A032's _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#9. E36 M3 Factory Alignment Specs - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:49:40 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: E36 M3 Factory Alignment Specs Subject header asks it all, what are the alignment specs for a '97 M3, including camber, toe-in etc. Many thanks, Justin
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#10. Sustained high speeds - from Reid Conti
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Sustained high speeds I plan on taking trip of about 1500 miles in the near future, where I won't have to worry about my speed too much. So I'm wondering, what should I hold my speed to? I imagine it would be bad to keep the engine at, say, 6000rpm for a long time, but what's a safe engine speed here? Is it really hard on the engine to run at 5000rpm for a long time, versus say 3000rpm? Or should it really not impact engine life if the car's in good shape? I plan to have my fluids changed, newish tires, monitor my tire pressues, coolant level/temp, oil level, get my water pump swapped for one with a metal impeller, thermostat changed out.. Anything else I should watch out for? Or is this just not a good idea in general? I'm thinking I probably wouldn't cruise faster than 120 or so.. thanks for any advice.. this is on a 95 (S50 engine). - reid